Gun controll works

[ElmerMudd]

Australia has seen no mass killings — defined as a gunman killing five or more people besides himself — since the nation significantly tightened its gun-control laws after a massacre in Tasmania almost 20 years ago.

 

[Valerie]

As the U.S. wages a debate on its gun laws, some Australians are urging Americans to consider their experience.

For Australia, the turning point came on April 28, 1996, when a lone gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle in Port Arthur, a popular tourist destination in the state of Tasmania.

The new laws prohibited all automatic and semi-automatic weapons, and imposed strict licensing rules.


...sees no contradiction with being both conservative and in favor of strict gun ownership laws.

"We too value freedom. But that's not the freedom to own machine guns in the main streets of the U.S. of A.," he says. "The facts are you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead per capita in the U.S.A. than here in Australia."

At the heart of the reform was a gun buy-back program. More than 600,000 newly prohibited weapons, around a fifth of all firearms in Australia, were destroyed at a cost of nearly half-a-billion dollars.

Roland Browne of Gun Control Australia says it's an example the U.S. can follow.

"It doesn't really matter to what extent you might recognize or even support rights to own firearms," he says. "Our governments have the pre-eminent responsibility of ensuring public safety."

Gun violence hasn't been completely eliminated in Australia. But gun-control advocates are quick to point out that there hasn't been a single mass shooting in the 16 years since the laws came into effect.

Australians Urge U.S. To Look At Their Gun Laws

 

[Kosh]

Australia has seen no mass killings — defined as a gunman killing five or more people besides himself — since the nation significantly tightened its gun-control laws after a massacre in Tasmania almost 20 years ago.

Yes this argument has been made time and time again by the far left, yet not one far left drone can point to any laws new and old that would have prevented what happened in San Bernardino..

 

[Valerie]

Lessons From Australia On Curbing Mass Shootings
Lessons From Australia On Curbing Mass Shootings

In 1996, a mass shooting in an Australian picnic area became a catalyst for the enactment of sweeping gun laws in the country.

These laws include a mandatory national buyback of guns, as well as restrictions on semi-automatics and a 28-day waiting period to get a license to own a gun.

The Australian deputy prime minister at the time, Tim Fischer, helped pass the gun control laws.

Fischer, a gun owner himself, tells Here & Now’s Jeremy Hobson the Australian laws show a country “can have a sensible policy on guns and reduce the number of people being killed by guns and the gun massacres.”

In the wake of another mass shooting in the United States, we revisit our conversation with Fischer.

• Here & Now: How Australian Gun Laws Have Curbed Deaths

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Once again, for the stupid and retarded, its not the guns.

 

[Valerie]

ten years was not nearly enough time... 1994-2004

we should reinstate the ban and give it time to prove itself.


Both sides in the gun debate are selectively citing from a series of studies that concluded with a 2004 study led by Christopher S. Koper, “An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003.” That report was the final of three studies of the ban, which was enacted in 1994 as part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994.

The final report concluded the ban’s success in reducing crimes committed with banned guns was “mixed.” Gun crimes involving assault weapons declined. However, that decline was “offset throughout at least the late 1990s by steady or rising use of other guns equipped with [large-capacity magazines].”

Ultimately, the research concluded that it was “premature to make definitive assessments of the ban’s impact on gun crime,” largely because the law’s grandfathering of millions of pre-ban assault weapons and large-capacity magazines “ensured that the effects of the law would occur only gradually” and were “still unfolding” when the ban expired in 2004.


Did the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Work?

 

[Valerie]

As president, Hillary will increase the number of gun sales subject to background checks:

• Comprehensive federal background check legislation. Background checks reduce gun trafficking, reduce the lethality of domestic violence, and reduce unlawful gun transfers to dangerous individuals. It is reprehensible that bipartisan legislation supporting background checks failed in Congress after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. But Hillary is not giving up—she will continue to fight for legislation to build on the Brady Bill’s success.
  
  
• Closing the “Charleston Loophole.” Hillary will push Congress to close the loophole that allows a gun sale to proceed without a completed background check if that check has not been completed within three days. This loophole allowed the alleged Charleston shooter to purchase a gun even though he had a criminal record.
  
