Happy Birthday, Jefferson Davis

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    Jefferson Davis was born June 3, 1808, and he was the first and only President of the Confederate States of America. He believed in peace, free trade, and the American idea of self-government.

    "All we ask is to be let alone." - Jefferson Davis
     
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    And slavery!
     
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    Both Davis and Lincoln were born in KY.
    The only state to have both a north and south state capitol at the same time.
     
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    Yes, the Confederacy practiced slavery, as did the Union. Neither side has the moral high ground on that issue.
     
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    Call the boys...Yeee haw its JD's Birfday
     
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    Are you serious?! The union, led by Abraham Lincoln and 350,000 dead union soldiers don't have the moral high ground on the issue of slavery? I realize that not everyone in the north was a saint that went off to war to end the suffering of the black man but that is what it was all about and I think the USA can most assuredly claim the moral high ground over the traitors from the CSA.
     
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    Delaware, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, and Missouri were all slave states that remained in the Union. If it was all about the "suffering of the black man," then why didn't Lincoln end slavery in those states?
     
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    In the middle of a war where they could defect to the other side... hmm, I do wonder why.
     
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    But....

    Wasn't he a traitor? And specifically, a traitor who seceded from the United States of America because he and others like him did not want to give up their "right" to have have millions of Africans work unlimited hours, for free, for their own personal profit?

    The secession led to a war that cost 600,000+ United States lives...

    Why should I wish him happy birthday exactly?
     
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    Or maybe we could look at what Lincoln actually said instead.

    "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."

    Lincoln only "freed" the slaves because he wanted to undermine the Confederacy. The border states weren't in the Confederacy, thus no reason to free their slaves.
     

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