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You can count on the cons to attempt to rewrite history every year about this time
Prior to his death, Democrats bombed Dr. King's home several times. The scurrilous efforts by the
Democrats to harm Dr. King included spreading rumors that he was a Communist and accusing him
of being a womanizer and a plagiarist.
You can count on the cons to attempt to rewrite history every year about this time
He became a Christian, and his Doctorate studies (which the left seem to adore mentioning) are in systematic theology and philosophy. You can say he might have become a socialist. I can just as easily claim that he may have become a conservative. It is ridiculous and pointless to claim either. Because the man is dead. We will never know... and you cannot prove your opinion as being more valid than any other. It's jibberish.
Of course we can. It is jibberish to suggest otherwise. Looking at the totality of the man and his work, one can make reasonable conclusions. Reasonable, we can conclude he would not have become a conservative in that day and age.
Reasonably, no, we can not conclude that... we can not 'conclude' anything - it is nothing more than opinion. You cannot conclude from opinion. There are no facts on which to base a conclusion. Because he is dead. He was staunchly opposed to abortion (social conservative), he was staunchly for personal responsibility (conservative), he was many things - certainly not a perfect man... but I like my heroes with flaws. But no one party and no one ideology can claim him. He was a good American though. And, at least to me, that is the salient point.
MLK was not a communist or a socialist, although he may have become a socialist later in his life had he lived into the seventies and eighties. He was a womanizer, yes, and, he may have plagiarized part of his dissertation, yet. He also led and gave his life for civil rights, yes. He is truly an American hero and icon.
He may have become a staunch conservative. Speculation is really not helpful to rational debate, Jokey. Seriously. It just isn't.
MLK was not a communist or a socialist, although he may have become a socialist later in his life had he lived into the seventies and eighties. He was a womanizer, yes, and, he may have plagiarized part of his dissertation, yet. He also led and gave his life for civil rights, yes. He is truly an American hero and icon.
He may have become a staunch conservative. Speculation is really not helpful to rational debate, Jokey. Seriously. It just isn't.
I agree.
Could it have really been that he was assassinated because he was a black conservative figure at a time when the democrats where still trying to get blacks on their electorate plantation? A powerful figure like doctor king swaying blacks towards the republicans would not be in the best interest of the Democrats now would it? Just a theory that I wanted to put out there.
If you look at King's history, the real history not the crap we are forcefed. King was attracted to the communist party and appeared at quite a few communist events. He believed in the communist political goals. This is what brought him to the attention of Robert Kennedy who instructed Hoover to surveil him to find out how active King was in the communist party. Living through those days and looking back at them from a historical perspective, it seems that King was not communist, but a student of communisim. In his own writings he said that he was attracted to commumisim for what it offered but was essentially Godless. The atheisim of communisim repelled him and he rejected the communist party as inconsistent with his Church.
King thought the ideal society was a synthesis of both communisim and capitalisim. An economic capitalistic structure with a communist foundation. His synthesis of the thesis and antithesis is basically Marxism.
In his famous I have a dream speech, everyone knows that he had a dream in which his daughters would be judged by the content of their character not the color of their skin, Everyone knows that. We can all recite the "dream". That was not the entirety of the speech. Towards the end King expresses his REAL DREAM
"Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths of both. - 1967
Based on the above, then the teachings of Piux XI, John XIII, and John Paul II would make them inevitably far lefties. In fact, they warned of the problems of both unregulated capitalism and collectivist Marxism. I visited a class taught by Angela Davis, and, guess what, I did not become a communist.
I doubt there is very little to suggest that King would have become a communist.
If you look at King's history, the real history not the crap we are forcefed. King was attracted to the communist party and appeared at quite a few communist events. He believed in the communist political goals. This is what brought him to the attention of Robert Kennedy who instructed Hoover to surveil him to find out how active King was in the communist party. Living through those days and looking back at them from a historical perspective, it seems that King was not communist, but a student of communisim. In his own writings he said that he was attracted to commumisim for what it offered but was essentially Godless. The atheisim of communisim repelled him and he rejected the communist party as inconsistent with his Church.
King thought the ideal society was a synthesis of both communisim and capitalisim. An economic capitalistic structure with a communist foundation. His synthesis of the thesis and antithesis is basically Marxism.
In his famous I have a dream speech, everyone knows that he had a dream in which his daughters would be judged by the content of their character not the color of their skin, Everyone knows that. We can all recite the "dream". That was not the entirety of the speech. Towards the end King expresses his REAL DREAM
"Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths of both. - 1967
Based on the above, then the teachings of Piux XI, John XIII, and John Paul II would make them inevitably far lefties. In fact, they warned of the problems of both unregulated capitalism and collectivist Marxism. I visited a class taught by Angela Davis, and, guess what, I did not become a communist.
I doubt there is very little to suggest that King would have become a communist.
Especially after I just told you that King specifically rejected communisim! Boy are you BRILLIANT to have come to the conclusion that there was little to suggest that King would have become a communist.
