Has Obama violated both the text and intent of our Constitution with immigration?

johnwk

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When answering this question with any certainty, it is not only important to look at the text of our Constitution, but the context in which that text was written in order to formulate a legitimate opinion as to what our Constitution means.

Speaking before an audience in Chicago on November. 25, 2014, Obama boldly stated that he “took an action to change the law” with respect to naturalization and immigration. For details see Obama Admits: 'I Just Took an Action to Change the Law'

So, one question to be answered here is whether Obama is vested with power to change statutory law. In fact, our Constitution, in crystal clear language declares that “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States . . .” Additionally, and with respect to naturalization, it declares that Congress, not our president, shall have power “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization . . . ” And in another part of our Constitution our president is commanded that “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed …”

So, by Obama’s own admission, he is clearly violating the text of our Constitution and is attempting to usurp power to change existing law dealing with naturalization and illegal entrants. But let us go a step further and discover the context in which the power to enact law dealing with naturalization was granted to Congress. Exactly what were our forefathers intentions for granting this power to Congress?

Sherman, who attended the Convention which framed our Constitution notes the intentions for which the power was granted. He says: “that Congress should have the power of naturalization, in order to prevent particular States receiving citizens, and forcing them upon others who would not have received them in any other manner. It was therefore meant to guard against an improper mode of naturalization, rather than foreigners should be received upon easier terms than those adopted by the several States.” see CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES, Rule of Naturalization, Feb. 3rd, 1790, page 1148

Is Obama not attempting to force foreigners upon States who would not have received them in any other manner?


Representative Burk goes on to elaborate upon filling the country with useful men!

Mr. BURKE thought it of importance to fill the country with useful men, such as farmers, mechanics, and manufacturers, and, therefore, would hold out every encouragement to them to emigrate to America. This class he would receive on liberal terms; and he was satisfied there would be room enough for them, and for their posterity, for five hundred years to come. There was another class of men, whom he did not think useful, and he did not care what impediments were thrown in their way; such as your European merchants, and factors of merchants, who come with a view of remaining so long as will enable them to acquire a fortune, and then they will leave the country, and carry off all their property with them. These people injure us more than they do us good, and, except in this last sentiment, I can compare them to nothing but leeches. They stick to us until they get their fill of our best blood, and then they fall off and leave us. I look upon the privilege of an American citizen to be an honorable one, and it ought not to be thrown away upon such people. There is another class also that I would interdict, that is, the convicts and criminals which they pour out of British jails. I wish sincerely some mode could be adopted to prevent the importation of such; but that, perhaps, is not in our power; the introduction of them ought to be considered as a high misdemeanor. See Representative Burk, RULE OF NATURALIZATION, FEB. 3RD, 1790


So, as it turns out, according to our forefathers expressed intentions, introducing the poverty stricken, uneducated, illiterate, low-skilled and disease infected populations of other countries into our Country, which is exactly what Obama is attempting to accomplish, ought to be considered a “high misdemeanor” in addition to an attempted usurpation of “legislative power”.

As established above, Obama’s actions not only violated the written text of our Constitution, but the context in which it was written and its “legislative intent”. And what is the most fundamental rule with regard to constitutional construction?


The fundamental principle of constitutional construction is that effect must be given to the intent of the framers of the organic law and of the people adopting it. This is the polestar in the construction of constitutions, all other principles of construction are only rules or guides to aid in the determination of the intention of the constitution’s framers.--- numerous citations omitted__ Vol.16 American Jurisprudence, 2d Constitutional law (1992 edition), pages 418-19 - - - Par. 92. Intent of framers and adopters as controlling.

JWK



"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law (1858)
 
Obama has violated the constitution, His oath to the office of his Presidency, our country and we the people he Represents.

I'm shocked how he acts and thinks nothing of how we the people feels about it.

frikken thug community agitator punk ass. He was raised in a privileged life, groomed to become President for one reason, HIS SKIN COLOR and he's an uncaring ass so he can push the progressive agenda down our throats so they can SCREECH racist on anything you disagree with or criticize him on and thinks he is just THE GAWD of all men
 
"Has Obama violated both the text and intent of our Constitution with immigration?"

No.

But you've managed to violate both logic and reason with this loaded question fallacy.

Well done.
 
Has Obama violated both the text and intent of our Constitution with immigration?


Yes, just as he did with health care, oil drilling, the IRS, the NSA, and a number of other programs.
 
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Ugh, no. He has violated neither the text nor the intent of the constitution. He has exercised the intended checks-and-balances between the branches of government. Congress needs to start doing the same. Time to stop bitching about executive action and start doing some legislative action. We have both houses, get some fucking work done.
 
Ugh, no. He has violated neither the text nor the intent of the constitution. He has exercised the intended checks-and-balances between the branches of government. Congress needs to start doing the same. Time to stop bitching about executive action and start doing some legislative action. We have both houses, get some fucking work done.

Of course he did! Where are the LEGAL scholars?

Immigration Reform Control Act of 1986 "NOTICE TO CONGRESS BEFORE IMPLEMENTING CHANGES" (Required)

Government Printing Office ^

"(3) NOTICE TO CONGRESS BEFORE IMPLEMENTING CHANGES.— "(A) IN GENERAL.—The President may not implement any change under paragraph (1) unless at least— "(i) 60 days, "(ii) one year, in the case of a major change described in subparagraph (D)(iii), or "(iii) two years, in the case of a major change described in clause (i) or (ii) of subparagraph (D), before the date of implementation of the change, the President has prepared and transmitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives and to the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate a written report setting forth the...
 
