Has the Great Negotiator negotiated anything?

[Lastamender]

Trump made Boeing and other contractors drop the prices through negotiation.

I'll give you that one, but that was one of his biggest selling points. There must be lots more. Don't you remember him promising to negotiate all those wonderful deals? He Negotiated a great deal with carrier too. Carrier got a pile of money, and went ahead and moved most of those jobs to Mexico anyway. Great negotiating there.

But not all the jobs. This is not socialism Trump can't force businesses to do anything.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump made Boeing and other contractors drop the prices through negotiation.

I'll give you that one, but that was one of his biggest selling points. There must be lots more. Don't you remember him promising to negotiate all those wonderful deals? He Negotiated a great deal with carrier too. Carrier got a pile of money, and went ahead and moved most of those jobs to Mexico anyway. Great negotiating there.

But not all the jobs. This is not socialism Trump can't force businesses to do anything.

Yes, a small percentage stayed. They were supposed to stay anyway. If Trump-0 had tried to force them, it wouldn't be negotiating anyway. He proudly proclaimed he saved all those jobs by negotiating with Carrier. His statement was bullshit. He gave Carrier a lot of money. They took it, and did what they had intended to do in the first place. You got any more claims of his negotiating to make?

 

[martybegan]

Trump claims to be the best negotiator. He has unilaterally killed a lot of regulations, and broken a few agreements, and pissed off most of our allies, as well as the rest of the world, but I'm not aware of a single negotiation he has even tried, much less succeeded in. His first anniversary in the presidency is celebrated with a government shut down that he caused. Can anybody give me an example of his great negotiating ability that I somehow missed?

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

 

[martybegan]

He put the deal on the table. The Democrats wouldn't agree to it and in doing so, lost everything.

So tell me: Who is the worst negotiator?

Sure. He shut down the government. Some negotiator.

Actually the Senate shut down the government, more correctly the rules of the Senate shut the government down.

Sure, based on what Trump-0 said he would sign. Go back and listen to Turtle Boy's statements on that.

How about you provide actual backup?

And you didn't respond to my statement, just "hurr durr durr trump hurr durr"

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump claims to be the best negotiator. He has unilaterally killed a lot of regulations, and broken a few agreements, and pissed off most of our allies, as well as the rest of the world, but I'm not aware of a single negotiation he has even tried, much less succeeded in. His first anniversary in the presidency is celebrated with a government shut down that he caused. Can anybody give me an example of his great negotiating ability that I somehow missed?

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

Trump’s Vulgar Rebuff of Immigration Deal Boosts Shutdown Risk

"Give us everything we want with nothing in return" has been Trump-0's position.

 

[martybegan]

Trump claims to be the best negotiator. He has unilaterally killed a lot of regulations, and broken a few agreements, and pissed off most of our allies, as well as the rest of the world, but I'm not aware of a single negotiation he has even tried, much less succeeded in. His first anniversary in the presidency is celebrated with a government shut down that he caused. Can anybody give me an example of his great negotiating ability that I somehow missed?

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

Trump’s Vulgar Rebuff of Immigration Deal Boosts Shutdown Risk

"Give us everything we want with nothing in return" has been Trump-0's position.

Yeah, the article is nothing but a rehash of the whole "shithole" thing.

Try again, hack-twat.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump claims to be the best negotiator. He has unilaterally killed a lot of regulations, and broken a few agreements, and pissed off most of our allies, as well as the rest of the world, but I'm not aware of a single negotiation he has even tried, much less succeeded in. His first anniversary in the presidency is celebrated with a government shut down that he caused. Can anybody give me an example of his great negotiating ability that I somehow missed?

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

Trump’s Vulgar Rebuff of Immigration Deal Boosts Shutdown Risk

"Give us everything we want with nothing in return" has been Trump-0's position.

Yeah, the article is nothing but a rehash of the whole "shithole" thing.

Try again, hack-twat.

If you don't see the connection between the shithole thing and the shutdown, you are dumber than I thought. There was an agreement on Friday until your great negotiator blew it up.

 

[martybegan]

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

Trump’s Vulgar Rebuff of Immigration Deal Boosts Shutdown Risk

"Give us everything we want with nothing in return" has been Trump-0's position.

Yeah, the article is nothing but a rehash of the whole "shithole" thing.

