Hilarious! Republicans are saying Democrats won't work with them hoping to spread the blame

[koshergrl]

It was working a helluva lot better than the ACA....

No it wasn't. Just bankruptcies from medical costs alone has been cut nearly in half thanks to the ACA:

another non sequitur

 

[Reasonable]

You know so little it's mind boggling.
Chuck Schumer stated he'd love to work on a HC bill if they took the total repeal of Obamacare off the table.

Was that before or after he said Democrats were 100% committed to obstructing everything the GOP and Trump wanted to do.

And again, Democrats LOST - they are NOT the majority - they don't get to demand / set conditions that MUST be followed, as if they still were the majority anywhere.

Democrats had their chance running everything. You failed - the ACA has failed. You / the DNC has been rejected. Another agenda / set of ideas was embraced. You don't get to demand the people's voice / desires get ignored - again - in favor of what Democrats want.

Wake up and smell reality.

Congress is supposed to work together for the good of all Americans. Somewhere along the line ( between 2009-2016) you boneheads lost track of that.

 

[koshergrl]

No, that wasn't what I said at all.
Can you read?

I'm trying to figure out why you oppose it. If it didn't affect you personally, then what do you care?

I oppose it because it's unconstitutional and non workable.

I am not an idiot like you who only thinks in terms of how they affect me in the here and now. I can actually entertain ideas and concepts that may or may not have an immediate, discernible physical affect on me at this moment.

 

[koshergrl]

"It's all the Republicans' fault that Obamacare is the worst thing that has ever happened to our country, bar none!"

When are they going to offer us something better?

when is anyone going to offer us something better than the crap that is out there?...

Why should they have to?

 

[Reasonable]

It was working a helluva lot better than the ACA....

No it wasn't. Just bankruptcies from medical costs alone has been cut nearly in half thanks to the ACA:

Stop confusing Easy with facts. It will totally shake up his entire body.

 

[kwc57]

This is the fundamental problem.

Democrats worked hard to get healthcare for as many Americans as possible. Republicans managed to make it something evil at the time, but now that people's children, wives, husbands and elderly parents are being taken care of, many Republicans have decided they like it.

So how do they negotiate? On one side you have Republicans who have no problem with millions of poor and middle class suffering and dying. On the other hand, you have Democrats trying to protect the same millions. Where is the common ground?

How's the weather in your private "Fiction Land?"

Don't you mean planet Bizarro?

 

[Thinker101]

This is the fundamental problem.

Democrats worked hard to get healthcare for as many Americans as possible. Republicans managed to make it something evil at the time, but now that people's children, wives, husbands and elderly parents are being taken care of, many Republicans have decided they like it.

So how do they negotiate? On one side you have Republicans who have no problem with millions of poor and middle class suffering and dying. On the other hand, you have Democrats trying to protect the same millions. Where is the common ground?

WTF, have you been asleep for the last couple of years. Do you know how much rates for obamacare have increased, do you have a fricken clue as to how many insurance companies have dropped out of certain areas. Do you have a clue as to the proposed rate increases under obamacare. You clowns need to check your definition of successful.

 

[blackhawk]

You really got to love that selective memory Obamacare which turned out to be the disaster its critics said it would be was passed without a single Republican vote and because of that Democrats on every level have been paying the price ever since. Trying to get some bipartisan support and not repeating the mistake the Democrats made is a smart thing to do.

 

[The Derp]

You have a learning disability, don't you?

No, it seems you do. And on top of that learning disability is your rotten attitude. You make wild claims, cannot back them up, then lash out at anyone who dares challenge them. Get over yourself.

Yes, Obamacare is terrible.

Not really. You think it is, but you can't really explain why without exercising sophistry or invoking unverifiable personal anecdotes that you make to lend your argument credibility it doesn't otherwise have.

No, we don't *have* to replace it. We can just wait for it to implode, as it is right now.

