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In memorable words of Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."How do you see your claim to the land as superior to the ethnically cleansed Palestinians and their descendants?
In memorable words of Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."How do you see your claim to the land as superior to the ethnically cleansed Palestinians and their descendants?
Jewish development projects are a known attraction to arab immigrants from the hood.
Sherri is so obsessed with Palestine (it was actually the Jews who were called Palestinians, and if you called an Arab that, he would be insulted because it would be like calling him a Jew) that I wonder if she could tell us who manned the Palestine Exhibit at the World's Fair in 1940 in New York. Could she tell us what the Jerusalem Post was previously called? Meanwhile, as a 'good Christian' she doesn't seem to have a problem with the Arabs leaving the Saudi Peninsula and invading the surrounding countries, killing so many of the people living there (who were Christians, like the Copts, Assyrians and Chaldeans) who refused to convert. I suggest that Sherri learn some history about what happened in the past.Youre obviously don't know anything, if you say that.
Taking that to mind, let me teach you a small history lesson of my family.
My mother's original family name, before it became my own, and my grandfathers, was originally Mogilevsky. my greatgrandfather was a simple Russian Jewish farmer.
In 1882, A Rabbi from Hobebei Zion wrote to Baron Rothschild about an idea to take Jewish farmers out of Russia to recreat Israel. The Baron Rothschild adopted the idea, and took in 11 religious Jewish farmers, and braught them over. They were all experienced in agriculture.
One of those farmer families was the family of Mogilevsky. They helped creating a small colony, later on known as "Mazkeret Batya" in 1883. Google it, Mr Tinmore did it himself, so can you.
I will never lie about something like that. I don't play with my family's honor, which is one of the most important things to me.
in the Tarpat events (1929) a nearby field was attacked, so did their own fields, they were forced to leave, and their original home and lands were never returned to them, they were forced to leave their homes after the fire and theft.
In Today's Mazkeret Batya, the only evidence of my family's history there is a fading picture of My GreatGrandfather, in the local Museum.
That is the ONLY evidence of our family ever EXISTING in that place.
During the first aliyah more then 30,000 Jews immigrated to our homeland. more then 50 thousand in General after that wave. That even before the Aliyah wave in 1890. after the second Aliyah , nearly 90,000 Jews were in Israel. Hardly what you call 10%.
Doing some stuying now, perhaps?
They helped creating a small colony, later on known as "Mazkeret Batya" in 1883.
You do realize that y'all would be Palestinians even by the Palestinians own definition.
Lipush,
I do not know what to think about your story, you say you were born Latina and nonJewish and adoped, thus becoming Jewish through your adoped parents, and claim ties to the land dating back to the 1880's through your adopted parent's ancestors.
One thing you stated is not correct, if I am reading what you wrote to say Jews made up greater than 10% of the population of Palestine in the 1880's. This is not correct.
From land records of Palestine, reported in UN Records, I read about the makeup of the population of Palestine in the 1920's, (from 1920 through 1930) the 1920's began with the Jewish population less than 10% of the population of Palestine.
Thus during the decade about 100,000 Jewish immigrants entered Palestine, far short of the numbers envisaged by the Zionist Organization, but substantial enough to make a marked impact in a country where the total population in 1922 was officially estimated at about 750,000. 69/ In absolute terms the Jewish population more than doubled, and in percentage terms rose from below 10 per cent to over 17 per cent during this period
The Origins and Evolution of the Palestine Problem - CEIRPP, DPR study, part I: 1917-1947 (30 June 1978)
One thing I do find myself thinking about here, you only have a claim to the land through an adoption.
How do you see your claim to the land as superior to the ethnically cleansed Palestinians and their descendants?
What makes your rights superior to their rights in the land?
I am not saying you have no rights to live in the land, but what about the rights of the ethnically cleansed Palestinians, what about their rights?
Sherri
Funny, even wikipedia says otherwise.What this clown failed to notice is that the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1947.In memorable words of Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."How do you see your claim to the land as superior to the ethnically cleansed Palestinians and their descendants?
Jewish development projects are a known attraction to arab immigrants from the hood.
Funny, even wikipedia says otherwise.What this clown failed to notice is that the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1947.In memorable words of Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Jewish development projects are a known attraction to arab immigrants from the hood.
Got strychnine?Funny, even wikipedia says otherwise.What this clown failed to notice is that the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1947.
