Gray Dawn: Green Bulbs, Black Hole...

[Steelplate]

Going back to the whole gas prices go up in summer because people go on vacation, by your logic, you should be able to ban other people going on vacation when you want to, because thier action raises prices.

Do you see the logical pitfall you just fell in?

yep... I do. You are right. That would be silly to ban vacations... Ok let me rephrase that..

You see, the problem is that you can't see that CONSUMPTION of resources drives up the cost for everyone. I'll tell you what... you can have your SUV... but you should pay a higher cost for fuel. Why should I subsidize your excess?

Cool idea! Let's make those who exercise regularly pay more for food.

Let's make those who have green lawns pay more for water.

Let's make those who are attractive pay more for cosmetics.

Let's make those who are students pay more for books.

Let's make those who wear white pay more for bleach.

Etc.

Actually... the obese should pay more for food

Green lawns are as much a matter of climate as anything.

Ugly people need Cosmetics more than pretty folk.

Students already pay outrageous prices for books.. have you priced a textbook lately? Better to go after Harlequin trash novels.

the bleach thing? eh.. we all use it.

The bottom line is all things aren't equal when it comes to consumption. There's not a crisis for people buying all those other things... but fuel prices are killing many middle class and working class families. A lot of that has to do with CONSUMPTION.

 

[G.T.]

I think that the Government should have the right to infringe ONLY on Libocalypsenow's rights.

I think that they should mandate that he submit an online form every-time he takes a dump.
He should have to record what he eats, and wear a bracelet telling the Government everywhere he goes.

He should be zapped every time he doesn't refer to the Government as "Master" and all light-bulbs in his home should be confiscated and replaced with candles.

Libocalypsenow should then be fine $550 per retreaded username, per messageboard that he's ever been a member of, for trolling his idiotic persona all over the net wasting bandwidth under all different "handles" and making all Americans who are witness to his incredibally mundane and whiney posts 0.003% dumber.

 

[Si modo]

yep... I do. You are right. That would be silly to ban vacations... Ok let me rephrase that..

You see, the problem is that you can't see that CONSUMPTION of resources drives up the cost for everyone. I'll tell you what... you can have your SUV... but you should pay a higher cost for fuel. Why should I subsidize your excess?

Cool idea! Let's make those who exercise regularly pay more for food.

Let's make those who have green lawns pay more for water.

Let's make those who are attractive pay more for cosmetics.

Let's make those who are students pay more for books.

Let's make those who wear white pay more for bleach.

Etc.

Actually... the obese should pay more for food

Green lawns are as much a matter of climate as anything.

Ugly people need Cosmetics more than pretty folk.

Students already pay outrageous prices for books.. have you priced a textbook lately? Better to go after Harlequin trash novels.

the bleach thing? eh.. we all use it.

The bottom line is all things aren't equal when it comes to consumption. There's not a crisis for people buying all those other things... but fuel prices are killing many middle class and working class families. A lot of that has to do with CONSUMPTION.

Here's a novel idea (well, novel only to some), let the market determine prices and leave the laws for protection of rights.

 

[bripat9643]

The bottom line is all things aren't equal when it comes to consumption. There's not a crisis for people buying all those other things... but fuel prices are killing many middle class and working class families. A lot of that has to do with CONSUMPTION.

Most of it is the result of Democrat anti-energy policies. Perhaps we should impose a tax on voting Democrat - $3000 per vote to cover all the costs Democrats impose on the rest of us.

 

[Steelplate]

you didn't want a discussion... you wanted the board to give you a "hell yeah!" sorry you didn't necessarily get it.

Yea that's it. Has to be it. You are very annoying but i still wouldn't ban you. And that's the difference between you and me. See ya.

yeah right... i've only given one person a negative rep, let alone called for a ban. the person I neg repped gave a disgusting diatribe on African Americans and he has a muppet for an avatar.

