Hey Libs!

[kaz]

Most U.S. Corporations Pay No Income Tax - NYTimes.com

When America was in its hey day how much of the tax revenues were the corps paying into our coffers?

Corporate taxes are double taxation on the shareholders and job killers. The ideal corporate tax rate is zero.

 

[Truthmatters]

Do you righties understand what this means?

It means the reason we are broke is the corps are not paying their fair share anymore like they USED to when we had MUCH better economic times.

Cutting their share of the burden has fucked us royally

 

[Truthmatters]

Most U.S. Corporations Pay No Income Tax - NYTimes.com

When America was in its hey day how much of the tax revenues were the corps paying into our coffers?

Corporate taxes are double taxation on the shareholders and job killers. The ideal corporate tax rate is zero.

wrong

They had much higher taxes for decades and did great.

Your "point" is nothing but a lie handed to you by the corprations

 

[kaz]

Do you righties understand what this means?

It means the reason we are broke is the corps are not paying their fair share anymore like they USED to when we had MUCH better economic times.

Cutting their share of the burden has fucked us royally

I see, the only difference between then and now was corporate taxes, so a logical mind would conclude that is the sole difference between economic times then and now. Got it.

Question: What was the difference in government spending as a percent of GDP between then and now?

 

[kaz]

Most U.S. Corporations Pay No Income Tax - NYTimes.com

When America was in its hey day how much of the tax revenues were the corps paying into our coffers?

Corporate taxes are double taxation on the shareholders and job killers. The ideal corporate tax rate is zero.

wrong

They had much higher taxes for decades and did great.

Your "point" is nothing but a lie handed to you by the corprations

Yes, it was handed to me by the corporations. Also by the field of economics. Yours was handed to you by your religion, liberalism.

 

[Truthmatters]

During the 1990s, corporations as a group paid an average of 25.3 percent of their profits in federal corporate income taxes, according to new Congressional Research Service estimates. By contrast, they paid more than 49 percent in the 1950s, 38 percent in the 1960s, and 33 percent in the 1970s.


The corporations did fine under these tax burdens.

The history is clear on that.

Go look at the economic numbers and how they helped us pay off WWII.

Now they have their lobbiest so far into our government that they are bailing on their fair share of the cost of running this great country.

You buy their talking points and vote for their free ride at your own expense.

When will you stop being their fool?

 

[Samson]

Most U.S. Corporations Pay No Income Tax - NYTimes.com

When America was in its hey day how much of the tax revenues were the corps paying into our coffers?

By "Hey Day," I guess you mean when corporation could afford to hire people without worrying about matching SSI, Workman's comp., EPA regulations, OSHA regulations, Bureau of Regulations Regulations?

 

[Truthmatters]

Umm dude the 50s are after SS was formed

 

[Vast LWC]

Most U.S. Corporations Pay No Income Tax - NYTimes.com

When America was in its hey day how much of the tax revenues were the corps paying into our coffers?

Corporate taxes are double taxation on the shareholders and job killers. The ideal corporate tax rate is zero.

If it's true that corporate taxes should be done away with...

Then there's no excuse as to why Capital Gains Taxes should be lower than everyone else's income tax rate.

You can be sure as hell that low Cap Gains Taxes aren't creating American jobs.

So, you're right. Let's do away with the corporate tax, and raise the Cap Gains tax to where it should be.

It'll create more revenue that way anyway, as individual investors will have less of an ability to take advantage of loopholes and lobbying.

 

[kaz]

Umm dude the 50s are after SS was formed

The rates were far lower and it doesn't include all the other things he mentioned.

And you ignored my question of government spending as a percent of GDP then because Virginia, spending just may be an issue...

 

[Truthmatters]

History proves that tired old line that if they have to pay these reasonable tax rates the corporations will die.

They never died under them in the past and as a matter of fact they flourished.

So did the people.

The corps want us weak so they can control our government instead of them having to comply to the government regualtions.


The right leaning voter votes for them to have the power to control our government.

 

[Samson]

Umm dude the 50s are after SS was formed

You're at your best when you don't realise you're an idiot.

 

[Truthmatters]

Umm dude the 50s are after SS was formed

The rates were far lower and it doesn't include all the other things he mentioned.

And you ignored my question of government spending as a percent of GDP then because Virginia, spending just may be an issue...

YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!


I just provided the facts and you are merely spouting foolishness

 

[kaz]

Most U.S. Corporations Pay No Income Tax - NYTimes.com

When America was in its hey day how much of the tax revenues were the corps paying into our coffers?

Corporate taxes are double taxation on the shareholders and job killers. The ideal corporate tax rate is zero.

