basquebromance
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Lieu is speaking on MSNBC right now!
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Not sure I can agree with the OP.
This:
While appearing on CNN Wednesday, far-left Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) admitted that he “would love to be able to control and regulate the content of speech” but noted that the First Amendment provides a stumbling block to the fulfillment of that wish.
is a misrepresentation of what he said. He did not say that the first amendment was a 'stumbling block to the fulfillment of his wish but that government flatly cannot regulate speech AND that he thought it was better in the long run that government not do so. That is correct. It was little more than a very poorly worded statement against government regulation of speech. Hair on fire embellishment of statements taken out of context is a poor way to engage in politics. Hell, that is what is done with Trump on a continual basis.
I know conservatives on this forum that would love to see lefties lined up and shot for their beliefs. They'd probably justify it by calling them traitors. The situation is concerning because maniacs on both sides are becoming emboldened.
Not really relevant to what I said.Not sure I can agree with the OP.
This:
While appearing on CNN Wednesday, far-left Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) admitted that he “would love to be able to control and regulate the content of speech” but noted that the First Amendment provides a stumbling block to the fulfillment of that wish.
is a misrepresentation of what he said. He did not say that the first amendment was a 'stumbling block to the fulfillment of his wish but that government flatly cannot regulate speech AND that he thought it was better in the long run that government not do so. That is correct. It was little more than a very poorly worded statement against government regulation of speech. Hair on fire embellishment of statements taken out of context is a poor way to engage in politics. Hell, that is what is done with Trump on a continual basis.
But clearly -- "He would love" to do it.. Probably crosses his mind A LOT.. And that's NOT a person who will protect the Civil Liberties -- ALL of them --- that makes us freer than most of the world..
At a time where MANY other developed countries are CRIMINALIZING speech, and most Universities have completely redefined terms and the English language --- If you're a FAN of any or ALL of the POSITIVE rights granted in the Bill of Rights --- You've got no room for all the "Ted Lieus" that are showing their colors.....
Not really relevant to what I said.Not sure I can agree with the OP.
This:
While appearing on CNN Wednesday, far-left Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) admitted that he “would love to be able to control and regulate the content of speech” but noted that the First Amendment provides a stumbling block to the fulfillment of that wish.
is a misrepresentation of what he said. He did not say that the first amendment was a 'stumbling block to the fulfillment of his wish but that government flatly cannot regulate speech AND that he thought it was better in the long run that government not do so. That is correct. It was little more than a very poorly worded statement against government regulation of speech. Hair on fire embellishment of statements taken out of context is a poor way to engage in politics. Hell, that is what is done with Trump on a continual basis.
But clearly -- "He would love" to do it.. Probably crosses his mind A LOT.. And that's NOT a person who will protect the Civil Liberties -- ALL of them --- that makes us freer than most of the world..
At a time where MANY other developed countries are CRIMINALIZING speech, and most Universities have completely redefined terms and the English language --- If you're a FAN of any or ALL of the POSITIVE rights granted in the Bill of Rights --- You've got no room for all the "Ted Lieus" that are showing their colors.....
Misrepresentations do not strengthen an argument. What other countries are doing is not relevant to the fact that he clearly states regulating speech is not something that is positive in the long run and directly states the constitution prevents it.
No.Not really relevant to what I said.Not sure I can agree with the OP.
This:
While appearing on CNN Wednesday, far-left Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) admitted that he “would love to be able to control and regulate the content of speech” but noted that the First Amendment provides a stumbling block to the fulfillment of that wish.
is a misrepresentation of what he said. He did not say that the first amendment was a 'stumbling block to the fulfillment of his wish but that government flatly cannot regulate speech AND that he thought it was better in the long run that government not do so. That is correct. It was little more than a very poorly worded statement against government regulation of speech. Hair on fire embellishment of statements taken out of context is a poor way to engage in politics. Hell, that is what is done with Trump on a continual basis.
But clearly -- "He would love" to do it.. Probably crosses his mind A LOT.. And that's NOT a person who will protect the Civil Liberties -- ALL of them --- that makes us freer than most of the world..
At a time where MANY other developed countries are CRIMINALIZING speech, and most Universities have completely redefined terms and the English language --- If you're a FAN of any or ALL of the POSITIVE rights granted in the Bill of Rights --- You've got no room for all the "Ted Lieus" that are showing their colors.....
Misrepresentations do not strengthen an argument. What other countries are doing is not relevant to the fact that he clearly states regulating speech is not something that is positive in the long run and directly states the constitution prevents it.
So you're OK with authoritarian dickheads, straining at the yolk to censure people for their speech BECAUSE you THINK the 1st Amendment restrains them?????
They can KILL the 1st Amendment by INACTION, or nip at it around the edges or appoint judges that will turn a blind eye.. They are NOT "truly restrained"... And what OTHER countries are doing IS relevant. Because it's evidence of how a free country can SLIP into this authoritaritarian mode.. It NEVER gets better when political leadership "feels restrained" by Civil Liberties. It ALWAYS gets worse..
And it can happen without a direct frontal attack on freedom of speech as it has occurred on most of our college campuses or in Britain or Canada or Australia or ANY NUMBER of places that are now fully sinking into the morass of meddlesome little petty tyrants....