  
• Tightening the gun show and Internet sales loophole if Congress won’t. If Congress refuses to act, Hillary will take administrative action to require that any person attempting to sell a significant number of guns abide by the same commonsense rules that apply to gun stores—including requiring background checks on gun sales.
  

To ensure that the safety of our communities is prioritized over the profits of the gun lobby, Hillary will also:

• Repeal the gun industry’s unique immunity protection. Hillary believes the gun industry must be held accountable for violence perpetrated with their guns. Hillary will lead the charge to repeal the so-called “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act,” a dangerous law that prevents victims of gun violence from holding negligent manufacturers and dealers accountable for violence perpetrated with their guns.
  
  
• Revoke the licenses of bad-actor dealers. Hillary believes we must do more to crack down on gun stores that flood our communities with illegal guns. As president, she will provide funding to increase inspections and aggressively enforce current law by revoking the licenses of dealers that knowingly supply straw purchasers and traffickers.
  

Hillary will fight to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill:

• Support legislation to stop domestic abusers from buying and possessing guns. Although federal law generally prohibits domestic abusers from purchasing or possessing guns, this protection does not apply to people in dating relationships or convicted stalkers. Hillary will fight for legislation to prohibit all of these domestic abusers and stalkers from buying guns.
  
  
• Make straw purchasing a federal crime. When an individual with a clean record buys a gun with the intention of giving it to a violent felon—only so that felon can avoid a background check—it should be a crime. Hillary will fight to make so-called “straw purchasing” a federal crime.
  
  
• Close loopholes that let persons suffering from severe mental illness purchase and possess guns. Hillary will fight to improve existing law prohibiting persons suffering from severe mental illness from purchasing or possessing a gun. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives should finalize its rulemaking to close loopholes in our laws and clarify that people involuntarily committed to outpatient treatment, such as the Virginia Tech shooter, are prohibited from buying guns.
  
  
• Keep military-style weapons off our streets. Military-style assault weapons do not belong on our streets. They are a danger to law enforcement and to our communities. Hillary will work to keep assault weapons off our streets and supports reinstating the assault weapons ban.
  
  
  
  Hillary Clinton on gun violence prevention

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Did we have mass shootings, on todays scale, before 1994? No. This argument is stupid.

 

[Valerie]

Once again, for the stupid and retarded, its not the guns.

don't be such a simpleton master of the obvious...

ya, we know those guns didn't just get up and shoot themselves...

thanks for pointing that out..so very helpful to the slaughtered innocents.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Once again, for the stupid and retarded, its not the guns.

don't be such a simpleton master of the obvious...

ya, we know those guns didn't just get up and shoot themselves...

thanks for pointing that out..so very helpful to the slaughtered innocents.

It has nothing to do with guns. You know that. It has to do with our societal rot. Thats what we should be focusing on.

 

[Valerie]

Did we have mass shootings, on todays scale, before 1994? No. This argument is stupid.

are you arguing FOR something or does saving innocent lives just bother you?

 

[Kosh]

Did we have mass shootings, on todays scale, before 1994? No. This argument is stupid.

are you arguing FOR something or does saving innocent lives just bother you?

Show what laws exist now that would have prevented any mass shooting in this country..

AK-47's are out lawed in the US, yet it is the drug gangs preferred weapon of choice and they still get them..

What to really control guns, then you will need to close and control the border..

Anyone wanting to ban all guns and leave an open border just wants the criminals to be armed..

 

[bripat9643]

Lessons From Australia On Curbing Mass Shootings
Lessons From Australia On Curbing Mass Shootings

In 1996, a mass shooting in an Australian picnic area became a catalyst for the enactment of sweeping gun laws in the country.

These laws include a mandatory national buyback of guns, as well as restrictions on semi-automatics and a 28-day waiting period to get a license to own a gun.

The Australian deputy prime minister at the time, Tim Fischer, helped pass the gun control laws.

Fischer, a gun owner himself, tells Here & Now’s Jeremy Hobson the Australian laws show a country “can have a sensible policy on guns and reduce the number of people being killed by guns and the gun massacres.”

In the wake of another mass shooting in the United States, we revisit our conversation with Fischer.