If it's true that corporate taxes should be done away with...

Then there's no excuse as to why Capital Gains Taxes should be lower than everyone else's income tax rate.

We need a better tax system, like the fair tax. But if you assume we stay with the same system that we have other then eliminating corporate taxes then I don't disagree on that in theory we should simultaneously eliminate treating capital gains differently then other investment income.

You can be sure as hell that low Cap Gains Taxes aren't creating American jobs.

Wrong but whatever.

 

[Truthmatters]

The Decline of Corporate Income Tax Revenues — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


■The share that corporate tax revenues comprise of total federal tax revenues also has collapsed, falling from an average of 28 percent of federal revenues in the 1950s and 21 percent in the 1960s to an average of about 10 percent since the 1980s.
■The effective corporate tax rate — that is, the percentage of corporate profits that is paid in federal corporate income taxes — has followed a similar pattern. During the 1990s, corporations as a group paid an average of 25.3 percent of their profits in federal corporate income taxes, according to new Congressional Research Service estimates. By contrast, they paid more than 49 percent in the 1950s, 38 percent in the 1960s, and 33 percent in the 1970s.
■Corporate income tax revenues are lower in the United States than in most European countries. According to data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, total federal and state corporate income tax revenues in the United States in 2000, measured as a share of the economy, were about one-quarter less than the average for other OECD member countries. Thirty-five years ago, the opposite was true — corporations in the United States bore a heavier burden than their European counterparts.

These are the facts folks and you can either face them or live in fantasy land

 

[Samson]

You can be sure as hell that low Cap Gains Taxes aren't creating American jobs.

Wrong but whatever.

Its always ironic to hear about how enough is not paid into a system with a TRILLION $ budget.

 

[kaz]

Umm dude the 50s are after SS was formed

The rates were far lower and it doesn't include all the other things he mentioned.

And you ignored my question of government spending as a percent of GDP then because Virginia, spending just may be an issue...

YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!


I just provided the facts and you are merely spouting foolishness

To a Christian Jesus = truth, to a liberal socialism = truth. You must argue without violating that tenant. I'm an MBA and spent my career in GE management and management consulting. Then I went my own way and I'm closing on buying my fourth business in just over two years in April. I pay all the taxes I'm talking about, I don't just read about them.

Business is wrong, economics are wrong, I am wrong. You know more and have eloquently demonstrated that with your, "no it's not" argument. Hey, you found religion. Peace my friend.

 

[Truthmatters]

Why is it that after WWII these guys helped their country pay off a war and NOW these corps are NOT helping us pay off the war on terror that Bush waged?

Lets remember the 50s were post war years and everything boomed.

We need to get them to help us pay so we can all boom again.


We are not broke we are just not charging all the customers the right price for their services.

Time for corporate America to pay their faire share again.

 

[kaz]

The Decline of Corporate Income Tax Revenues — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities


■The share that corporate tax revenues comprise of total federal tax revenues also has collapsed, falling from an average of 28 percent of federal revenues in the 1950s and 21 percent in the 1960s to an average of about 10 percent since the 1980s.
■The effective corporate tax rate — that is, the percentage of corporate profits that is paid in federal corporate income taxes — has followed a similar pattern. During the 1990s, corporations as a group paid an average of 25.3 percent of their profits in federal corporate income taxes, according to new Congressional Research Service estimates. By contrast, they paid more than 49 percent in the 1950s, 38 percent in the 1960s, and 33 percent in the 1970s.
■Corporate income tax revenues are lower in the United States than in most European countries. According to data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, total federal and state corporate income tax revenues in the United States in 2000, measured as a share of the economy, were about one-quarter less than the average for other OECD member countries. Thirty-five years ago, the opposite was true — corporations in the United States bore a heavier burden than their European counterparts.

These are the facts folks and you can either face them or live in fantasy land

Two words, spend ing

 

[Truthmatters]

The rates were far lower and it doesn't include all the other things he mentioned.

And you ignored my question of government spending as a percent of GDP then because Virginia, spending just may be an issue...

YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!


I just provided the facts and you are merely spouting foolishness

To a Christian Jesus = truth, to a liberal socialism = truth. You must argue without violating that tenant. I'm an MBA and spent my career in GE management and management consulting. Then I went my own way and I'm closing on buying my fourth business in just over two years in April. I pay all the taxes I'm talking about, I don't just read about them.

Business is wrong, economics are wrong, I am wrong. You know more and have eloquently demonstrated that with your, "no it's not" argument. Hey, you found religion. Peace my friend.

Again with the "Im a this or that" from a poster?


If you had any sense you would respect the facts given.


Prove these corporate numbers are inacurate.