Halal supermarket - Sell Alcohol & Pork or Face Closure

[Mortimer]

What a crock. I hope the store prevails, that's bullshit.

How so? It is council property, it replaced a facility providing a general service. Seem reasonable arguments to me.

Council property it may be -- it's not a council business. It would be one thing to order a business to NOT sell something --- guns, alcohol, pornography, drugs, tobacco --- this is an outside official entity trying to tell a business what TO DO. Yuge difference.

Suppose they decided the community needed a bar? A porno store? A brothel? No, I don't think the State gets to dictate how you choose to run your business to the point of forcing you to carry merchandise you're not there to carry. If the community thinks they're not getting enough wine or pork -- let somebody open a facility to do that.

You do realize France isn't in the U.S... Don't you? They have different laws and rules there.

I know. I used to live there. But we're not talking about what the law is; we're talking about what ethical is.

I have yet to hear an explanation of how it "breaches French Republican principles" to *NOT* do something. I didn't eat pork the entire time I lived in France; was I "breaching French Republican principles"?

I did have horse though. I don't recommend it.

It is discrimination of christians though and atheists or non-muslims in general who dont observe halal laws, i didnt know the background of the story first.

 

[Toro]

What's the point of a store if it doesn't sell pork or alcohol?

 

[Mortimer]

What's the point of a store if it doesn't sell pork or alcohol?

the problem is they are creating "muslim zones" where they discriminate christians, they already discriminate and persecute christians in majority muslim countries, now they do it even in europe (see also the beheading of the catholic priest)

 

[Tilly]

From the article:

..Good Price discount mini-market in Colombes has been told by the local housing authority, from which it rents its premises, that it has not followed the conditions on the lease that stipulate that the shop must act as a "general food store...

 

[Pogo]

What's the point of a store if it doesn't sell pork or alcohol?

Two things I don't even use so...

 

[Pogo]

What a crock. I hope the store prevails, that's bullshit.

How so? It is council property, it replaced a facility providing a general service. Seem reasonable arguments to me.

Council property it may be -- it's not a council business. It would be one thing to order a business to NOT sell something --- guns, alcohol, pornography, drugs, tobacco --- this is an outside official entity trying to tell a business what TO DO. Yuge difference.

Suppose they decided the community needed a bar? A porno store? A brothel? No, I don't think the State gets to dictate how you choose to run your business to the point of forcing you to carry merchandise you're not there to carry. If the community thinks they're not getting enough wine or pork -- let somebody open a facility to do that.

You do realize France isn't in the U.S... Don't you? They have different laws and rules there.

I know. I used to live there. But we're not talking about what the law is; we're talking about what ethical is.

I have yet to hear an explanation of how it "breaches French Republican principles" to *NOT* do something. I didn't eat pork the entire time I lived in France; was I "breaching French Republican principles"?

I did have horse though. I don't recommend it.

It is discrimination of christians though and atheists or non-muslims in general who dont observe halal laws, i didnt know the background of the story first.

BULLSHIT. There is no "discrimination" in *NOT DOING* something. That's patently absurd.

 

[Vastator]

Like not baking a cake...?

 

[Pogo]

From the article:

..Good Price discount mini-market in Colombes has been told by the local housing authority, from which it rents its premises, that it has not followed the conditions on the lease that stipulate that the shop must act as a "general food store...

Thanks, I addressed what "general food store" means and doesn't mean in post 20. I don't see how it can possibly mean the store has to carry every food product that exists. I can pretty much guarantee you that no store in my town here carries haggis.

 

[westwall]

What a crock. I hope the store prevails, that's bullshit. And the idea that being Halal somehow means it's "restricted to Muslims" is preposterous. I went to a halal grocery last week and I certainly didn't have to become a Muslim. I also didn't go there to buy alcohol or pork, for the same reason I don't go to a car parts store to by lettuce.

Wonder what their attitude would be on selling cigarettes.

The problem is many of those markets are located in areas filled with old people. People who can't get out and travel to where those items are. Thus, when you have a religious based market, like this plant itself in a location all of those older people are left without the things they desire. Kind of funny how you support these dudes and rip the bakers for not baking cakes for gay weddings.

Bit of a double standard don't ya think....

 

[Mortimer]

How so? It is council property, it replaced a facility providing a general service. Seem reasonable arguments to me.

Council property it may be -- it's not a council business. It would be one thing to order a business to NOT sell something --- guns, alcohol, pornography, drugs, tobacco --- this is an outside official entity trying to tell a business what TO DO. Yuge difference.

