Happy Labor Day, There is power in the Union!!

[Moonglow]

Those who don't want to be in a union, don't get a job that's a union job. But stop trying to destroy unions for those who want to be in one. I will never understand why you people believe you have the right to tell everyone how to live. You can't be happy to have the freedom to live as you choose, you need to force your way of life on everyone.

You only seem to believe you and those who agree with you have any freedom to choose how to live.

You have it exactly backwards. Unions try to force themselves onto those that don't even want them, even fighting right to work laws. They embed themselves into the public sector and work against those that employ them. The main problem with that is that we can't do business elsewhere. And they use your dues to promote Democrat candidates, perhaps also against your wishes.

I also fail to see how the union made your contract with insurance right. It should be spelled out what they cover an don't cover. If you needed a lawyer you would have been reimbursed if you were in the right.

Cop unions have thrown in with the GOP since Reagan, next lie...

 

[Manonthestreet]

Survey Reveals Most Teamster Pension Funds in “Red Zone” http://www.tdu.org/news/survey-reveals-most-teamster-pension-funds-“red-zone”

 

[dannyboys]

But wait! Hoffa and his 'people' got a 24 hour hard-on when BOBO was elected.
Why not?
A true Socialist/Marxist. (OK he's a ****** but 'forget about it).
Turned out BOBO couldn't get fuck all done visa vi advancing the 'union label'.
Turned out BOBO couldn't get fuck all done for help ANY of his base.
Turned out James et al had bet on the wrong pony.
Now James et al are telling their members to vote REP next time.
BOBO never sat in a single union contract negotiation. Never in a board meeting.
The idiot the 'OJ jury' elected turned out to be what a union shop would have had working cleaning the toilets.

 

[Peach]

Brought to you by the folks who gave you the weekend!

and the 40 hour work week, overtime , holidays off an sick days paid !!

You left out the people who helped stop child labor, unsanitary and dangerous work conditions, neutral oversight of workplace safety*, etc.

*Sago Mine shows how well "industry self policing" works.

 

[Iceweasel]

Cop unions have thrown in with the GOP since Reagan, next lie...

Golly, that eliminates ALL the other Democrat connections. What a genius. Also, there's more than one "cop" union.

 

[Geaux4it]

Wait, the unions threw Obama under the bus. I forgot. Good on them!

 

[Geaux4it]

 

[dannyboys]

Survey Reveals Most Teamster Pension Funds in “Red Zone” http://www.tdu.org/news/survey-reveals-most-teamster-pension-funds-“red-zone”

How many times did the writer claim the Teamsters had nothing to do with the problem in the article? HA HAH!
The writer of the OP better start looking for a job writing obituaries. He did an excellent job.
The Teamsters have been the number one leader in 'shaking down' businesses just like their cousins in the Mafia taught them. And the unions are quickly going the way of the Mafia.
Good fucking riddance to bad rubbish!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Cop unions have thrown in with the GOP since Reagan, next lie...

Golly, that eliminates ALL the other Democrat connections. What a genius. Also, there's more than one "cop" union.

At least some police departments are Teamsters!

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Unions? aka; career sinkers?

-Geaux

Yeah, screw unions. Let's go back to 15-hour days, child labor, and wages that won't pay for a week's groceries.

Let's have 'em jumping out the windows when the factory catches on fire. That's cheaper than keeping the stairwells open and the doors unlocked.

Heck, with all the technological strides made in prosthesis limbs, these kids could lose a foot or hand and be back at work in less than a month!

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Hey, the folks willing to work for less money won out. I'm not hurting. I have a hell of a phone, a 720 hd ish tv and a Windows XP computer. Not to mention I can do websites, type pretty well, do some Excel visual basic, operate a forklift, put up decent numbers when forced onto the sale floor and have another decade plus of physical laborin me!

What's your boss's number? Perhaps I'm interested in underbidding you for your job? That's just how capitalism works. No pride in the fact some Americans are hungry enough to work for less.

I'm self employed so I live there. Maybe everyone in America should be self employed, it forces you to not be dependent on others or expect someone else to take up the slack. Entrepreneurship would reign supreme and maybe some of those jobs lost to high labor demands, high taxes and overbearing regulations and would come back.

The internet that you are using right now could not have been invented, developed and expanded by one person.

Jobs went overseas because American corporations discovered they could exploit the hell out of poor countries, extract every last fucking drop from them and then move on.

Google Ethiopia and how manufacturing is moving there from China. Why? Because the Chinese are demanding higher wages. Higher than .30 an hour, you stupid fucking idiot.

 

[Toronado3800]

Unions have destroyed themselves....... notice nobody answered why they are so unpopular......

I would venture to say in a way we all joined unions by electing government officials who have made union won off days and comlansation the law. Then the elected officials nominated judges who do things like let you sue your employer over unsafe conditions or if your boss grabs your *ss.

Now the threat of unionizing and the threat of legal retaliation is enough to keep companies at what, a 1960's standard of recognizing human rights?

Oh yeah, we could argue Pinkertons and stong men then organized crime till we are blue.

 

[Manonthestreet]

and if you belong to govt union I urge you to check on your retirement fund status.....dont think your buddies in govt arent spending it if they can get away with it. Feds were always after my Dads....locals are no better.

