Has Obama abandoned Israel?

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a zionist hate thread. I guess this is about is shocking as slave master with a whip.


*yawn*
 
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a zionist hate thread. I guess this is about is shocking as slave master with a whip.


*yawn*
you sound tired...... just getting home from work??.....next time you are carrying a television walk don't run!!!
 
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a zionist hate thread. I guess this is about is shocking as slave master with a whip.


*yawn*
you sound tired...... just getting home from work??.....next time you are carrying a television walk don't run!!!
what has Israel done to garner such hatred from the left??
the simple answer is that Christianity was derived from Judaism !! and libbs hate Christians so much that they are willing to abandon the most democratic country in the entire middle east !!in Israel you have freedom of religion !!
 
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you sound tired...... just getting home from work??.....next time you are carrying a television walk don't run!!!
what has Israel done to garner such hatred from the left??
the simple answer is that Christianity was derived from Judaism !! and libbs hate Christians so much that they are willing to abandon the most democratic country in the entire middle east !!in Israel you have freedom of religion !![/QUOTE]

Libtards hate America and Israel is the America of the East.
 
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you sound tired...... just getting home from work??.....next time you are carrying a television walk don't run!!!
what has Israel done to garner such hatred from the left??
the simple answer is that Christianity was derived from Judaism !! and libbs hate Christians so much that they are willing to abandon the most democratic country in the entire middle east !!in Israel you have freedom of religion !!
Very true but even though I have my theories on the lefts hatred for Israel I still don't understand why they support Muslims ..

Libtards hate America and Israel is the America of the East.[/QUOTE]
 
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what has Israel done to garner such hatred from the left??
the simple answer is that Christianity was derived from Judaism !! and libbs hate Christians so much that they are willing to abandon the most democratic country in the entire middle east !!in Israel you have freedom of religion !!
Very true but even though I have my theories on the lefts hatred for Israel I still don't understand why they support Muslims ..

Libtards hate America and Israel is the America of the East.
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Muslims hate America like Libtards hate America so they have common cause.
 
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what has Israel done to garner such hatred from the left??
the simple answer is that Christianity was derived from Judaism !! and libbs hate Christians so much that they are willing to abandon the most democratic country in the entire middle east !!in Israel you have freedom of religion !!
Very true but even though I have my theories on the lefts hatred for Israel I still don't understand why they support Muslims ..

Libtards hate America and Israel is the America of the East.
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The Anti-Zionist Zeitgeist from the Far Left has spilled over to the Middle left .
 
[QTE=yidnar;4262818]the simple answer is that Christianity was derived from Judaism !! and libbs hate Christians so much that they are willing to abandon the most democratic country in the entire middle east !!in Israel you have freedom of religion !!
Very true but even though I have my theories on the lefts hatred for Israel I still don't understand why they support Muslims ..

Libtards hate America and Israel is the America of the East.

Muslims hate America like Libtards hate America so they have common cause.[/QUOTE]the enemy of my enemy belief ....you may be right !!!
 
with recent demands by the Obama administration demanding Israel to go back to pre 1967 boundaries among many other slights has the Obama administration given Israel a pro Muslim,anti Israel cold shoulder??

I think it would be more accurate to say Obama abandoned the Palestinians, if you take his speech to the UN which was totally biased towards Israel and has lost him all credibility as a genuine peace partner. I don't believe that is his genuine position though. I think he genuinely would like to help create a just peace there based on what he said when Netanyahu went to the US which Netanyahu rejected and the rejection of which the house of reps on all sides applauded - of course Obama was not in that speech going against Israel. He was saying the same as every other President since Oslo.

I note some republicans in their nomination speeches are now talking of letting Israel do whatever she wants, pretty much encouraging her to take over all the West Bank.

Alan Hart said some months ago that Obama had asked the Palestinians to leave their UN demand for a state until after the next presidential election. I don't know if this is true or not but I go along with the people who believed that Obama was not being true to himself in his speech to the UN and that he genuinely would have liked to move towards peace. I don't believe the Republicans do and I don't believe that is any more good for ordinary Israeli's than it is for Palestinians but when part of your world view is to keep in perpetual war, then where the hell does the need for peace and justice come in. Just find some argument to make yourself the good guy, create an Islam hating culture and call those who disagree appeasing 'islamofascism'. Even better team up with the far right of Europe and you've got your little game going for some time.

On the way you will lose genuine left wing liberal Jews. This has already been happening for some time This is nothing to do with antisemitism. It is opposition to the networking of the far right.

On a rare foray outside his native Texas, Governor Rick Perry accused US President Barack Obama of "appeasement" towards the Palestinians.

Former New York City Mayor Edward Koch supported a Catholic Republican congressional candidate against a Jewish Democrat in New York, because the Republican supports Israel through thick and thin - and because Obama had voiced reservations about Israel's expansion of settlements on the West Bank. In Koch's words, Obama "threw Israel under the bus". The Republican won.