Suppose they decided the community needed a bar? A porno store? A brothel? No, I don't think the State gets to dictate how you choose to run your business to the point of forcing you to carry merchandise you're not there to carry. If the community thinks they're not getting enough wine or pork -- let somebody open a facility to do that.

You do realize France isn't in the U.S... Don't you? They have different laws and rules there.

I know. I used to live there. But we're not talking about what the law is; we're talking about what ethical is.

I have yet to hear an explanation of how it "breaches French Republican principles" to *NOT* do something. I didn't eat pork the entire time I lived in France; was I "breaching French Republican principles"?

I did have horse though. I don't recommend it.

It is discrimination of christians though and atheists or non-muslims in general who dont observe halal laws, i didnt know the background of the story first.

BULLSHIT. There is no "discrimination" in *NOT DOING* something. That's patently absurd.

You dont need to have a halal supermarket to not eat pork or drink wine though, they can sell halal food and still sell alcohol muslims buy halal food and christians buy alcohol and pork but if they dont sell alcohol and pork then elderly christian people need to walk alot to the next food store and this is discrimination.

 

[westwall]

How so? It is council property, it replaced a facility providing a general service. Seem reasonable arguments to me.

Council property it may be -- it's not a council business. It would be one thing to order a business to NOT sell something --- guns, alcohol, pornography, drugs, tobacco --- this is an outside official entity trying to tell a business what TO DO. Yuge difference.

Suppose they decided the community needed a bar? A porno store? A brothel? No, I don't think the State gets to dictate how you choose to run your business to the point of forcing you to carry merchandise you're not there to carry. If the community thinks they're not getting enough wine or pork -- let somebody open a facility to do that.

You do realize France isn't in the U.S... Don't you? They have different laws and rules there.

I know. I used to live there. But we're not talking about what the law is; we're talking about what ethical is.

I have yet to hear an explanation of how it "breaches French Republican principles" to *NOT* do something. I didn't eat pork the entire time I lived in France; was I "breaching French Republican principles"?

I did have horse though. I don't recommend it.

It is discrimination of christians though and atheists or non-muslims in general who dont observe halal laws, i didnt know the background of the story first.

BULLSHIT. There is no "discrimination" in *NOT DOING* something. That's patently absurd.

Really? I think you need to rethink that statement. Think real hard. I know you can do it...

 

[Pogo]

Council property it may be -- it's not a council business. It would be one thing to order a business to NOT sell something --- guns, alcohol, pornography, drugs, tobacco --- this is an outside official entity trying to tell a business what TO DO. Yuge difference.

Suppose they decided the community needed a bar? A porno store? A brothel? No, I don't think the State gets to dictate how you choose to run your business to the point of forcing you to carry merchandise you're not there to carry. If the community thinks they're not getting enough wine or pork -- let somebody open a facility to do that.

You do realize France isn't in the U.S... Don't you? They have different laws and rules there.

I know. I used to live there. But we're not talking about what the law is; we're talking about what ethical is.

I have yet to hear an explanation of how it "breaches French Republican principles" to *NOT* do something. I didn't eat pork the entire time I lived in France; was I "breaching French Republican principles"?

I did have horse though. I don't recommend it.

It is discrimination of christians though and atheists or non-muslims in general who dont observe halal laws, i didnt know the background of the story first.

BULLSHIT. There is no "discrimination" in *NOT DOING* something. That's patently absurd.

You dont need to have a halal supermarket to not eat pork or drink wine though, they can sell halal food and still sell alcohol muslims buy halal food and christians buy alcohol and pork but if they dont sell alcohol and pork then elderly christian people need to walk alot to the next food store and this is discrimination.

No it is not. That's INSANELY stupid. You don't have a "right" to haggis just because I have a food store. Neither pork nor wine is required for survival. Guess what Junior -- you can't always get what you want.

 

[Tilly]

What a crock. I hope the store prevails, that's bullshit. And the idea that being Halal somehow means it's "restricted to Muslims" is preposterous. I went to a halal grocery last week and I certainly didn't have to become a Muslim. I also didn't go there to buy alcohol or pork, for the same reason I don't go to a car parts store to by lettuce.

Wonder what their attitude would be on selling cigarettes.

The problem is many of those markets are located in areas filled with old people. People who can't get out and travel to where those items are. Thus, when you have a religious based market, like this plant itself in a location all of those older people are left without the things they desire. Kind of funny how you support these dudes and rip the bakers for not baking cakes for gay weddings.