.” Additionally, and with respect to naturalization, it declares that Congress, not our president, shall have power “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization . . . ” )


Naturalization has NOTHING to do with immigration.

Naturalizaton is the process by which a citizen of , for example, New York becomes a US Citizen.

At the time the Constitution (1787) was adopted the STATES WERE SOVEREIGN. THEY ***RETAINED***THE POWER TO CONTROL ALIENS WITHIN THEIR BORDERS .


"In discussing this question, we must not confound the rights of citizenship which a State may confer within its own limits and the rights of citizenship as a member of the Union. It does not by any means follow, because he has all the rights and privileges of a citizen of a State, that he must be a citizen of the United States. He may have all of the rights and privileges of the citizen of a State and yet not be entitled to the rights and privileges of a citizen in any other State. For, previous to the adoption of the Constitution of the United States, every State had the undoubted right to confer on whomsoever it pleased the character of citizen, and to endow him with all its rights. But this character, of course, was confined to the boundaries of the State, and gave him no rights or privileges in other States beyond those secured to him by the laws of nations and the comity of States. Nor have the several States surrendered the power of conferring these rights and privileges by adopting the Constitution of the United States. Each State may still confer them upon an alien, or anyone it thinks proper, or upon any class or description of persons, yet he would not be a citizen in the sense in which that word is used in the Constitution of the United States, nor entitled to sue as such in one of its courts, nor to the privileges and immunities of a citizen in the other States. The rights which he would acquire would be restricted to the State which gave them. "


Scott v. Sandford
60 U.S. 393 (1856)


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Nope, he hasn't. He took action via prioritizing, and has tried to get Congress to do their job, and to get Congress to do something on immigration reform....

But the republicans are clearly fine with Obama's actions and are not going to do anything, do anything at all, about it....and have chosen to ignore our immigration problems and Obama's prioritizing /actions.

The laws written by congress on immigration, did NOT SPECIFY who was going to be deported 1st, 2nd or last and handed this authority over to INS... if Congress does not want INS to focus on deporting felons, gangsters, drug dealers etc. first, and wants to focus on deporting the illegal parents of American citizen children first, then Congress needs to reform the law and not give the discretion of who to concentrate on deporting, to INS, as it stands now.... or fund the deportation of ALL illegals....which they have never done.
 
Obama sold us out to the highest bidder, MEXICO and the Mexican traitors in congress. what a guy he cares more for illegal immigrants than his own people
 
Giving work permits to illegals is manifestly a case of writing a law. No way "prosecutorial discretion" justifies that.

And , like previous presidents, he violates the constitution on the rare occasions when he deports an illegal since the tenth amendment makes it clear that deportation is a state function.
 
Giving work permits to illegals is manifestly a case of writing a law. No way "prosecutorial discretion" justifies that.

And , like previous presidents, he violates the constitution on the rare occasions when he deports an illegal since the tenth amendment makes it clear that deportation is a state function.



EXACTLY.
 
Nope, he hasn't. He took action via prioritizing, and has tried to get Congress to do their job, and to get Congress to do something on immigration reform....

But the republicans are clearly fine with Obama's actions and are not going to do anything, do anything at all, about it....and have chosen to ignore our immigration problems and Obama's prioritizing /actions.

The laws written by congress on immigration, did NOT SPECIFY who was going to be deported 1st, 2nd or last and handed this authority over to INS... if Congress does not want INS to focus on deporting felons, gangsters, drug dealers etc. first, and wants to focus on deporting the illegal parents of American citizen children first, then Congress needs to reform the law and not give the discretion of who to concentrate on deporting, to INS, as it stands now.... or fund the deportation of ALL illegals....which they have never done.

Priority? Do we let the president grant exemptions to our murder or rape or robbery statutes? It's always been understood that when a law is passed, it applies to everyone in the country. But obozo grants exemptions to MILLIONS of foreign invaders.

Every known illegal should be deported. No exceptions. THINK
 
Nope, he hasn't. He took action via prioritizing, and has tried to get Congress to do their job, and to get Congress to do something on immigration reform....

But the republicans are clearly fine with Obama's actions and are not going to do anything, do anything at all, about it....and have chosen to ignore our immigration problems and Obama's prioritizing /actions.

The laws written by congress on immigration, did NOT SPECIFY who was going to be deported 1st, 2nd or last and handed this authority over to INS... if Congress does not want INS to focus on deporting felons, gangsters, drug dealers etc. first, and wants to focus on deporting the illegal parents of American citizen children first, then Congress needs to reform the law and not give the discretion of who to concentrate on deporting, to INS, as it stands now.... or fund the deportation of ALL illegals....which they have never done.

Priority? Do we let the president grant exemptions to our murder or rape or robbery statutes? It's always been understood that when a law is passed, it applies to everyone in the country. But obozo grants exemptions to MILLIONS of foreign invaders.

Every known illegal should be deported. No exceptions. THINK


The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and the name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it; an unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed ... An unconstitutional law is void.


(16 Am. Jur. 2d, Sec. 178)
 
Priority? Do we let the president grant exemptions to our murder or rape or robbery statutes?

Yes, it's called a pardon.

HAHAHA. Are you saying obozo has issued pardons to millions of illegals??? He didn't do that, you ignorant fool. If he did, there would be hell to pay anyway, but he didn't. Instead he said he's just not going to enforce the law for millions of confessed violators. Read the papers.
 
When Patriots Restore the Rule of Law, I'm using the Utah NSA Spy Center to find the IP's of all the subversive people within the US that spread propaganda to deliberately cripple this Nation and it's Constitution. You're all going to jail for life unless you repent in public and admit what you did, and sear never again to betray your People.
 

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