And criminals by definition ignore every law you pass. Or is Murder not illegal? The worst mass killing in US history was carried out with an airplane. Want to outlaw those too?
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Not asking me but I will chime in, we need one more gun law ona a national level prohibiting any one who is placed in a mental hospital or care under the Baker Act to not be allowed to posess firearms until his Doctor says he is fit ie mentally stable enough to do so again.
The definition of being forcibly treated under the Baker act is you have to be a threat to yourself and or others for it to happen. So why should you be allowed to posess firearms?
I know for a fact that there is no national nor state law in many states prohibing the mentally unstable form posessing guns.
outside of that I think we have gun laws pretty well covered.
If you've ever been adjudicated mentally defective, or been committed to a mental institution, you will not pass a background check.
Ahh but you are allowed to keep any weapons you already have. And it is a state level thing on the mental issues.
Best of luck with both of those.
Doesn't matter what law you pass, if no one pays it any attention.
Those who don't pay attention are criminals, are they not?
Just because one person misuses his brain, the rest of us our banned from using ours?
No one who is not in Congress can actually think.
Best of luck with both of those.
Doesn't matter what law you pass, if no one pays it any attention.
Those who don't pay attention are criminals, are they not?
The point being it is already ILLEGAL to buy weapons in every case where insanity prevails. Of course one MUST first prove someone has a mental problem. The requirement being one be adjudged mental by a Judge or other appropriate Official.
What do you guys propose? That Politicians get to judge their opponents incompetent simply because they are their opponents?
And criminals by definition ignore every law you pass. Or is Murder not illegal? The worst mass killing in US history was carried out with an airplane. Want to outlaw those too?
Just because one person misuses his brain, the rest of us our banned from using ours?
One?
Ok, change it to 1%. How does that change a thing? Sorry, a small minority can't handle the responsibilities of freedom of speech. That means the rest of us go without?
Those who don't pay attention are criminals, are they not?
The point being it is already ILLEGAL to buy weapons in every case where insanity prevails. Of course one MUST first prove someone has a mental problem. The requirement being one be adjudged mental by a Judge or other appropriate Official.
What do you guys propose? That Politicians get to judge their opponents incompetent simply because they are their opponents?
It is perfectly legal for personal sales and those judged to be insane are still allowed to keep the weapons they already posess before being judged to be insane.
Those who don't pay attention are criminals, are they not?
The point being it is already ILLEGAL to buy weapons in every case where insanity prevails. Of course one MUST first prove someone has a mental problem. The requirement being one be adjudged mental by a Judge or other appropriate Official.
What do you guys propose? That Politicians get to judge their opponents incompetent simply because they are their opponents?
It is perfectly legal for personal sales and those judged to be insane are still allowed to keep the weapons they already posess before being judged to be insane.
Best of luck with both of those.
Doesn't matter what law you pass, if no one pays it any attention.
Those who don't pay attention are criminals, are they not?
The point being it is already ILLEGAL to buy weapons in every case where insanity prevails. Of course one MUST first prove someone has a mental problem. The requirement being one be adjudged mental by a Judge or other appropriate Official.
What do you guys propose? That Politicians get to judge their opponents incompetent simply because they are their opponents?
Here's why a local background check could have helped....
In a statement issued Saturday night, Pima Community College said Loughner was suspended after a series of run-ins with campus police between February and September, capped by the discovery of a YouTube video in which he accused the college of operating unconstitutionally. Loughner quit school after the suspension, the college said -- and it warned him that to return, he had to present a doctor's note stating that his presence would not be "a danger to himself or others."
Massacre suspect "mentally disturbed," former teacher says - CNN.com
Those who don't pay attention are criminals, are they not?
The point being it is already ILLEGAL to buy weapons in every case where insanity prevails. Of course one MUST first prove someone has a mental problem. The requirement being one be adjudged mental by a Judge or other appropriate Official.
What do you guys propose? That Politicians get to judge their opponents incompetent simply because they are their opponents?
Of the top, I'd propose a national data base which includes every person convicted of any felony, crime of violence, terrortist theat, battery or assault, illegal possesson of a firearem or concealed weapon, DUI, the possesson for sale, sale or transportaton of drugs; every person detained on a civil committment wherein a medical professional found the person to be a danger to themselves or others; anyone where a court has issued a restraining order or stay away order to be identifed and prohibited from purchasing a firearm, or owning, having in their possesson, custody or control; and, making a manditory prison sentence for a violation of this law.
The point being it is already ILLEGAL to buy weapons in every case where insanity prevails. Of course one MUST first prove someone has a mental problem. The requirement being one be adjudged mental by a Judge or other appropriate Official.
What do you guys propose? That Politicians get to judge their opponents incompetent simply because they are their opponents?
Of the top, I'd propose a national data base which includes every person convicted of any felony, crime of violence, terrortist theat, battery or assault, illegal possesson of a firearem or concealed weapon, DUI, the possesson for sale, sale or transportaton of drugs; every person detained on a civil committment wherein a medical professional found the person to be a danger to themselves or others; anyone where a court has issued a restraining order or stay away order to be identifed and prohibited from purchasing a firearm, or owning, having in their possesson, custody or control; and, making a manditory prison sentence for a violation of this law.
You're talking "perfect world," right?
(they won't get it)
What do you suggest needs to be done (if anything) to keep guns out of the hands of those intent in using guns to harm innocents? Keep the image of the nine year old daughter, sister and grandchild killed in this latest horrific slaughter when (if) you reply.
Not asking me but I will chime in, we need one more gun law ona a national level prohibiting any one who is placed in a mental hospital or care under the Baker Act to not be allowed to posess firearms until his Doctor says he is fit ie mentally stable enough to do so again.
The definition of being forcibly treated under the Baker act is you have to be a threat to yourself and or others for it to happen. So why should you be allowed to posess firearms?
I know for a fact that there is no national nor state law in many states prohibing the mentally unstable form posessing guns.
outside of that I think we have gun laws pretty well covered.
If you've ever been adjudicated mentally defective, or been committed to a mental institution, you will not pass a background check.
The sheriff said the suspect had previous contact with law enforcement in which he made violent threats, but he declined to provide further details. Court records indicate Loughner had been arrested for possession of drug paraphernalia in 2007, but the charges were dismissed.
Doctors: Wounded Arizona congresswoman able to communicate - CNN.com
Local background checks might have kept this guy from being able to buy a gun.