 

[Iceweasel]

Hey, the folks willing to work for less money won out. I'm not hurting. I have a hell of a phone, a 720 hd ish tv and a Windows XP computer. Not to mention I can do websites, type pretty well, do some Excel visual basic, operate a forklift, put up decent numbers when forced onto the sale floor and have another decade plus of physical laborin me!

What's your boss's number? Perhaps I'm interested in underbidding you for your job? That's just how capitalism works. No pride in the fact some Americans are hungry enough to work for less.

I'm self employed so I live there. Maybe everyone in America should be self employed, it forces you to not be dependent on others or expect someone else to take up the slack. Entrepreneurship would reign supreme and maybe some of those jobs lost to high labor demands, high taxes and overbearing regulations and would come back.

The internet that you are using right now could not have been invented, developed and expanded by one person.

Jobs went overseas because American corporations discovered they could exploit the hell out of poor countries, extract every last fucking drop from them and then move on.

Google Ethiopia and how manufacturing is moving there from China. Why? Because the Chinese are demanding higher wages. Higher than .30 an hour, you stupid fucking idiot.

You've obviously never heard of subcontractors. Wow. And you're calling others idiots?

There are numerous factors why American businesses have fled (or died). The high cost of doing business is certainly one of them. Your hysteria about going back to industrial revolution days can't happen due to all of the laws in place. Unions helped to do that, but they grew power mad and made it about the union first no matter the consequences.

 

[Dana7360]

For all of you who don't like unions, stop getting on a commercial airplane.

There are only 2 major commercial airplane manufacturers left in the world. That would be Boeing and airbus.

Boeing is a private capitalist company in America where the majority of their work force is in a union. In my state, all the employees of Boeing are a member of a union. With the exception of the ceo and executives.

airbus is a socialist company owned and financially supported by the EU. There is nothing capitalistic about the company. It's all government owned. Their employees are members of unions. They are building a plant in Alabama which isn't open yet. The union is going to organize the workers. Airbus doesn't object. It will be the republican politicians who will object and lie through their teeth. Just as they did in Tenn. Which didn't work out well for the republicans because now the workers at that plant are angry with the republicans who lied to them.

So you can either fly on a plane made by European socialists in a union or fly on a plane made by American union workers.

If you don't like unions. Stop flying on commercial flights.

 

[Iceweasel]

For all of you who don't like unions, stop getting on a commercial airplane.

There are only 2 major commercial airplane manufacturers left in the world. That would be Boeing and airbus.

Boeing is a private capitalist company in America where the majority of their work force is in a union. In my state, all the employees of Boeing are a member of a union. With the exception of the ceo and executives.

airbus is a socialist company owned and financially supported by the EU. There is nothing capitalistic about the company. It's all government owned. Their employees are members of unions. They are building a plant in Alabama which isn't open yet. The union is going to organize the workers. Airbus doesn't object. It will be the republican politicians who will object and lie through their teeth. Just as they did in Tenn. Which didn't work out well for the republicans because now the workers at that plant are angry with the republicans who lied to them.

So you can either fly on a plane made by European socialists in a union or fly on a plane made by American union workers.

If you don't like unions. Stop flying on commercial flights.

I did. It sucks so bad I'd rather walk.

 

[Godboy]

Unions? aka; career sinkers?

-Geaux

Or the ones that ensured your kids went to school instead of working, gave you weekends and paid you more for going over 40 hours of work?

Yeah horrible things.

Just because once upon a time they did something good, doesn't excuse ALL the bad they have done, particularly recently. Unions have caused more damage to this nation than any other threat weve ever faced.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Thread is example of why unions dont thrive, they are hostile to and contemptuous of anyone not in a union and assume therefore you are anti-union. Just makes ya wanna run right out and sign up.

 

[Jarlaxle]

For all of you who don't like unions, stop getting on a commercial airplane.

There are only 2 major commercial airplane manufacturers left in the world. That would be Boeing and airbus.

Boeing is a private capitalist company in America where the majority of their work force is in a union. In my state, all the employees of Boeing are a member of a union. With the exception of the ceo and executives.

airbus is a socialist company owned and financially supported by the EU. There is nothing capitalistic about the company. It's all government owned. Their employees are members of unions. They are building a plant in Alabama which isn't open yet. The union is going to organize the workers. Airbus doesn't object. It will be the republican politicians who will object and lie through their teeth. Just as they did in Tenn. Which didn't work out well for the republicans because now the workers at that plant are angry with the republicans who lied to them.

So you can either fly on a plane made by European socialists in a union or fly on a plane made by American union workers.

If you don't like unions. Stop flying on commercial flights.

I did. It sucks so bad I'd rather walk.

Won't fly commercially...not worth the hassle. If I can't drive somewhere, I do not need to be there!

 

[dannyboys]

Unions were needed back when. No doubt.
But we live in a Capitalist society and like it or not that's the way it's going to stay.
Unions at their heart are socialist leaning. That's not news.
Unions are very fast becoming a thing of the past. Their association with the Mafia has not helped.
At the rate union membership is declining there will be no unions in the US within a decade.
I predict that the bulk of union leaders now in the country will be leaving their sinking ship like rats and will relocate to more socialist leaning countries where unions are still tolerated depending on the political climate.
If the NDP ever take power in Canada for instance, there will be a five mile long line-up of 'union leaders' wanting to move to Canada.