Herman Cain pushes progressive fairtax trap during Republican Presidential Debate

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    Once again Herman Cain spits upon our Constitution and is proud to announce he supports creating a new entitlement, the “fairtax” family consumption allowance which would send a monthly bonus check to those who are not gainfully employed and already living on the public dole. This of course is a proposal for a massive redistribution of wealth. But aside from that, the family consumption entitlement is a clever progressive’s trick to create an overwhelming voting block dependent upon a monthly subsistence check from government.


    Let us look at the facts. I believe the average annual earnings in America is about $50K. And the monthly family consumption entitlement check would be about $450. While the monthly entitlement check would mean a great deal to your average wage earner and those who earn less than $50K, and mean even more to those already on the public dole and not working, and then considering the above mentioned groups account for an overwhelming majority of voters, perhaps 80% of our nation’s population, that same check to a person earning about $150-200K would mean very little, and surely not enough to be bribed during federal elections.


    But the wage earner with $50K a year and those earning far less, and surely those already on the public dole would more than likely gravitate to our progressive gang on Capitol Hill during federal elections who would promise to increase the family consumption allowance to bribe these voters, just as they have with social security over the years. And the sad truth is, our progressive gang on Capitol Hill already has their speech ready to increase the family consumption entitlement in order to buy votes during federal elections.


    How dare those who have imposed the fair tax on our nation’s poor, now refuse to increase the family consumption allowance to relieve the oppressive nature of a tax which taxes the food a mother buys to feed her child, taxes the clothing she purchases to cloth that child, taxes the fuel used to heat that child’s room during winter, taxes the medicine a mother needs to care for a sickly child, and then taxes the coffin used to bury her child because she could not afford the taxes imposed upon every imaginable necessity of life!


    Were we not warned by our founding fathers that A POWER OVER A MAN's SUBSISTENCE [the fairtax family consumption entitlement] AMOUNTS TO A POWER OVER HIS WILL ?____ Hamilton, No. 79 Federalist Papers


    My guess is, if our founding fathers were here today, one of the first measures they would take regarding tax reform is to add the following tax reform provision to our Constitution:



    Proposing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution of the United States.


    “SECTION 1. The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money


    NOTE: these words would return us to our founding father’s ORIGINAL TAX PLAN as they intended it to operate, especially with respect to extinguishing deficits! And, they would also remove the existing chains of taxation which Congress now uses to enslave America‘s businesses, its industrial and manufacturing base, and also end the slavish tax which now confiscates earned wages which working people earn from the sale of their labor!


    "SECTION 2. Congress ought not raise money by borrowing, but when the money arising from imposts duties and excise taxes are insufficient to meet the public exigencies, and Congress has raised money by borrowing during the course of a fiscal year, Congress shall then lay a direct tax at the beginning of the next fiscal year for an amount sufficient to extinguish the preceding fiscal year's deficit, and apply the revenue so raised to extinguishing said deficit."


    NOTE: Congress is to raise its primary revenue from imposts and duties, [taxes at our water’s edge], and may also lay miscellaneous internal excise taxes on specifically chosen articles of consumption.


    "SECTION 3. When Congress is required to lay a direct tax in accordance with Section 1 of this Article, the Secretary of the United States Treasury shall, in a timely manner, calculate each State's apportioned share of the total sum being raised by dividing its total population size by the total population of the united states and multiplying that figure by the total sum being raised by Congress, and then provide the various State Congressional Delegations with a Bill notifying their State’s Executive and Legislature of its share of the total tax being collected and a final date by which said tax shall be paid into the United States Treasury."


    NOTE: our founder’s fair share formula to extinguish a deficit is :


    States’ population

    ---------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S SHARE

    Total U.S. Population




    "SECTION 4. Each State shall be free to assume and pay its quota of the direct tax into the United States Treasury by a final date set by Congress, but if any State shall refuse or neglect to pay its quota, then Congress shall send forth its officers to assess and levy such State's proportion against the real property within the State with interest thereon at the rate of ((?)) per cent per annum, and against the individual owners of the taxable property. Provision shall be made for a 15% discount for those States paying their share by ((?))of the fiscal year in which the tax is laid, and a 10% discount for States paying by the final date set by Congress, such discount being to defray the States' cost of collection."



    JWK


    If we can make the majority of America’s families dependent upon a federal government check, [the alleged fair tax’s family consumption entitlement] we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ___Our Washington Establishment’s Marxist game plan, a plan to establish a federal plantation and redistribute the bread which America’s labor and business has produced.
     
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    When will you realize that everything on your list presently has an IMBEDDED TAX and the Fair tax does away with them?
     
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    And in their place is imposed a 23 percent across the board tax. However, Congress maintains the power to lay and collect taxes which may be calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other incomes. The “fairtax” is a clever proposal for a massive expansion of the subject matter Congress taxes.


    JWK


    Are we really to believe the founder of fairtax.org., Leo E. Linbeck Jr. and Herman Cain, both former ringleaders of the federal reserve banking cartel which plunders our national treasury?
     
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    Which the poor will be getting a prebate for all bear necessities, so what's the problem?
     
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    I see nothing wrong with the FAIRTAX. It taxes commerce instead of INCOME as we have now, and the present system is used as a tool for politicians to manipulate as to win elections...and we see where that has gotten us...so what's the problem?
     
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    ...lawl unconstitutional?
     
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    I don't like Cain because of his "wtf I'll kick yo face in bitch!" political campain style but outside of that I admit I dono shit about the fairtax.
     
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    Really?

    Can you cite where he has ever said such a thing, or illuded such in his persona?
     
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    Yes. Think about it.
    No yearly Federal tax forms to fill out or having to pay them. No IRS
    Having a full pay check each time you get paid. Nothing like SSI or Medicare taken out.
    Corporations would have to pay their fair share - like GE they would have to pay sales tax on the products the assemble like light bulbs. They would pay sales tax on all the metal, electrical component's and glass. Instead of us the consumer.
    The rich would pay their fair share. They are ones that buy the really expensive things like yachts and million dollar mansions.
    It would cut back big time on lobbyists trying to get tax breaks.
    The poor would get compensation to off set the expense.
    Sounds good to me.
     
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    The funny thing is the left preaches fairness, equality, etc...but when something truly equal and fair comes along they shun it. Can someone explain this?
     

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