If you look at King's history, the real history not the crap we are forcefed. King was attracted to the communist party and appeared at quite a few communist events. He believed in the communist political goals. This is what brought him to the attention of Robert Kennedy who instructed Hoover to surveil him to find out how active King was in the communist party. Living through those days and looking back at them from a historical perspective, it seems that King was not communist, but a student of communisim. In his own writings he said that he was attracted to commumisim for what it offered but was essentially Godless. The atheisim of communisim repelled him and he rejected the communist party as inconsistent with his Church.
King thought the ideal society was a synthesis of both communisim and capitalisim. An economic capitalistic structure with a communist foundation. His synthesis of the thesis and antithesis is basically Marxism.
In his famous I have a dream speech, everyone knows that he had a dream in which his daughters would be judged by the content of their character not the color of their skin, Everyone knows that. We can all recite the "dream". That was not the entirety of the speech. Towards the end King expresses his REAL DREAM
"Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths of both. - 1967
You can count on the cons to attempt to rewrite history every year about this time
Dont pin that shit on the rest of us, the rest of us conservatives have nothing to do with this crackpot theory. However, MLK was a Republican who knew the evils of the Democrat party back in the day, so I just cannot see him as being associated with communism or socialism in anyway shape or form.
Prior to his death, Democrats bombed Dr. King's home several times. The scurrilous efforts by the
Democrats to harm Dr. King included spreading rumors that he was a Communist and accusing him
of being a womanizer and a plagiarist.
http://images.nbra.info/docs/library/NationalBlackRepublicanAssociation2009/Democrats%20Smeared%20MLK%20in%20the%201960%27s.pdf
MLK Was A Republican | National Black Republican Association
"I don't think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses ... And I'm not inextricably bound to either party."
Grunt, he was indeed a plagiarizer and a womanizer, and he did sit down and brak bread with socialists and communists and republicans and democrats, and he was beaten, terrorized, jailed, and murdered. He never gave up and he never hit back, and he is our American hero.
He may have become a staunch conservative. Speculation is really not helpful to rational debate, Jokey. Seriously. It just isn't.
I agree.
Could it have really been that he was assassinated because he was a black conservative figure at a time when the democrats where still trying to get blacks on their electorate plantation? A powerful figure like doctor king swaying blacks towards the republicans would not be in the best interest of the Democrats now would it? Just a theory that I wanted to put out there.
No, Grunt, it was not that.
Grunt, he was indeed a plagiarizer and a womanizer, and he did sit down and brak bread with socialists and communists and republicans and democrats, and he was beaten, terrorized, jailed, and murdered. He never gave up and he never hit back, and he is our American hero.
Because he broke bread with them does not make him a communist and or a socialist, he was however in fact and on public record a republican, that cannot be disputed, and because of his believes he was a social conservative, another indisputable fact.
Could it have been that he sat down with all different kinds to get everyone to meet in the middle and just get along? He did love all mankind and did not hate any of them and believed he could unite all of us, does that make him a communist? No, it makes him a good man. And you are correct, he was a hero.
The FBI and Martin Luther King
Martin Luther King was never himself a Communist—far from it. But the FBI's wiretapping of King was precipitated by his association with Stanley Levison, a man with reported ties to the Communist Party. Newly available documents reveal what the FBI actually knew—the vast extent of Levinson's Party activities
By David J. Garrow
On October 10, 1963, U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy committed what is widely viewed as one of the most ignominious acts in modern American history: he authorized the Federal Bureau of Investigation to begin wiretapping the telephones of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. Kennedy believed that one of King's closest advisers was a top-level member of the American Communist Party, and that King had repeatedly misled Administration officials about his ongoing close ties with the man. Kennedy acted reluctantly, and his order remained secret until May of 1968, just a few weeks after King's assassination and a few days before Kennedy's own. But the FBI onslaught against King that followed Kennedy's authorization remains notorious, and the stains on the reputations of everyone involved are indelible.
More here:
The FBI and Martin Luther King - Magazine - The Atlantic
I thought it was common knowledge that the only reason he was at that hotel was to meet up with a white woman.
Grunt, he was indeed a plagiarizer and a womanizer, and he did sit down and brak bread with socialists and communists and republicans and democrats, and he was beaten, terrorized, jailed, and murdered. He never gave up and he never hit back, and he is our American hero.
Because he broke bread with them does not make him a communist and or a socialist, he was however in fact and on public record a republican, that cannot be disputed, and because of his believes he was a social conservative, another indisputable fact.
Could it have been that he sat down with all different kinds to get everyone to meet in the middle and just get along? He did love all mankind and did not hate any of them and believed he could unite all of us, does that make him a communist? No, it makes him a good man. And you are correct, he was a hero.
Anytime you want to give objective links to support your points, go for it. I have no doubt that he was not a communist and I have no doubt that he was neither democrat or republican, though he may have voted for their candidates. Yes, a hero.