If it hasn't imploded in 7 years, it's not going to. And you all campaigned on "repeal and replace". Trump guaranteed universal coverage with lower premiums. That is what he and the Conservatives ran on. Now, the realities of those promises are coming to fruition and it's not pretty. Conservatives are quickly learning that you cannot reform an insurance market to lower costs without mandates while also providing universal coverage. So you'd be going back on one of the big promises Trump made; that everyone would be covered.

We didn't want it in the first place, why would we agree to just make another version of it? However, Dems have made it impossible to remove it, so we will just let it die. The end result will be preferable to the endless morass of trying to legislate it into something acceptable.

Conservatives have no idea what kind of health care and/or insurance system they want. All they know is what they don't want, and that is informed by lies, bias, and deception. That's why, after 7 years, they couldn't produce anything viable. Because Conservatives are all talk, no action. A bunch of poseurs and posturing fools.

It was unworkable, unconstitutional, unAmerican. It has changed the fabric of our society and not in a good way, and it has bankrupted us besides. It is economically unsound, so it's just a matter of stepping back and allowing the collapse.

How did it change "the fabric of society". Talk about hyperbole and melodrama! Also, SCOTUS ruled it was Constitutional, so I think you're just flaming.

 

[koshergrl]

This is the fundamental problem.

Democrats worked hard to get healthcare for as many Americans as possible. Republicans managed to make it something evil at the time, but now that people's children, wives, husbands and elderly parents are being taken care of, many Republicans have decided they like it.

So how do they negotiate? On one side you have Republicans who have no problem with millions of poor and middle class suffering and dying. On the other hand, you have Democrats trying to protect the same millions. Where is the common ground?

WTF, have you been asleep for the last couple of years. Do you know how much rates for obamacare have increased, do you have a fricken clue as to how many insurance companies have dropped out of certain areas. Do you have a clue as to the proposed rate increases under obamacare. You clowns need to check your definition of successful.

deandre is just another lying piece of shit without honor or intelligence.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans know Democrats will not support them. The GOP wrote the playbook on ruling as a minority, Dems are just following their example

Trump called all the GOP Senators to the White House yesterday in an attempt to muscle them into supporting Trumpcare. They told him to go fuck himself. Republicans can't even build a coalition with their own members....why would they expect Dems to join?

so in the mean time, those with this obamacare may suffer, while these assholes play ping pong....

What do you mean suffer?

Are those benefitting from expanded Medicaid suffering?
How about those under 26 who can use their parents policy?
How about those with pre-existing conditions who pay the same rate as everyone else?

 

[koshergrl]

"It's all the Republicans' fault that Obamacare is the worst thing that has ever happened to our country, bar none!"

Obamacare is far from the worst thing to happen to the country. In fact, it is a good thing because it resulted in 24,000,000 more people getting health insurance coverage who previously didn't have it. It also extended the solvency of Medicare's Trust by a dozen years, and eliminated pre-existing conditions.

Is that worse than a financial collapse caused by trickle-down, deregulatory, right-wing economic policies? No. Is that worse than Bush the Dumber letting al Qaeda fly planes into the Twin Towers? No. Is it worse than the Iraq War? No. Is it worse than the Great Depression, the Civil War, Jim Crow, or segregation? No. Is it worse than Pearl Harbor? No. Is it worse than the War of 1812? No. Is it worse than genocide against Native Americans? No. Is it worse than slavery? No.

So let's forego the melodrama.

Every single thing you wrote there is a lie, but that's okay, we don't expect anythign else.

 

[The Derp]

The king of non sequitur.

You guys said they were suffering, I asked how? You can't really come up with an answer because there isn't one.

 

[rightwinger]

You know so little it's mind boggling.
Chuck Schumer stated he'd love to work on a HC bill if they took the total repeal of Obamacare off the table.

Was that before or after he said Democrats were 100% committed to obstructing everything the GOP and Trump wanted to do.

And again, Democrats LOST - they are NOT the majority - they don't get to demand / set conditions that MUST be followed, as if they still were the majority anywhere.

