Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
Could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "WHITE ONLY"? It seems to me that in that example, the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of race.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
You understand businesses also put up signs that said "Colored Only" right?Could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "WHITE ONLY"? It seems to me that in that example, the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of race.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
Oh, wait. We don't have to imagine. It actually happened.
And now the same kind of people want to put up STRAIGHT ONLY signs.
Same bullshit, different decade.
You understand businesses also put up signs that said "Colored Only" right?Could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "WHITE ONLY"? It seems to me that in that example, the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of race.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
Oh, wait. We don't have to imagine. It actually happened.
And now the same kind of people want to put up STRAIGHT ONLY signs.
Same bullshit, different decade.
Those signs are prohibited by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. No other reason. If race were not a protected class, like gay, then it would be legal to do so.
Personally I think we should repeal the Civil Rights Act. Does anyone actually think we would resegregate society? I mean other than black businesses which would bar whites in a heartbeat.
Who thinks that?Why do people seem to think gun rights are unlimited while no other right is?
One would think that, but considering SCOTUS last week essentially rewrote ACA, the precedent is there to allow them to add other rights and classes to public accommodation laws.While I essentially have to agree, You have to admit that someone being denied service because he was armed could be an interesting test case of public accommodation laws."Gun Rights vs. Gay Rights"
The situation in your OP has nothing to do with 'rights' since there's no government involvement, no effort by the government to regulate, limit, or restrict the rights of gun owners or gay Americans.
With regard to denying services to gay patrons, it would depend on whether or not the business in question is located in a jurisdiction with a public accommodations law that has as one of its provisions sexual orientation, absent such a provision, the business could deny services to gay patrons with impunity.
With regard to a business owner who disallows firearms on his property, again, there are no gun rights violations because the Second Amendment applies only to the relationship between government and those governed, not the relationship between and among private persons or organizations – including private businesses.
PA laws are there to ensure various protected class citizens have equal access to services.
I won't argue whether it is proper to force a business to serve blacks or gays or Martians, but the fact that only race, gender, sex, disability and sexual orientation are mentioned in PA laws, would ordinarily mean that gun owners are not covered. However, considering the recent SCOTUS ruling extending subsidies to obamacare recipients in states with no exchanges, could one assume that SCOTUS is apt to rewrite laws to fix presumed improper omissions?
The right to bear arms is so plainly protected by the Constitution, might SCOTUS include that right in existing PA laws?
It would only apply if the state's PA laws included people who carry guns. If SCOTUS ruled on this based upon the 2nd, it would not involve PA laws at all.
Straw man fallacy. No one thinks gun rights are unlimited.Why do people seem to think gun rights are unlimited while no other right is?
Guns are tools. Gun owners are allowed anywhere. That doesn't mean they can bring their guns anywhere.
I doubt that I would be allowed to drag my rototiller and lawn tractor into a 5 star restaurant.
People are NOT the same as objects.
Sorry friend, but marriage is not specifically in the constitution as a right, the gun is.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
Sorry friend, you gun does not earn equal protection.
Why do people seem to think gun rights are unlimited while no other right is?
Guns are tools. Gun owners are allowed anywhere. That doesn't mean they can bring their guns anywhere.
I doubt that I would be allowed to drag my rototiller and lawn tractor into a 5 star restaurant.
People are NOT the same as objects.
Straw man fallacy. No one thinks gun rights are unlimited.Why do people seem to think gun rights are unlimited while no other right is?
Guns are tools. Gun owners are allowed anywhere. That doesn't mean they can bring their guns anywhere.
I doubt that I would be allowed to drag my rototiller and lawn tractor into a 5 star restaurant.
People are NOT the same as objects.
Where does the constitution mention the right to bear snakes?Why not? It's protected by a specific amendment. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
Sorry friend, you gun does not earn equal protection.
Show me where sexual perversion is a protected right.
Gun ownership is protected as is the right of the store owner to refuse guns in their establishments. To argue from the absurd, what if you wanted to bring a rattle snake into an establishment?