 

[Steelplate]

The bottom line is all things aren't equal when it comes to consumption. There's not a crisis for people buying all those other things... but fuel prices are killing many middle class and working class families. A lot of that has to do with CONSUMPTION.

Most of it is the result of Democrat anti-energy policies. Perhaps we should impose a tax on voting Democrat - $3000 per vote to cover all the costs Democrats impose on the rest of us.

Maybe it's a result of narrow minded right wingers thinking the game(you know, the market?) isn't rigged.

 

[Si modo]

The bottom line is all things aren't equal when it comes to consumption. There's not a crisis for people buying all those other things... but fuel prices are killing many middle class and working class families. A lot of that has to do with CONSUMPTION.

Most of it is the result of Democrat anti-energy policies. Perhaps we should impose a tax on voting Democrat - $3000 per vote to cover all the costs Democrats impose on the rest of us.

Maybe it's a result of narrow minded right wingers thinking the game(you know, the market?) isn't rigged.

Then stop the laws that rig it.

 

[Steelplate]

Most of it is the result of Democrat anti-energy policies. Perhaps we should impose a tax on voting Democrat - $3000 per vote to cover all the costs Democrats impose on the rest of us.

Maybe it's a result of narrow minded right wingers thinking the game(you know, the market?) isn't rigged.

Then stop the laws that rig it.

I'd love to... but the corporatists on the right and the left won't let me. Not because they like it so much... they just don't have a choice... it's the way our political system is set up.

 

[Si modo]

Maybe it's a result of narrow minded right wingers thinking the game(you know, the market?) isn't rigged.

Then stop the laws that rig it.

I'd love to... but the corporatists on the right and the left won't let me.

I try to vote for representatives who will respect the Constitution.

If only everyone would, eh?

 

[paulitician]

The bottom line is all things aren't equal when it comes to consumption. There's not a crisis for people buying all those other things... but fuel prices are killing many middle class and working class families. A lot of that has to do with CONSUMPTION.

Most of it is the result of Democrat anti-energy policies. Perhaps we should impose a tax on voting Democrat - $3000 per vote to cover all the costs Democrats impose on the rest of us.

Maybe it's a result of narrow minded right wingers thinking the game(you know, the market?) isn't rigged.

lol! Now you're just desperately grasping for every tired Socialist/Progressive Talking-Point you can muster. 99% of your rants so far on this thread have nothing to do with Government banning light bulbs. Try slowing down and gathering yourself. You've derailed. Good luck with that.

 

[Steelplate]

Then stop the laws that rig it.

I'd love to... but the corporatists on the right and the left won't let me.

I try to vote for representatives who will respect the Constitution.

If only everyone would, eh?

read my edit....

 

[martybegan]

Oh I see... negatively affecting someone else isn't an infringement... I love the way you read between the lines and fill in as you see fit.

Going back to the whole gas prices go up in summer because people go on vacation, by your logic, you should be able to ban other people going on vacation when you want to, because thier action raises prices.

Do you see the logical pitfall you just fell in?

yep... I do. You are right. That would be silly to ban vacations... Ok let me rephrase that..

You see, the problem is that you can't see that CONSUMPTION of resources drives up the cost for everyone. I'll tell you what... you can have your SUV... but you should pay a higher cost for fuel. Why should I subsidize your excess?

If I had an SUV I would be paying more per mile anyway, as I use more gas. You wouldnt be subsidizing anything, as I paid for what I used, and I paid more per mile.

 

[Steelplate]

Going back to the whole gas prices go up in summer because people go on vacation, by your logic, you should be able to ban other people going on vacation when you want to, because thier action raises prices.

Do you see the logical pitfall you just fell in?

yep... I do. You are right. That would be silly to ban vacations... Ok let me rephrase that..

You see, the problem is that you can't see that CONSUMPTION of resources drives up the cost for everyone. I'll tell you what... you can have your SUV... but you should pay a higher cost for fuel. Why should I subsidize your excess?