Wikipedia says that the Arab population was not about 93% at the turn of the century and about 65% by 1947?
Got a link?
Where'd they go?In memorable words of Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."How do you see your claim to the land as superior to the ethnically cleansed Palestinians and their descendants?
Jewish development projects are a known attraction to arab immigrants from the hood.
What this clown failed to notice is that the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1947.
Where'd they go?In memorable words of Winnie Churchill "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Jewish development projects are a known attraction to arab immigrants from the hood.
What this clown failed to notice is that the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1947.
Not to learn but to teach.Where'd they go?What this clown failed to notice is that the Arab population declined from about 93% at the turn of the century to about 65% by 1947.
Why do you post here? Surely it is not t learn anything.
Not to learn but to teach.Where'd they go?
Why do you post here? Surely it is not t learn anything.
Taught.....er, ran a lot of stuff by you but you won't absorb anything. You're a waste of time and effort.Not to learn but to teach.Why do you post here? Surely it is not t learn anything.
Don't you have to know something first?
Taught.....er, ran a lot of stuff by you but you won't absorb anything. You're a waste of time and effort.Not to learn but to teach.
Don't you have to know something first?
Peace will happen when Israel gives up its occupation. I agree that sadly won't happen.
What you call "stopping the occupation" means Israel should give up existence and simply let the Arabs destroy it.
That of course won't happen.
And niether "peace" between Arabs and Jews happen in that case.
Please stop trying to fool us here.
What you call "stopping the occupation" means Israel should give up existence and simply let the Arabs destroy it.
Where did you get those opinions?
What you call "stopping the occupation" means Israel should give up existence and simply let the Arabs destroy it.
That of course won't happen.
And niether "peace" between Arabs and Jews happen in that case.
Please stop trying to fool us here.
What you call "stopping the occupation" means Israel should give up existence and simply let the Arabs destroy it.
Where did you get those opinions?
Mostly from you, that is what you have made me understand.
Havn't you said before that accepting Israel's right of existence equals "accepting the rights of the Jews to occupy all of Palestine"?
All of Palestine, as in Tel Aviv and Hertzliya?
Because "palestine" is a rather common hallucination among certain folks.OK, so why are those places inside Palestine's borders but not inside Israel's borders?
Peace will happen when Israel gives up its occupation. I agree that sadly won't happen.
If the beggars and squatters mistakenly called "Palestinians" will cede land rightfully belonging to Israel, this matter can be resolved.
Hollie,
With the comments you come up with when you try to address the substantive issues, I now fully understand why you try to avoid the substantive issues.
The only squatters are the 500,000+ illegal Jewish settlers living in the Occupied PalestinianTerritories.
There are no beggars, according to Christians working there, there are not even homeless Palestinians. The people take care of one another. This topic was addressed by David Hosey in his blogs , he is a Methodist who spent three years working in Palestine with Sabeel.
UN humanitarian groups and other intl NGO's have to intervene to help Palestinians, to keep Israel from starving them of all their basic needs required to maintain human life.
ReliefWeb tracks humanitarian crisis all over the world, including the humanitarian crisis the Occupation forces the Occupied Palestinian population to live in.
I read:
The Monthly Humanitarian Monitor - occupied Palestinian territory, May 2012
Report UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs
The results of the 2012 Socio-Economic and Food Security survey, released this month, indicate that 27 percent of the population in the oPt (about 1.3 million people) were food insecure in 2011. Albeit high, this represents a six and nine percentage points decrease compared with the equivalent figures for 2010 and 2009, respectively. To a large extent, this can be attributed to the increased levels of economic activity recorded in 2011, as well as improved targeting of food assistance interventions
http://reliefweb.int/node/505629
It is obvious that, but for intl interventions, people would be starving to death in Occupied Palestine.
And back to your comment, the issues in Palestine are about Isreal's unlawful possession of Palestinian lands, not Palestinian's unlawful possession of Israeli lands. You have the facts completely backwards.
Sherri
If the beggars and squatters mistakenly called "Palestinians" will cede land rightfully belonging to Israel, this matter can be resolved.
Hollie,
With the comments you come up with when you try to address the substantive issues, I now fully understand why you try to avoid the substantive issues.
The only squatters are the 500,000+ illegal Jewish settlers living in the Occupied PalestinianTerritories.