You understand businesses also put up signs that said "Colored Only" right?Could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "WHITE ONLY"? It seems to me that in that example, the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of race.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
Oh, wait. We don't have to imagine. It actually happened.
And now the same kind of people want to put up STRAIGHT ONLY signs.
Same bullshit, different decade.
Here is something else you may wish to consider.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
You understand businesses also put up signs that said "Colored Only" right?Could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "WHITE ONLY"? It seems to me that in that example, the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of race.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
Oh, wait. We don't have to imagine. It actually happened.
And now the same kind of people want to put up STRAIGHT ONLY signs.
Same bullshit, different decade.
Wait, wait, wait. You aren't retarded enough to think the negroes actually WANTED it that way, are you?
Holy fuck!!! The stupid goes way, way, way deeper than even I thought!
As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
You are obviously an idiot if you get that from the NRA. The NRA has supported background checks in many instances.Straw man fallacy. No one thinks gun rights are unlimited.Why do people seem to think gun rights are unlimited while no other right is?
Guns are tools. Gun owners are allowed anywhere. That doesn't mean they can bring their guns anywhere.
I doubt that I would be allowed to drag my rototiller and lawn tractor into a 5 star restaurant.
People are NOT the same as objects.
I said "seem to think".
They way you all act you should be allowed to bring your guns - concealed - anywhere you want regardless of what anyone else thinks. You don't think there should be any background checks, guns should be allowed in bars (effing crazy) and no guns should be restricted. That's what I get from the NRA.
Of course you can. I can refuse to rent to two homosexuals if I want to.As a gun owner and an advocate of concealed carry, I've often wondered about this: Currently all 50 states have some kind of a concealed carry law on the books. The state I live in allows concealed carry just about everywhere except on a school property, within a jail or courthouse, and any business establishment which posts a sign at all of the entrances, prohibiting the carry of weapons into the premise. Of course in my state, disregarding the sign only results in a misdemeanor trespassing charge if the offender refuses to leave.
However, could you imagine what would happen if a business put up a sign reading "Gays Not Allowed"? It seems to me that in one example the business would be attempting to refuse service on the basis of sexual preference and the other case, the business would be putting a person in jeopardy by depriving a person of their right to defend themselves.
In the case of the business which prohibited firearms, it would be easy to say "My business, my rules." But not so much in the other case.
You can not discriminate against another person based on their sexuality, and your entire OP is a strawman...
I carry concealed in the bar at all times, well, except for the times where I tuck in my shirt, usually about closing time when I'd like to discourage the hangers on from starting crap.Straw man fallacy. No one thinks gun rights are unlimited.Why do people seem to think gun rights are unlimited while no other right is?
Guns are tools. Gun owners are allowed anywhere. That doesn't mean they can bring their guns anywhere.
I doubt that I would be allowed to drag my rototiller and lawn tractor into a 5 star restaurant.
People are NOT the same as objects.
I said "seem to think".
They way you all act you should be allowed to bring your guns - concealed - anywhere you want regardless of what anyone else thinks. You don't think there should be any background checks, guns should be allowed in bars (effing crazy) and no guns should be restricted. That's what I get from the NRA.
I carry everywhere there isnt a metal detector.I carry concealed in the bar at all times, well, except for the times where I tuck in my shirt, usually about closing time when I'd like to discourage the hangers on from starting crap.Straw man fallacy. No one thinks gun rights are unlimited.Why do people seem to think gun rights are unlimited while no other right is?
Guns are tools. Gun owners are allowed anywhere. That doesn't mean they can bring their guns anywhere.
I doubt that I would be allowed to drag my rototiller and lawn tractor into a 5 star restaurant.
People are NOT the same as objects.
I said "seem to think".
They way you all act you should be allowed to bring your guns - concealed - anywhere you want regardless of what anyone else thinks. You don't think there should be any background checks, guns should be allowed in bars (effing crazy) and no guns should be restricted. That's what I get from the NRA.
