Hey Steelers???

Some members might be interested in this opportunity...
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The ClayTaurus said:
Some members might be interested in this opportunity...
whiners_club.giff


That's ironic, coming from you. You've been whining about honest complaints about shitty officiating for the past couple days. ;)
 
dmp said:
That's ironic, coming from you. You've been whining about honest complaints about shitty officiating for the past couple days. ;)
If anything, it's hypocritical, maybe. Doesn't mean it's not true ;)
 
Here's the avatar some of you need.

http://www.ivu.org/news/3-98/breast.jpg

Bunch of damn Democrats.

If you want to bitch, bitch to the NFL. Insist they make the rules more like they were 20 and 25 years ago. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Complaining that the refs are calling a game in week 21 the same as they would in week 1 is bullshit.

"But it's the SUPERBOWL!". Yeah, it's the Superbowl, so the rules should change? Geez, there's another idea for a new thread.

You know, it's not even so much that there's bitching as much as the fact that the Steelers aren't getting the credit they deserve. As for taking off the Steeler helmet, I'm a Cowboys fan.
 
Jimmyeatworld said:
Here's the avatar some of you need.

http://www.ivu.org/news/3-98/breast.jpg

Bunch of damn Democrats.

If you want to bitch, bitch to the NFL. Insist they make the rules more like they were 20 and 25 years ago. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Complaining that the refs are calling a game in week 21 the same as they would in week 1 is bullshit.

"But it's the SUPERBOWL!". Yeah, it's the Superbowl, so the rules should change? Geez, there's another idea for a new thread.

You know, it's not even so much that there's bitching as much as the fact that the Steelers aren't getting the credit they deserve. As for taking off the Steeler helmet, I'm a Cowboys fan.

Steelers beat the top 3 seeds, on the road, and overcame shitty officiating against Indy. Crazy playoff run.
 
Jimmyeatworld said:
"But it's the SUPERBOWL!". Yeah, it's the Superbowl, so the rules should change? Geez, there's another idea for a new thread.



Exactly - Whey would the Officials call the superbowl different than, say, week 8 games? They did because they lack good judgement.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
Steelers beat the top 3 seeds, on the road, and overcame shitty officiating against Indy. Crazy playoff run.

It was a great run. The so called "experts", as well as a lot regular fans, had pretty much engraved Indianapolis Colts on the Lombardi Trophy before the playoffs even started. I have to admit, I didn't think the Steelers would make it either.
 
Jimmyeatworld said:
Hmmm. Taking my words out of context and changing their meaning. Seems familiar....

I took nothing out of context - you actually hit the nail on the head. Why would the ref's call such pissy chicken-shit 'holds' in the SB, and NOT during the regular season? Why the sudden change to 'candy-ass' football?
 
dmp said:
I took nothing out of context - you actually hit the nail on the head. Why would the ref's call such pissy chicken-shit 'holds' in the SB, and NOT during the regular season? Why the sudden change to 'candy-ass' football?

Primary reason for a penalty to be called in an game is so one player doesn't gain an unfair advantage over another.

Show me where, on ANY of the BS calls, that a player gained an unfair advantage.
 
Seahawks fans promise to stop being paranoid just as soon as the NFL proves it isn't out to get them.

:)

More:

Tuesday, February 7, 2006

Refs made it an 'Extra Lame' bowl

By TED MILLER
P-I REPORTER

GOT SCREWED, USA -- Complaining about officiating is a time-honored sports tradition. It's much easier to believe your team got screwed than it got whupped because anger is more manageable than sadness.

It's sour grapes, plain and simple.

But, America, please forgive Seahawks fans if they sound a little bitter and paranoid after the rest of the country got its sweet, little fairy tale with Jerome Bettis winning Super Bowl XL in his hometown of Detroit.

It just seems a bit too tidy, considering how things went down.

Here's the rub: No intelligent person, and that includes Pittsburgh fans, watched the Steelers 21-10 "victory" and believed it was well-officiated. Period.

And every -- EVERY -- call went against the Seahawks.

Seahawks fans promise to stop being paranoid just as soon as the NFL proves it isn't out to get them.

The Seahawks, who were tied for second-fewest penalties in the NFL this year, were flagged seven times for 70 yards. Three were critical. Two were dubious. Another flag was so stupid the official explanation didn't actually make any sense.

As for head linesman Mark Hittner's oh-what-the-hell delayed touchdown call on Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's 1-yard touchdown dive? Think the officials want that tape taken to the FBI crime lab?


The Steelers, who were tied for sixth-fewest penalties this year, suffered just three horrible hankies for 20 yards. Two were false starts on their first possession. The third was offensive pass interference on rookie tight end Heath Miller deep in Seattle territory in the second quarter. That call will inspire no wringing of hands, even from Miller.

Thereafter, apparently, the Steelers felt guilty and decided not to break the rules for the next 35 minutes. Jerome probably wanted it that way.