-snip-

Provoked, in part, by Arab neighbours' hostility and Palestinian leaders' intransigence, Israel began to turn sharply to the right. This was also the result of demographic changes: Middle Eastern Jews were more viscerally anti-Arab than their European brethren, and Jewish immigrants from Russia were viscerally anti-left. Moreover, the number of Orthodox Jews continued to grow apace.

As a result, the European liberal left lost its sympathy for Israel, and the country acquired a new set of friends among the right - even the far right.

European right-wing populists, including some who represent parties with a strong anti-Semitic past, now proudly proclaim their support for Israeli settlers on Palestinian land. And, in the US, a peculiar alliance of Jewish hardliners and evangelical Christians, who believe that all Jews must eventually return to the Holy Land and convert to Christianity, has become the main base of support for Israel.

This has created a very odd situation. Right-wing politicians from the American South, together with Austrian, German, French, and Dutch populists, are accusing liberals of appeasing "Islamofascism". These political heirs of deeply racist traditions are the new champions of a Jewish state, whose policies now owe more to nineteenth-century ethnic chauvinism than to Zionism's socialist roots.

Obama's Israel problem - Opinion - Al Jazeera English

Too many people have chosen the blue Matrix pill.
 
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with recent demands by the Obama administration demanding Israel to go back to pre 1967 boundaries among many other slights has the Obama administration given Israel a pro Muslim,anti Israel cold shoulder??

I think it would be more accurate to say Obama abandoned the Palestinians,

Since Jews were called Palestinians during the British Mandate prior to Israeli statehood, who are your Palestinians?

If you even know, I'll give you a cookie? :clap2:
 
with recent demands by the Obama administration demanding Israel to go back to pre 1967 boundaries among many other slights has the Obama administration given Israel a pro Muslim,anti Israel cold shoulder??

I think it would be more accurate to say Obama abandoned the Palestinians, if you take his speech to the UN which was totally biased towards Israel and has lost him all credibility as a genuine peace partner. I don't believe that is his genuine position though. I think he genuinely would like to help create a just peace there based on what he said when Netanyahu went to the US which Netanyahu rejected and the rejection of which the house of reps on all sides applauded - of course Obama was not in that speech going against Israel. He was saying the same as every other President since Oslo.

I note some republicans in their nomination speeches are now talking of letting Israel do whatever she wants, pretty much encouraging her to take over all the West Bank.

Alan Hart said some months ago that Obama had asked the Palestinians to leave their UN demand for a state until after the next presidential election. I don't know if this is true or not but I go along with the people who believed that Obama was not being true to himself in his speech to the UN and that he genuinely would have liked to move towards peace. I don't believe the Republicans do and I don't believe that is any more good for ordinary Israeli's than it is for Palestinians but when part of your world view is to keep in perpetual war, then where the hell does the need for peace and justice come in. Just find some argument to make yourself the good guy, create an Islam hating culture and call those who disagree appeasing 'islamofascism'. Even better team up with the far right of Europe and you've got your little game going for some time.

On the way you will lose genuine left wing liberal Jews. This has already been happening for some time This is nothing to do with antisemitism. It is opposition to the networking of the far right.

On a rare foray outside his native Texas, Governor Rick Perry accused US President Barack Obama of "appeasement" towards the Palestinians.

Former New York City Mayor Edward Koch supported a Catholic Republican congressional candidate against a Jewish Democrat in New York, because the Republican supports Israel through thick and thin - and because Obama had voiced reservations about Israel's expansion of settlements on the West Bank. In Koch's words, Obama "threw Israel under the bus". The Republican won.

-snip-

Provoked, in part, by Arab neighbours' hostility and Palestinian leaders' intransigence, Israel began to turn sharply to the right. This was also the result of demographic changes: Middle Eastern Jews were more viscerally anti-Arab than their European brethren, and Jewish immigrants from Russia were viscerally anti-left. Moreover, the number of Orthodox Jews continued to grow apace.

As a result, the European liberal left lost its sympathy for Israel, and the country acquired a new set of friends among the right - even the far right.

European right-wing populists, including some who represent parties with a strong anti-Semitic past, now proudly proclaim their support for Israeli settlers on Palestinian land. And, in the US, a peculiar alliance of Jewish hardliners and evangelical Christians, who believe that all Jews must eventually return to the Holy Land and convert to Christianity, has become the main base of support for Israel.

This has created a very odd situation. Right-wing politicians from the American South, together with Austrian, German, French, and Dutch populists, are accusing liberals of appeasing "Islamofascism". These political heirs of deeply racist traditions are the new champions of a Jewish state, whose policies now owe more to nineteenth-century ethnic chauvinism than to Zionism's socialist roots.

Obama's Israel problem - Opinion - Al Jazeera English

Too many people have chosen the blue Matrix pill.
Israel promotes freedom of religion ,it is against the law to mistreat women and conduct honor killings !!! you are a left wing Islamic sympathizer and nothing more !!
 

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