Try again, hack-twat.

If you don't see the connection between the shithole thing and the shutdown, you are dumber than I thought. There was an agreement on Friday until your great negotiator blew it up.

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

 

[BULLDOG]

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

Trump’s Vulgar Rebuff of Immigration Deal Boosts Shutdown Risk

"Give us everything we want with nothing in return" has been Trump-0's position.

Yeah, the article is nothing but a rehash of the whole "shithole" thing.

Try again, hack-twat.

If you don't see the connection between the shithole thing and the shutdown, you are dumber than I thought. There was an agreement on Friday until your great negotiator blew it up.

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

Sorry, but if you do't have a better understanding of recent events than that, you need to go read a couple of credible newspapers and then come back.

 

[DrLove]

Orange Foolius is the weakest president and poorest negotiator in US history

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/08/opini...skills-urban-legend-opinion-miller/index.html
Trump Is a Bad Negotiator
Donald Trump Says He's The Best Dealmaker. Negotiation Experts Say Otherwise. | HuffPost
Trump Is A Terrible Negotiator

 

[martybegan]

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

Trump’s Vulgar Rebuff of Immigration Deal Boosts Shutdown Risk

"Give us everything we want with nothing in return" has been Trump-0's position.

Yeah, the article is nothing but a rehash of the whole "shithole" thing.

Try again, hack-twat.

If you don't see the connection between the shithole thing and the shutdown, you are dumber than I thought. There was an agreement on Friday until your great negotiator blew it up.

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

Sorry, but if you do't have a better understanding of recent events than that, you need to go read a couple of credible newspapers and then come back.

Don't run away you little coward-twat. Again what was the agreement they had last week, and what changed from then to now?

If it was just Don's comments, then it must mean the Dems changed their demands.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump’s Vulgar Rebuff of Immigration Deal Boosts Shutdown Risk

"Give us everything we want with nothing in return" has been Trump-0's position.

Yeah, the article is nothing but a rehash of the whole "shithole" thing.

Try again, hack-twat.

If you don't see the connection between the shithole thing and the shutdown, you are dumber than I thought. There was an agreement on Friday until your great negotiator blew it up.

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

Sorry, but if you do't have a better understanding of recent events than that, you need to go read a couple of credible newspapers and then come back.

Don't run away you little coward-twat. Again what was the agreement they had last week, and what changed from then to now?

If it was just Don's comments, then it must mean the Dems changed their demands.

Sorry. You need at least a passing understanding of events to join any conversation.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah, the article is nothing but a rehash of the whole "shithole" thing.

Try again, hack-twat.

If you don't see the connection between the shithole thing and the shutdown, you are dumber than I thought. There was an agreement on Friday until your great negotiator blew it up.

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

Sorry, but if you do't have a better understanding of recent events than that, you need to go read a couple of credible newspapers and then come back.

Don't run away you little coward-twat. Again what was the agreement they had last week, and what changed from then to now?

If it was just Don's comments, then it must mean the Dems changed their demands.

Sorry. You need at least a passing understanding of events to join any conversation.

What's there to understand? The senate had a continuing resolution to vote on, and decided to not allow the vote to happen. The only way that happens is if there are not 60 votes to table debate, which is what the Dems used to prevent the funding bill to proceed.

Anything else, be it horse trading on other bills or including a DACA fix in another continuing resolution is nothing but assumptions and guesses.

 

[BULLDOG]

If you don't see the connection between the shithole thing and the shutdown, you are dumber than I thought. There was an agreement on Friday until your great negotiator blew it up.

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

Sorry, but if you do't have a better understanding of recent events than that, you need to go read a couple of credible newspapers and then come back.

Don't run away you little coward-twat. Again what was the agreement they had last week, and what changed from then to now?

If it was just Don's comments, then it must mean the Dems changed their demands.

Sorry. You need at least a passing understanding of events to join any conversation.

What's there to understand? The senate had a continuing resolution to vote on, and decided to not allow the vote to happen. The only way that happens is if there are not 60 votes to table debate, which is what the Dems used to prevent the funding bill to proceed.

Anything else, be it horse trading on other bills or including a DACA fix in another continuing resolution is nothing but assumptions and guesses.