Apoplectic Seahawks fans are not alone. ESPN.com's Michael Smith pointed this out Monday in a story ripping the officials: "The Seahawks lost 161 yards to penalties when you combine the penalty yards (70) and the plays the flags wiped out (91). By halftime alone, when it trailed 7-3, Seattle had had 73 hard-earned yards and a touchdown eliminated."

Let's rewind.

Matt Hasselbeck hits Darrell Jackson for a 16-yard touchdown pass for a 7-zip lead?

Nope. The incidental contact that occurs on nearly every NFL passing play was, actually, offensive interference -- at least the officials decided so after safety Chris Hope stomped and huffed and demanded a flag, perhaps insisting that Jerome wanted it that way.

Beleaguered tight end Jerramy Stevens makes a spectacular catch inside the Steelers 2-yard line setting up what surely would have been a Shaun Alexander touchdown run and 17-14 Seahawks lead early in the fourth quarter?

Nope. Seems that offensive tackle Sean Locklear's incidental hooking (which occurs on nearly every NFL play from scrimmage) on his block of Clark Haggans (who was offside) was too dastardly to ignore.

Maybe the officials were calling the game tightly.

Nope. Only two plays later, Steelers linebacker Joey Porter used an illegal "horse collar" tackle on Alexander, and the officials decided to let it slide, even though that would have transformed a third-and-18 on the Steelers 34 to a first down on their 19.

"Penalties, as much as anything, were the story of the game," Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren said. "That's unfortunate. And that might be the first time I've said that in my life."

Here's the comic relief.

After the no-call on the horse collar, Hasselbeck tossed a critical interception to cornerback Ike Taylor. Hasselbeck then, apparently, forgot which team he plays for and tried to throw a block in order to spring Taylor. Only he threw a "low block," according to the game's official book.

So not only does he toss a pick and then try to block for an opposing player, but he also gets called for a 15-yard penalty.

Most folks would figure that Hasselbeck was trying to TACKLE Taylor. Seeing Hasselbeck is a quarterback lacking tackling skills, he went low. But the officials decided it was a block. Only Hasselbeck was credited with a tackle on the play.

(The official explanation is he went low on a guy trying to block him, which is against the rules on a change of possession. But the fact that he made the tackle erases, at least for a reasonable person, his potential motivation based on the result. It was a tackle.)

Like we said: Stupid.

Steelers fans should be angry, too. For one, they know how this feels, see their playoff game vs. Indianapolis, when they were the interlopers ruining the heartwarming tale.

Moreover, the execrable officiating cheapens their championship because it's what folks are talking about now, not the glory of Bettis.

Is all this an accusation -- J'Accuse! -- like Porter's ranting about the terrible officiating in the Indianapolis game?

Yes. No. Who knows?

It's just too bad -- for everyone -- that the officials made sure Super Bowl XL wasn't "Extra Large," as the joke went, but "Extremely Lame."
P-I reporter Ted Miller can be reached at 206-448-8017 or [email protected].
 
Complaining about officiating is a time-honored sports tradition. It's much easier to believe your team got screwed than it got whupped because anger is more manageable than sadness.
...but in our case, it's not true, because we're special. Everyone else whines because they're coping; we whine because we're truth-seers.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
...but in our case, it's not true, because we're special. Everyone else whines because they're coping; we whine because we're truth-seers.


This is what you are doing:

"I know seattle got screwed, but I'm affraid to get upset about it, cuz 'my' favourite team won. I'll just dismiss your very honest and accurate complaints and say you are whining."
 
dmp said:
This is what you are doing:

"I know seattle got screwed, but I'm affraid to get upset about it, cuz 'my' favourite team won. I'll just dismiss your very honest and accurate complaints and say you are whining."

I wonder what all the talk would be about had the Steelers lost because of ...."dubious" officiating.
 
dmp said:
This is what you are doing:

"I know seattle got screwed, but I'm affraid to get upset about it, cuz 'my' favourite team won. I'll just dismiss your very honest and accurate complaints and say you are whining."

No. That's what you're interpretting, because you think you're special for having been screwed by officials. ;) And my favorite team didn't win; they didn't even make the playoffs :(

That guys' article says "look I know everyone whines after they lose, but we're different. We're special." It's garbage. You're not special, you were on the short end of a couple calls. The PI was legit, and has been called all year both ways. You don't like that rule; fine. It's been called all year. The hasslebeck block was garbage, but didn't really affect much - your D still fell for the same trick play that pittsburg ran twice already in the playoffs. The refs didn't throw hasslebeck's interception after the holding penalty. If he was as good as you think he is, he takes that penalty and scores ANYWAYS. He can drive from the 2 yard line but can't punch it in at 1st and 20?

Look, you can continue your pity party, I'll leave you alone. As a Lions fan, I've reached the complete bottom of the NFL barrel, so I've heard it all before. Congrats on getting to the superbowl; sorry it didn't work out for you. :beer:
 

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