HC reform proves that the system has broken

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    Watching this Health Care Bill progress is one of the most frustrating procedures
    that I have ever seen. First the Democrats hold a Super Majority in the Sentate
    and run with abandon over the minority part. Then they lose Teddy's seat and have
    to play nice. The whole time the GOP is whining and saying that they also want HC reform
    and even submit an embarassing shell of proposals. They would be happy to leave the system just as it is.

    Bi-Paritsanship is a dead animal in DC. Rather than even begin to think about the
    Country and what it is best for the citizens, it appears each party is locked in a
    death match for power. They seem to be only considering what is best for their
    political party.

    Now I understand better why many people just want to "Throw the Bumbs out of Office!"
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    Remember which side is about to save American lives by ending pre exsisting conditions.

    There is one party who doesnt care and has killed healthcare reform EVERY time it has been attempted and then did NOTHING to fix it while in complete control for years.
     
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    A flat out lie. You aren't going to find many in the GOP who don't think the system needs changes. The disagreement is on how to do it and what will work. The debate over health care is truly a debate of ideologies. One thinks the the only way to fix things is raise taxes and let government do it and one thinks things can be improved with some deregulation. Unfortunately for you the track of record of govenment efficiently solving problems isn't so great.
     
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    Which is moral how exactly? Should you get to buy auto insurance AFTER you get in a car accident?

    Then there's the other party who's 'solution' is unconstitutional and will make things worse.
     
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    I wouldn't call it a flat out lie. The GOP hasn't gone out of their way to try to reform the health care or insurance industries when they held majorities, so props to the democrats for bringing it to the forefront. The problem with the democrats though is that they see the problem and wildly blow it out of proportion to try to implement massive government involvement. It's a simple example of biting off more than you can chew.
     
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    Healthcare is a life and death issue.

    The founders wrote into our documents the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    Healthcare is a right by our founders own definition.
     
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    Exactly! What we need is a moderation from both parites and a wilingness to drop the party label just long enough to accomplish something. The GOP needs to get out of the pockets of speciall interests, such as Insurance Companies and the Dems needs to learn once and for all that more government is not the answer to every problem.

    I think Obama and the Dems saw the landslide in 2008 as their best opportunity ever, and perhaps forever, to reform an out of control HC system. Their intentions were noble, but somewhere along the way extremism carried the day.
     
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    Which, of course, is why no one even thought of that for 200 years.

    Please, the educated in the room aren't so stupid to believe that disengenous argument.
     
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    Truth is right. The frigin republicans were against Social Security and they were against Madicare. If Ronald Regan had his way, segreagation would still rule. This is from Wkipedia

     
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    I am fairly certain the framers would not agree with you that a right to the concept of life equals a right to free medical care.

    Please explain to us all how you taking care of yourself is someone elses problem.
     
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