• Here & Now: How Australian Gun Laws Have Curbed Deaths

Norway's gun control laws are every bit as strict as Australia's. So what is the lesson we should learn from the incident below?

2011 Norway attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 2011 Norway attacks were two sequential lone wolf terrorist attacks by Anders Behring Breivik against the government, the civilian population, and a Workers' Youth League (AUF)-run summer camp in Norway on 22 July 2011. The attacks claimed a total of 77 lives.​

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Did we have mass shootings, on todays scale, before 1994? No. This argument is stupid.

are you arguing FOR something or does saving innocent lives just bother you?

Im arguing for something tangible, such as a deep look into our moral rot and decay, to solve this problem. Banning stuff is just superficial and doesn't stop the cancer.

 

[Rustic]

Australia has seen no mass killings — defined as a gunman killing five or more people besides himself — since the nation significantly tightened its gun-control laws after a massacre in Tasmania almost 20 years ago.

 

[bripat9643]

Did we have mass shootings, on todays scale, before 1994? No. This argument is stupid.

are you arguing FOR something or does saving innocent lives just bother you?

Sleazy dishonest propaganda bothers him.

 

[Wyatt earp]

A the U.S. wages a debate on its gun laws, some Australians are urging Americans to consider their experience.

For Australia, the turning point came on April 28, 1996, when a lone gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle in Port Arthur, a popular tourist destination in the state of Tasmania.

The new laws prohibited all automatic and semi-automatic weapons, and imposed strict licensing rules.


...sees no contradiction with being both conservative and in favor of strict gun ownership laws.

"We too value freedom. But that's not the freedom to own machine guns in the main streets of the U.S. of A.," he says. "The facts are you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead per capita in the U.S.A. than here in Australia."

At the heart of the reform was a gun buy-back program. More than 600,000 newly prohibited weapons, around a fifth of all firearms in Australia, were destroyed at a cost of nearly half-a-billion dollars.

Roland Browne of Gun Control Australia says it's an example the U.S. can follow.

"It doesn't really matter to what extent you might recognize or even support rights to own firearms," he says. "Our governments have the pre-eminent responsibility of ensuring public safety."

Gun violence hasn't been completely eliminated in Australia. But gun-control advocates are quick to point out that there hasn't been a single mass shooting in the 16 years since the laws came into effect.

Australians Urge U.S. To Look At Their Gun Laws

Australia don't have the 2nd amendment

 

[Valerie]

Im arguing for something tangible, such as a deep look into our moral rot and decay, to solve this problem. Banning stuff is just superficial and doesn't stop the cancer.

what do you suggest..?

 

[bripat9643]

A the U.S. wages a debate on its gun laws, some Australians are urging Americans to consider their experience.

For Australia, the turning point came on April 28, 1996, when a lone gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle in Port Arthur, a popular tourist destination in the state of Tasmania.

The new laws prohibited all automatic and semi-automatic weapons, and imposed strict licensing rules.


...sees no contradiction with being both conservative and in favor of strict gun ownership laws.

"We too value freedom. But that's not the freedom to own machine guns in the main streets of the U.S. of A.," he says. "The facts are you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead per capita in the U.S.A. than here in Australia."

At the heart of the reform was a gun buy-back program. More than 600,000 newly prohibited weapons, around a fifth of all firearms in Australia, were destroyed at a cost of nearly half-a-billion dollars.

Roland Browne of Gun Control Australia says it's an example the U.S. can follow.

"It doesn't really matter to what extent you might recognize or even support rights to own firearms," he says. "Our governments have the pre-eminent responsibility of ensuring public safety."

Gun violence hasn't been completely eliminated in Australia. But gun-control advocates are quick to point out that there hasn't been a single mass shooting in the 16 years since the laws came into effect.

Australians Urge U.S. To Look At Their Gun Laws

Australia don't have the 2nd amendment

The one thing that becomes obvious whenever leftwing turds post on the subject of gun control is that they don't give a crap about the Bill of Rights.

 

[Valerie]

Australia don't have the 2nd amendment

austaralia doesn't have the 2nd amendment..? hooray for another master of the obvious.