HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into “voucher program"

[teapartysamurai]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

 

[rdean]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

From your article:

The administration has accepted applications from 18 states to participate in the program, which would give states money to purchase managed-care plans for people who are either disabled or poor enough to qualify for both Medicare and Medicaid. HHS approved the first state plan, one for Massachusetts, last month.

Ryan's plan would be to give seniors a limited amount and tell them to go find their own health care.

 

[rdean]

Besides, what do right wingers care about a bunch of old people anyway. We know they don't care about the middle class and we know they hate the poor. So for them to attack a plan where they think people get less help doesn't make sense. Remember "let him die"? Remember "Feed the poor and they will breed"?

 

[Full-Auto]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

Once again we see just how two faced the low life democrats truly are.....

Thanks for the post.

 

[EriktheRed]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

From your article:

The administration has accepted applications from 18 states to participate in the program, which would give states money to purchase managed-care plans for people who are either disabled or poor enough to qualify for both Medicare and Medicaid. HHS approved the first state plan, one for Massachusetts, last month.

Ryan's plan would be to give seniors a limited amount and tell them to go find their own health care.

IOW....

Btw, Sammy, how are things in Ohio lately?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Besides, what do right wingers care about a bunch of old people anyway. We know they don't care about the middle class and we know they hate the poor. So for them to attack a plan where they think people get less help doesn't make sense. Remember "let him die"? Remember "Feed the poor and they will breed"?

we care enough not to have death panels and tell them to take a pain pill.....now that is compassion

 

[Greenbeard]

I assume "voucher" is in quotation marks because it's being used ironically here.

Or because the author meant to (but apparently forget to) look it up before posting this silly article.

 

[francoHFW]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZPubcrappe as ALWAYS! Pub dupes...

 

[francoHFW]

Death Panels my azz! And of course insurers are 10x as bad NOW than "end of life counseling", which would leave it up to doctors and families, MORON Pub dupes.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

I actually saw it yesterday. Surprisingly enough, everyone pretended it didn't say anything about vouchers.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/245573-obama-evolves-on-vouchers.html

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

From your article:

The administration has accepted applications from 18 states to participate in the program, which would give states money to purchase managed-care plans for people who are either disabled or poor enough to qualify for both Medicare and Medicaid. HHS approved the first state plan, one for Massachusetts, last month.

Ryan's plan would be to give seniors a limited amount and tell them to go find their own health care.

Didn't Obama say he would never put seniors on vouchers on Thursday? Does it bother you that he already put them on vouchers?

 

[francoHFW]

BS, dupe

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I assume "voucher" is in quotation marks because it's being used ironically here.

Or because the author meant to (but apparently forget to) look it up before posting this silly article.

Kinda like the way you failed to look it up before describing Ryan's plan as a voucher system? Do you get a different set of rules than Republicans?

 

[Katzndogz]

They are doing it just to show what a designed failure looks like. Romney never said that seniors today would be put on a voucher program but that younger people would be given a choice as to whether to participate in a voucher program if they wanted to.

 

[mudwhistle]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

Yup....the idiots on the left have decided to demonize vouchers....because they take money out of the pockets of.........Democrats.

A voucher system takes money away from Congress so they can't touch it. That's why they're so against it. They demonized it just like they did spending-cuts. Calling it terrorism.

 

[Salt Jones]

They are doing it just to show what a designed failure looks like. Romney never said that seniors today would be put on a voucher program but that younger people would be given a choice as to whether to participate in a voucher program if they wanted to.

What if they don't "want" to? Will they get to stay on the current system?

 

[Greenbeard]

Medicaid managed care is not new (the majority of Medicaid enrollees are in managed care plans), nor is it a voucher. Capitation doesn't put Medicaid enrollees at risk, as the Medicaid program pays for all Medicaid-covered benefits.

Voucher programs ala Romney-Ryan, on the other hand, are designed to put enrollees at risk precisely because screwing over enrollees is cheaper for the government. That's why people don't want to voucherize the public health insurance plans; instead of guaranteeing access to the benefits to which they're (until Romney-Ryan take power) entitled by law, they offer you some cash and wish you good luck in finding a health insurer offering a plan that meets your needs.

Medicaid managed care offers Medicaid beneficiaries all the benefits to which they're entitled and the Medicaid agency retains financial responsibility for those benefits, they just allow competing private plans to administer them under contract with the Medicaid program. Medicaid beneficiaries in managed care states (which is virtually all of them now) are not left out in the cold, nor are they asked to pay more because the Medicaid program feels like paying for less.

Or put more simply: vouchers are Romney-Ryan's way of getting the federal government out of its Medicare responsibilities, at the expense of seniors; Medicaid managed care is not an attempt by state Medicaid agencies to get out of their obligations to Medicaid beneficiaries.

 

[candycorn]

I assume "voucher" is in quotation marks because it's being used ironically here.

Or because the author meant to (but apparently forget to) look it up before posting this silly article.

It's pretty easy to just assume everything new thread the republicans start is a lie because it's usually the case. This is no exception.

 

[Darkwind]

I know that every campaign promise Barack Obama makes has an expiration date … but this is ridiculous. The confetti is barely off the floor at the Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina after Obama’s acceptance speech, and already we find out that he’s flip-flopped. Remember this part of the speech, in which he attacks the Paul Ryan plan to apply free-market reform and cost controls to Medicare?

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

From your article:

The administration has accepted applications from 18 states to participate in the program, which would give states money to purchase managed-care plans for people who are either disabled or poor enough to qualify for both Medicare and Medicaid. HHS approved the first state plan, one for Massachusetts, last month.

Ryan's plan would be to give seniors a limited amount and tell them to go find their own health care.

Liar.

Ryan's plan would give them the exact amount of benefit they receive from medicare.

 

[EriktheRed]

Surprise! HHS pilot program to send 2 million poor seniors from Medicare into … “voucher” programs « Hot Air

Should this surprise anyone?

November is coming!

From your article:

The administration has accepted applications from 18 states to participate in the program, which would give states money to purchase managed-care plans for people who are either disabled or poor enough to qualify for both Medicare and Medicaid. HHS approved the first state plan, one for Massachusetts, last month.

Ryan's plan would be to give seniors a limited amount and tell them to go find their own health care.

Liar.

Ryan's plan would give them the exact amount of benefit they receive from medicare.

Funny, Ryan and his squawking heads don't seem to be making that argument themselves. You got anything to back that up?