Highest/lowest firearm homicide rates: Why the difference?

[M14 Shooter]

Per the CDC,
Firearm homicide rates. 2021

Stats of the States - Homicide Mortality

www.cdc.gov

8 of the 10 states with the lowest firearm homicide rates have pro-gun laws
8 of the 10 states with the highest firearm homicide rates have pro-gun laws
The remaining 2 of 10.... do not.

NH VT ME ID UT WY IA and ND have, for all intents and purposes, the same gun laws as SC AL LA MS AR TN NM and MO
MA and HI, for all intents and purposes, have the same gun laws as MD and IL

Given this equality...
Why do you think the firearm-related rates in the 10 highest states are 3-20x higher than the 10 lowest states?

Note: The CDC chart reports a rate of 0 for the lowest three states - this is a function of their sampling (See: "suppressed")
The rate shown below are computed from the actual number of firearm homicides v population

Rank	State	Rate	Actual deaths
1	New Hampshire	0.8	11
2	Vermont	1.1	7
3	Maine	1.2	14
4	Idaho	1.5	29
5	Massachusetts	1.6	112
6	Hawaii	1.9	27
7	Utah	1.9	64
8	Wyoming	1.9	11
9	Iowa	2.2	66
10	North Dakota	2.4	17
41	Arkansas	8.2	235
42	Maryland	8.5	496
43	Tennessee	8.5	567
44	Illinois	8.6	1041
45	Missouri	8.7	501
46	South Carolina	9.4	459
47	New Mexico	10.7	214
48	Alabama	11.1	524
49	Louisiana	14.9	660
50	Mississippi	16.6	459

 

[hadit]

Per the CDC,
Firearm homicide rates. 2021

Stats of the States - Homicide Mortality

www.cdc.gov

8 of the 10 states with the lowest firearm homicide rates have pro-gun laws
8 of the 10 states with the highest firearm homicide rates have pro-gun laws
The remaining 2 of 10.... do not.

NH VT ME ID UT WY IA and ND have, for all intents and purposes, the same gun laws as SC AL LA MS AR TN NM and MO
MA and HI, for all intents and purposes, have the same gun laws as MD and IL

Given this equality...
Why do you think the firearm-related rates in the 10 highest states are 3-20x higher than the 10 lowest states?

Note: The CDC chart reports a rate of 0 for the lowest three states - this is a function of their sampling (See: "suppressed")
The rate shown below are computed from the actual number of firearm homicides v population

Rank	State	Rate	Actual deaths
1	New Hampshire	0.8	11
2	Vermont	1.1	7
3	Maine	1.2	14
4	Idaho	1.5	29
5	Massachusetts	1.6	112
6	Hawaii	1.9	27
7	Utah	1.9	64
8	Wyoming	1.9	11
9	Iowa	2.2	66
10	North Dakota	2.4	17
41	Arkansas	8.2	235
42	Maryland	8.5	496
43	Tennessee	8.5	567
44	Illinois	8.6	1041
45	Missouri	8.7	501
46	South Carolina	9.4	459
47	New Mexico	10.7	214
48	Alabama	11.1	524
49	Louisiana	14.9	660
50	Mississippi	16.6	459

You're not supposed to notice inconvenient things like this.

 

[jwoodie]

Do those stats include homicides that are bargained down or dismissed by left-wing DAs?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do those stats include homicides that are bargained down or dismissed by left-wing DAs?

Homicide is not necessarily a crime.
The CDC does not differentiate between manslaughter or murder 2 or whatever.

 

[Bell Huey]

Per the CDC,
Firearm homicide rates. 2021

Stats of the States - Homicide Mortality

www.cdc.gov

8 of the 10 states with the lowest firearm homicide rates have pro-gun laws
8 of the 10 states with the highest firearm homicide rates have pro-gun laws
The remaining 2 of 10.... do not.

NH VT ME ID UT WY IA and ND have, for all intents and purposes, the same gun laws as SC AL LA MS AR TN NM and MO
MA and HI, for all intents and purposes, have the same gun laws as MD and IL

Given this equality...
Why do you think the firearm-related rates in the 10 highest states are 3-20x higher than the 10 lowest states?

Note: The CDC chart reports a rate of 0 for the lowest three states - this is a function of their sampling (See: "suppressed")
The rate shown below are computed from the actual number of firearm homicides v population

Rank	State	Rate	Actual deaths
1	New Hampshire	0.8	11
2	Vermont	1.1	7
3	Maine	1.2	14
4	Idaho	1.5	29
5	Massachusetts	1.6	112
6	Hawaii	1.9	27
7	Utah	1.9	64
8	Wyoming	1.9	11
9	Iowa	2.2	66
10	North Dakota	2.4	17
41	Arkansas	8.2	235
42	Maryland	8.5	496
43	Tennessee	8.5	567
44	Illinois	8.6	1041
45	Missouri	8.7	501
46	South Carolina	9.4	459
47	New Mexico	10.7	214
48	Alabama	11.1	524
49	Louisiana	14.9	660
50	Mississippi	16.6	459

Why do you think the firearm-related rates in the 10 highest states are 3-20x higher than the 10 lowest states?

I'll go with the urban areas, run by democrats, are pushing the numbers upward.

 

[Blues Man]

Homicide is not necessarily a crime.
The CDC does not differentiate between manslaughter or murder 2 or whatever.

Any criminal homicide is counted in murder stats.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Any criminal homicide is counted in murder stats.

Right. But this is homicide.
A large majority of homicides are some sort of criminal act, but not all.

 

[Blues Man]

Right. But this is homicide.
A large majority of homicides are some sort of criminal act, but not all.

Yup it's the old all murders are homicides but not all homicides are murders thing