Democrats had their chance running everything. You failed - the ACA has failed. You / the DNC has been rejected. Another agenda / set of ideas was embraced. You don't get to demand the people's voice / desires get ignored - again - in favor of what Democrats want.

Wake up and smell reality.

Republicans WON

Why can't they get anything done? They don't need the Democrats to pass legislation. Why haven't they passed anything meaningful in six months?

 

[The Derp]

Do you know how much rates for obamacare have increased,

They have increased at rates the same as, or less than what the rate increases were like pre-ACA. Also, pre-ACA there were no subsidies to help defray the cost. That's why nearly 50,000,000 people had no insurance before the ACA, and why 60% of all bankruptcies were medical-related.

do you have a fricken clue as to how many insurance companies have dropped out of certain areas. Do you have a clue as to the proposed rate increases under obamacare. You clowns need to check your definition of successful.

Some of the insurance company pull-outs have not been on the up-and-up, with insurance companies lying about why they leave the exchanges. What Obamacare does really well is show that you cannot maintain insurance company profits, and provide universal coverage. The two are in direct conflict with one another. Also, we are talking about insurance, which is how health care is paid, not health care delivery. Delivery is what is important. Do you care who reimburses your provider for your care? All you care about is that your provider is reimbursed. What does it matter who does that reimbursing?

 

[easyt65]

Why can't they get anything done? They don't need the Democrats to pass legislation. Why haven't they passed anything meaningful in six months?

WHY are Democrats childishly throwing a tantrum, 'taking their ball' and refusing to 'play' because they are not getting their way?

 

[kwc57]

Republicans know Democrats will not support them. The GOP wrote the playbook on ruling as a minority, Dems are just following their example

Trump called all the GOP Senators to the White House yesterday in an attempt to muscle them into supporting Trumpcare. They told him to go fuck himself. Republicans can't even build a coalition with their own members....why would they expect Dems to join?

"Ruling as a minority." Uh huh, sure......they ruled with Harry Reid personally sitting on over 350 bills for 2 years. He was a dictator that single handedly brought Congress to a screeching halt. Of course he showed his shriveled little face on TV each day blaming the Republicans for obstruction and the media parroted what he said. The truth is out there, Reid ruled and no one else. He held the key to bills being heard, debated and voted on and he didn't allow it. So the Republicans "ruling as a minority" is comic fiction.

"Trumpcare". You can try to hang the new healthcare on him like Obamacare was hung on Obama, but it won't work. Trump isn't pushing anything in particular like Barack was. All he is doing is calling the leadership in and telling them to get off their collective asses and grow a set of balls. The healthcare bill belongs to Congress, not him.

 

[The Derp]

Every single thing you wrote there is a lie, but that's okay, we don't expect anythign else.

No, I think you were embarrassed by me attacking your hyperbole, and you're too lazy to bother to counter anything I wrote.

 

[bendog]

Yeah, why won't these disengenous dems get behind repealing Obamacare. They're so dishonest.

 

[bendog]

Republicans know Democrats will not support them. The GOP wrote the playbook on ruling as a minority, Dems are just following their example

Trump called all the GOP Senators to the White House yesterday in an attempt to muscle them into supporting Trumpcare. They told him to go fuck himself. Republicans can't even build a coalition with their own members....why would they expect Dems to join?

"Ruling as a minority." Uh huh, sure......they ruled with Harry Reid personally sitting on over 350 bills for 2 years. He was a dictator that single handedly brought Congress to a screeching halt. Of course he showed his shriveled little face on TV each day blaming the Republicans for obstruction and the media parroted what he said. The truth is out there, Reid ruled and no one else. He held the key to bills being heard, debated and voted on and he didn't allow it. So the Republicans "ruling as a minority" is comic fiction.

"Trumpcare". You can try to hang the new healthcare on him like Obamacare was hung on Obama, but it won't work. Trump isn't pushing anything in particular like Barack was. All he is doing is calling the leadership in and telling them to get off their collective asses and grow a set of balls. The healthcare bill belongs to Congress, not him.

Well I agree Orange Don doesn't give a shit what's in the bills.