If I had an SUV I would be paying more per gallon anyway, as I use more gas. You wouldnt be subsidizing anything, as I paid for what I used, and I paid more per mile.

Ahhh... but your excessive CONSUMPTION causes my price/gallon to rise.... so, you should pay a higher amount/gallon too.

 

[Si modo]

yep... I do. You are right. That would be silly to ban vacations... Ok let me rephrase that..

You see, the problem is that you can't see that CONSUMPTION of resources drives up the cost for everyone. I'll tell you what... you can have your SUV... but you should pay a higher cost for fuel. Why should I subsidize your excess?

If I had an SUV I would be paying more per gallon anyway, as I use more gas. You wouldnt be subsidizing anything, as I paid for what I used, and I paid more per mile.

Ahhh... but your excessive CONSUMPTION causes my price/gallon to rise.... so, you should pay a higher amount/gallon too.

Your stupidity negatively affects me. Let's make a law to stop your stupidity.

 

[Steelplate]

I'll give you another example...one where I AM guilty of. Electricity....

People in cities pay the same rate as people who live in the country for their electricity...even though it's much more expensive to run and maintain lines in the country.

 

[Steelplate]

If I had an SUV I would be paying more per gallon anyway, as I use more gas. You wouldnt be subsidizing anything, as I paid for what I used, and I paid more per mile.

Ahhh... but your excessive CONSUMPTION causes my price/gallon to rise.... so, you should pay a higher amount/gallon too.

Your stupidity negatively affects me. Let's make a law to stop your stupidity.

So... you're telling me if, theoretically...we all drove Priuses that CONSUMPTION wouldn't decrease and Gas would be more plentiful and in turn(by the laws of supply and demand) also go down? I don't drive a Prius, BTW... i just used it as the most economical car that is a proven entity... I'd go with the Volt, but it isn't there yet.

 

[paulitician]

How bout letting the Consumers/Citizens decide which light bulbs they prefer? Now there's a novel idea huh? How bout the Government just get off our backs?

 

[Si modo]

Ahhh... but your excessive CONSUMPTION causes my price/gallon to rise.... so, you should pay a higher amount/gallon too.

Your stupidity negatively affects me. Let's make a law to stop your stupidity.

So... you're telling me if, theoretically...we all drove Priuses that CONSUMPTION wouldn't decrease and Gas would be more plentiful and in turn(by the laws of supply and demand) also go down? I don't drive a Prius, BTW... i just used it as the most economical car that is a proven entity... I'd go with the Volt, but it isn't there yet.

No. I'm telling you that your stupidity negatively affects me. And, in the spirit of those who want laws simply because they want to prohibit the actions of another because they are negatively affected by those actions, let's make a law against your stupidity.

We are ALL affected (negatively and positively) by the actions of others. That's life. We make laws to PROTECT rights and PREVENT infringement on rights.

 

[Steelplate]

How bout letting the Consumers/Citizens decide which light bulbs they prefer? Now there's a novel idea huh? How bout the Government just get off our backs?

how about you pick your battles better? Light Bulbs??? C'mon. Not every issue is a line in the sand.

 

[Steelplate]

Your stupidity negatively affects me. Let's make a law to stop your stupidity.

So... you're telling me if, theoretically...we all drove Priuses that CONSUMPTION wouldn't decrease and Gas would be more plentiful and in turn(by the laws of supply and demand) also go down? I don't drive a Prius, BTW... i just used it as the most economical car that is a proven entity... I'd go with the Volt, but it isn't there yet.

No. I'm telling you that your stupidity negatively affects me. And, in the spirit of those who want laws simply because they want to prohibit the actions of another because they are negatively affected by those actions, let's make a law against your stupidity.

We are ALL affected (negatively and positively) by the actions of others. That's life. We make laws to PROTECT rights and PREVENT infringement on rights.

Do we? Where's the laws that prevented millions of people losing their jobs to outsourcing... oh.. that's right... no one has a right to a job... only Suburbans.