Hey Libs!

[kaz]

Why is it that after WWII these guys helped their country pay off a war and NOW these corps are NOT helping us pay off the war on terror that Bush waged?

Lets remember the 50s were post war years and everything boomed.

We need to get them to help us pay so we can all boom again.


We are not broke we are just not charging all the customers the right price for their services.

Time for corporate America to pay their faire share again.

I'm going to repeat this until you start addressing it.

SPENDING

 

[kaz]

Prove these corporate numbers are inacurate.

Address...


S P E N D I N G

 

[Truthmatters]

The Decline of Corporate Income Tax Revenues — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


■The share that corporate tax revenues comprise of total federal tax revenues also has collapsed, falling from an average of 28 percent of federal revenues in the 1950s and 21 percent in the 1960s to an average of about 10 percent since the 1980s.
■The effective corporate tax rate — that is, the percentage of corporate profits that is paid in federal corporate income taxes — has followed a similar pattern. During the 1990s, corporations as a group paid an average of 25.3 percent of their profits in federal corporate income taxes, according to new Congressional Research Service estimates. By contrast, they paid more than 49 percent in the 1950s, 38 percent in the 1960s, and 33 percent in the 1970s.
■Corporate income tax revenues are lower in the United States than in most European countries. According to data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, total federal and state corporate income tax revenues in the United States in 2000, measured as a share of the economy, were about one-quarter less than the average for other OECD member countries. Thirty-five years ago, the opposite was true — corporations in the United States bore a heavier burden than their European counterparts.

These are the facts folks and you can either face them or live in fantasy land

Two words, spend ing

Do you think we had debt after WWII?

We spent into the economy after WWII.

 

[kaz]

These are the facts folks and you can either face them or live in fantasy land

Two words, spend ing

Do you think we had debt after WWII?

We spent into the economy after WWII.

We spent during WWII greater then we did now on the war. But in the 50s, here's a thought, what was government spending as a percent of GDP?

 

[Truthmatters]

Do you remember the interstate highway system?

 

[Truthmatters]

Heres a thought for you.

If you have huge outlays is it wise to allow some of your customers to just have services free?


No its not is it.

spending is even more reason to raise your revenue by charging those who benifit from your services their fair share.


Corps are getting a free ride and your kid is getting shitty schools in return.

 

[Truthmatters]

The facts show that the right wing meme on corprate taxes is nothing but crap.

Why do you people keep spewing it?

 

[Samson]

Heres a thought for you.

If you have huge outlays is it wise to allow some of your customers to just have services free?.

I don't suppose NOT having HUGE Outlays occured to anyone.

Certainly not you.

 

[Samson]

The facts show that the right wing meme on corprate taxes is nothing but crap.

Why do you people keep spewing it?

Kinda like the facts show you're a moron, yet you keep posting?

 

[Truthmatters]

And how do you get to less outlays?

By paying off your debt.

Time for EVERYONE TO PAY THEIR SHARE

 

[Truthmatters]

This American household has certain expendatures we are willing to pay for.

You, if you ran the household personally would not be willing to pay for those things.

YOU dont get to decide, the family votes to choose what we are willing to pay for.

 

[Bfgrn]

Why is it that after WWII these guys helped their country pay off a war and NOW these corps are NOT helping us pay off the war on terror that Bush waged?

Lets remember the 50s were post war years and everything boomed.

We need to get them to help us pay so we can all boom again.


We are not broke we are just not charging all the customers the right price for their services.

Time for corporate America to pay their faire share again.

You are arguing with people who have NO understanding of how a free market is supposed to work, NO human capital in any of their equations and are totally obtuse to corporate welfare. They are the modern day Pharisee; mammon before people. They never talk about corporate cost externalization, which IS socialism.

 

[Truthmatters]

They are Americans who have lost their way.

I so wish they would prioritize our country again instead of making gods of corprate heads.

 

[The T]

Do you remember the interstate highway system?

Article 1, Section 8, United states Constitution:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[Samson]

Do you remember the interstate highway system?

Article 1, Section 8, United states Constitution:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

You really think TM can pay attention long enough to read that?

 

[The Infidel]

They are Americans who have lost their way.

I so wish they would prioritize our country again instead of making gods of corprate heads.

Hmm... kind of like GE's CEO Jeff Immelt.

You hypocrite!

 

[Jack Fate]

They are Americans who have lost their way.

I so wish they would prioritize our country again instead of making gods of corprate heads.

Corporations are not our problem.

The special interests are choking the American people. The special interests are stripping our pockets. We want jobs and prosperity. your side failed.

 

[The Infidel]

And how do you get to less outlays?

By paying off your debt.

Time for EVERYONE TO PAY THEIR SHARE

You fucking dumb little bitch.... I ALMOST feel sorry for you.

I have payed and continue to pay my FAIR share to the government.

I WANT THEM TO START USING THAT MONEY IN A MORE RESPONSIBLE WAY!

I'M SICK OF THE WASTE I SEE.... and all these social services we provide to those who DONT pay THEIR fair share.... well, I'd like to see that sliced and diced too.

There are too many tit suckers and not enough tits damn it! We are starving the god damned cow!

Fuck..... ! You are stupid!

 

[The Infidel]

Oh... one more thing


Too many of those "tit suckers" dont are'nt even supposed to be in this country!

Yes I am talking about criminal illegal aliens.

 

[The T]

Do you remember the interstate highway system?

Article 1, Section 8, United states Constitution:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

You really think TM can pay attention long enough to read that?

Still have to give it a shot. If TM doesn't bother to read it? Maybe some other Lefty teetering on the verge of Statism and support of such, will, and quite possibly? It will set off a light in their minds to pull them away from the brink of stupidity.

(Rhetorically, of course)...