Bit of a double standard don't ya think....

Exactly:

He said locals, particularly older residents, had complained that they could no longer get the full range of products at Good Price, which replaced a regular supermarket, and had to travel some distance now to do their shopping.

 

[Mortimer]

You do realize France isn't in the U.S... Don't you? They have different laws and rules there.

I know. I used to live there. But we're not talking about what the law is; we're talking about what ethical is.

I have yet to hear an explanation of how it "breaches French Republican principles" to *NOT* do something. I didn't eat pork the entire time I lived in France; was I "breaching French Republican principles"?

I did have horse though. I don't recommend it.

It is discrimination of christians though and atheists or non-muslims in general who dont observe halal laws, i didnt know the background of the story first.

BULLSHIT. There is no "discrimination" in *NOT DOING* something. That's patently absurd.

You dont need to have a halal supermarket to not eat pork or drink wine though, they can sell halal food and still sell alcohol muslims buy halal food and christians buy alcohol and pork but if they dont sell alcohol and pork then elderly christian people need to walk alot to the next food store and this is discrimination.

No it is not. That's INSANELY stupid. You don't have a "right" to haggis just because I have a food store.

the thing is alcohol and pork are everyday basic items for most christians. they drink beer and eat bacon almost everyday. and muslims create muslim zones where you need to observe laws they create, a lack of opportunity is discrimination too.

 

[Toro]

What's the point of a store if it doesn't sell pork or alcohol?

Two things I don't even use so...

Muslim!

I always figured.

 

[Toro]

Seriously, pulled pork, ribs, bacon, hot dogs, bourbon, scotch, cognac, armagnac, beer, wine.

Without all these, what is the point?

 

[Pogo]

I know. I used to live there. But we're not talking about what the law is; we're talking about what ethical is.

I have yet to hear an explanation of how it "breaches French Republican principles" to *NOT* do something. I didn't eat pork the entire time I lived in France; was I "breaching French Republican principles"?

I did have horse though. I don't recommend it.

It is discrimination of christians though and atheists or non-muslims in general who dont observe halal laws, i didnt know the background of the story first.

BULLSHIT. There is no "discrimination" in *NOT DOING* something. That's patently absurd.

You dont need to have a halal supermarket to not eat pork or drink wine though, they can sell halal food and still sell alcohol muslims buy halal food and christians buy alcohol and pork but if they dont sell alcohol and pork then elderly christian people need to walk alot to the next food store and this is discrimination.

No it is not. That's INSANELY stupid. You don't have a "right" to haggis just because I have a food store.

the thing is alcohol and pork are everyday basic items for most christians. they drink beer and eat bacon almost everyday. and muslims create muslim zones where you need to observe laws they create, a lack of opportunity is discrimination too.

"Most christians [sic] drink beer and eat bacon almost every day" do they?

EVEN if that were true --- they're not needed for survival, unless you're an alcoholic.
You don't seem to have a clue about what halal means. It's a specific derivation/preparation routine. It doesn't mean you've been denied something. If you came to my house for dinner and you wanted fish but I didn't have fish and you got chicken --- you'd still be fed.

 

[Mortimer]

What's the point of a store if it doesn't sell pork or alcohol?

Two things I don't even use so...

Muslim!

I always figured.

funny thing i know a faggot who supported a somali not wanting to transport beer in his company, and he got fired then he got alot of money from that company for discrimination, thats insane im not even sure this is a islamic law if you dont drink beer it doesnt mean you cant drive the truck with beer, and he doesnt do his job so of course he was fired. the funny thing that faggot supported him eventhough muslims behead faggots, so i wouldnt be surprised if pogo is a muslim or a faggot.

 

[Tilly]

From the article:

..Good Price discount mini-market in Colombes has been told by the local housing authority, from which it rents its premises, that it has not followed the conditions on the lease that stipulate that the shop must act as a "general food store...

Thanks, I addressed what "general food store" means and doesn't mean in post 20. I don't see how it can possibly mean the store has to carry every food product that exists. I can pretty much guarantee you that no store in my town here carries haggis.

It hasn't been asked to carry 'every product that exists'. It's been asked to carry products the locals want - pork and alcohol.

 

[Pogo]

What's the point of a store if it doesn't sell pork or alcohol?

Two things I don't even use so...

Muslim!

I always figured.

Yeah I quit both pork and beef back in the '70s when I found out about the product path. That, and the disease in there.

Alcohol, it's never done a damn thing for me.