If Trump, or anybody on the right knew anything about negotiating anything, this wouldn't have happened. Trump blew up the deal. It's on his narrow orange shoulders.

 

[martybegan]

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

Sorry, but if you do't have a better understanding of recent events than that, you need to go read a couple of credible newspapers and then come back.

Don't run away you little coward-twat. Again what was the agreement they had last week, and what changed from then to now?

If it was just Don's comments, then it must mean the Dems changed their demands.

Sorry. You need at least a passing understanding of events to join any conversation.

What's there to understand? The senate had a continuing resolution to vote on, and decided to not allow the vote to happen. The only way that happens is if there are not 60 votes to table debate, which is what the Dems used to prevent the funding bill to proceed.

Anything else, be it horse trading on other bills or including a DACA fix in another continuing resolution is nothing but assumptions and guesses.

If Trump, or anybody on the right knew anything about negotiating anything, this wouldn't have happened. Trump blew up the deal. It's on his narrow orange shoulders.

Again, what deal? Did anyone actually ever publish this "deal"

Right now the Senate is denying a vote on a continuing resolution "just because", and the hold up is due to the minority party not allowing a floor vote.

That's all the actual facts we know right now.

 

[Lastamender]

So the Dems decided to up their demands based on the Shithole comment?

Sorry, but if you do't have a better understanding of recent events than that, you need to go read a couple of credible newspapers and then come back.

Don't run away you little coward-twat. Again what was the agreement they had last week, and what changed from then to now?

If it was just Don's comments, then it must mean the Dems changed their demands.

Sorry. You need at least a passing understanding of events to join any conversation.

What's there to understand? The senate had a continuing resolution to vote on, and decided to not allow the vote to happen. The only way that happens is if there are not 60 votes to table debate, which is what the Dems used to prevent the funding bill to proceed.

Anything else, be it horse trading on other bills or including a DACA fix in another continuing resolution is nothing but assumptions and guesses.

If Trump, or anybody on the right knew anything about negotiating anything, this wouldn't have happened. Trump blew up the deal. It's on his narrow orange shoulders.

No problem. His shoulders have turned out to be quite strong and very broad. And he is in control, which he knows, and that is a wonderful place to negotiate from.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump claims to be the best negotiator. He has unilaterally killed a lot of regulations, and broken a few agreements, and pissed off most of our allies, as well as the rest of the world, but I'm not aware of a single negotiation he has even tried, much less succeeded in. His first anniversary in the presidency is celebrated with a government shut down that he caused. Can anybody give me an example of his great negotiating ability that I somehow missed?

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

That is a shithole response

 

[martybegan]

Trump claims to be the best negotiator. He has unilaterally killed a lot of regulations, and broken a few agreements, and pissed off most of our allies, as well as the rest of the world, but I'm not aware of a single negotiation he has even tried, much less succeeded in. His first anniversary in the presidency is celebrated with a government shut down that he caused. Can anybody give me an example of his great negotiating ability that I somehow missed?

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

That is a shithole response

So no answer from you either....

 

[rightwinger]

Trump claims to be the best negotiator. He has unilaterally killed a lot of regulations, and broken a few agreements, and pissed off most of our allies, as well as the rest of the world, but I'm not aware of a single negotiation he has even tried, much less succeeded in. His first anniversary in the presidency is celebrated with a government shut down that he caused. Can anybody give me an example of his great negotiating ability that I somehow missed?

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

That is a shithole response

So no answer from you either....

Fat Donnie's racist temper tantrum blew up a bipartisan deal that would have resolved Democratic objections and allowed the government to remain open

 

[martybegan]

How do you negotiate with the Democrat position of "give us everything we want with nothing in return"?

The bipartisan agreement was already made, and he said he would accept it. At the last minute, he blew up the deal. Negotiator my ass.
Can you point to an example of him actually succeeding in any negotiating? I would like to hear it. EOs or insulting tweets don't count as the negotiations he claimed to be so good at.

According to what sources did he "blow up the deal"?

And you didn't answer my question.

That is a shithole response

So no answer from you either....

Fat Donnie's racist temper tantrum blew up a bipartisan deal that would have resolved Democratic objections and allowed the government to remain open

yeah, keep saying that.

The Dems wanted what they wanted and decided to hold up un-related legislation to do so.

They lost.