There are no beggars, according to Christians working there, there are not even homeless Palestinians. The people take care of one another. This topic was addressed by David Hosey in his blogs , he is a Methodist who spent three years working in Palestine with Sabeel.
UN humanitarian groups and other intl NGO's have to intervene to help Palestinians, to keep Israel from starving them of all their basic needs required to maintain human life.
ReliefWeb tracks humanitarian crisis all over the world, including the humanitarian crisis the Occupation forces the Occupied Palestinian population to live in.
I read:
The Monthly Humanitarian Monitor - occupied Palestinian territory, May 2012
Report UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs
The results of the 2012 Socio-Economic and Food Security survey, released this month, indicate that 27 percent of the population in the oPt (about 1.3 million people) were food insecure in 2011. Albeit high, this represents a six and nine percentage points decrease compared with the equivalent figures for 2010 and 2009, respectively. To a large extent, this can be attributed to the increased levels of economic activity recorded in 2011, as well as improved targeting of food assistance interventions
http://reliefweb.int/node/505629
It is obvious that, but for intl interventions, people would be starving to death in Occupied Palestine.
And back to your comment, the issues in Palestine are about Isreal's unlawful possession of Palestinian lands, not Palestinian's unlawful possession of Israeli lands. You have the facts completely backwards.
Sherri
I'm sorry for you that placing blame on others for corruption, thievery and incompetence on the part of the Islamic terrorists elected to manage the Palestinians is your primary goal.
If Palestinians are starving, we might consider demanding an accounting of where billions of dollars of welfare money showered on the Palestinian beggars and squatters has been spent. Do you think it's odd that luxury malls are springing up on land occupied by the pal/Arab squatters when, as you claim, these squatters are going hungry? Do you believe that it is up to the international community to continue to shower these people with more welfare money that will only be squandered?
I'm afraid your frantic Jew hatred has clouded any ability to reach meaningful conclusions.
But of course, they are! Thieves? Stealing jewish history, for example. Arabs did not think twice, when they wanted to relieve jews a number of times of what was jewish. And as we fully expect arabs to behave, they fall back on the status quo ante, meaning they behave like a bad gambler in a casino, who bet and lost and demands his bet returned to him in full, because he is truly convinced losing is not fair to him. Arabs are exactly that sad loser. They planned to rob jews of everything jews had, they bet, they lost and now they wail, weep and cry international laws, lie and call it "nakba".The comment I replied to was one in which you very inaccurately called Palestinians thieves and beggars.
You continue to sidestep and evade. You are in denial of pal/arab thievery and incompetence yet you insist on blaming others for starving pal/Arab squatters.Hollie,
With the comments you come up with when you try to address the substantive issues, I now fully understand why you try to avoid the substantive issues.
The only squatters are the 500,000+ illegal Jewish settlers living in the Occupied PalestinianTerritories.
There are no beggars, according to Christians working there, there are not even homeless Palestinians. The people take care of one another. This topic was addressed by David Hosey in his blogs , he is a Methodist who spent three years working in Palestine with Sabeel.
UN humanitarian groups and other intl NGO's have to intervene to help Palestinians, to keep Israel from starving them of all their basic needs required to maintain human life.
ReliefWeb tracks humanitarian crisis all over the world, including the humanitarian crisis the Occupation forces the Occupied Palestinian population to live in.
I read:
The Monthly Humanitarian Monitor - occupied Palestinian territory, May 2012
Report UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs
The results of the 2012 Socio-Economic and Food Security survey, released this month, indicate that 27 percent of the population in the oPt (about 1.3 million people) were food insecure in 2011. Albeit high, this represents a six and nine percentage points decrease compared with the equivalent figures for 2010 and 2009, respectively. To a large extent, this can be attributed to the increased levels of economic activity recorded in 2011, as well as improved targeting of food assistance interventions
The Monthly Humanitarian Monitor - occupied Palestinian territory, May 2012 | ReliefWeb
It is obvious that, but for intl interventions, people would be starving to death in Occupied Palestine.
And back to your comment, the issues in Palestine are about Isreal's unlawful possession of Palestinian lands, not Palestinian's unlawful possession of Israeli lands. You have the facts completely backwards.
Sherri
I'm sorry for you that placing blame on others for corruption, thievery and incompetence on the part of the Islamic terrorists elected to manage the Palestinians is your primary goal.
If Palestinians are starving, we might consider demanding an accounting of where billions of dollars of welfare money showered on the Palestinian beggars and squatters has been spent. Do you think it's odd that luxury malls are springing up on land occupied by the pal/Arab squatters when, as you claim, these squatters are going hungry? Do you believe that it is up to the international community to continue to shower these people with more welfare money that will only be squandered?
I'm afraid your frantic Jew hatred has clouded any ability to reach meaningful conclusions.
Hollie,
You keep changing the subject.
The comment I replied to was one in which you very inaccurately called Palestinians thieves and beggars. You still have presented no evidence whatsoever to support your name calling. Why do you hate them so much? What did they do to you?
Now, you are making some allegation about corruption in the use of funds. You really need to provide a link, I have no idea whatsoever what money you are claiming has been misspent by some unnamed Palestinian elected officials. And I really do not want to discuss some really old news, like what Arafat, who may himself have been murdered by Israel, did or did not do a decade ago.
I am sorry to see a human being like you defend Israel's attempts to starve to death these millions of Palestinians who are enslaved within the Occupied Palestinain Territories, all just trying to live in the lands they were born in, just normal people trying to live and raise their kids and have a life.
Reliefweb has daily articles reporting on the humanitarian crisis Israel has created by her unholy and unlawful Occupation of Palestine.
Sherri
You continue to sidestep and evade. You are in denial of pal/arab thievery and incompetence yet you insist on blaming others for starving pal/Arab squatters.I'm sorry for you that placing blame on others for corruption, thievery and incompetence on the part of the Islamic terrorists elected to manage the Palestinians is your primary goal.
If Palestinians are starving, we might consider demanding an accounting of where billions of dollars of welfare money showered on the Palestinian beggars and squatters has been spent. Do you think it's odd that luxury malls are springing up on land occupied by the pal/Arab squatters when, as you claim, these squatters are going hungry? Do you believe that it is up to the international community to continue to shower these people with more welfare money that will only be squandered?
I'm afraid your frantic Jew hatred has clouded any ability to reach meaningful conclusions.
Hollie,
You keep changing the subject.
The comment I replied to was one in which you very inaccurately called Palestinians thieves and beggars. You still have presented no evidence whatsoever to support your name calling. Why do you hate them so much? What did they do to you?
Now, you are making some allegation about corruption in the use of funds. You really need to provide a link, I have no idea whatsoever what money you are claiming has been misspent by some unnamed Palestinian elected officials. And I really do not want to discuss some really old news, like what Arafat, who may himself have been murdered by Israel, did or did not do a decade ago.
I am sorry to see a human being like you defend Israel's attempts to starve to death these millions of Palestinians who are enslaved within the Occupied Palestinain Territories, all just trying to live in the lands they were born in, just normal people trying to live and raise their kids and have a life.
Reliefweb has daily articles reporting on the humanitarian crisis Israel has created by her unholy and unlawful Occupation of Palestine.
Sherri
I'm afraid your tactics of denial and evasion are typical of those for islamist terrorist apologists and for the left of left. You're hoping to selectively limit accountability for mismanagement and thievery that has defined the pal/Arab welfare fraud entitlement.
FrontPage Magazine - In Arafat's Footsteps
The reform of the financial mismanagement of the PA is not fairing much better, despite years of demands for reform by the US and the EU. According to James Wolfensohn, the outgoing World Bank chief and the special envoy of the Quartet, the Financial management within the Palestinian Authority needs to demonstrate security of management and prudence of management and transparency in expenditures But if the past is any indication, do not expect that the donors will stop financing the PA. Only last month, former commissioner Christopher Pattens assistant Emma Unwin disclosed that when we started giving direct budgetary assistance at the end of 2002 [after the start of the Intifada], we were dealing with a Palestinian Authority that had a very untransparent system of financial management. This, however, did not prevent them from giving the PAs untransparent system more than $2.5 billion of European taxpayers money, which in turn enabled the Palestinians to continue with their Intifada.
Observing the situation, one cannot escape the conclusion that we have seen and heard all this before. The only difference is that then it was Arafat and now it is Mahmoud Abbas that is giving us the run-around; and like the world did with Arafat before, it is giving Abbas a leeway, hoping that he, unlike Arafat, will fulfill his promises. But, judging by Abbas performance thus far, one should have little doubt that Abbas is nothing more than Arafats clone, only better spoken and better dressed.
