Gore barely passed "Natural Sciences" in undergrad...(insert el oh el here)

[Old Rocks]

Giving al gore crap for trusting the scientific fields expertice on sceintific matters is just halirious coming from a pack of cons.

Why do you people trust a handful of corporate paid scientists over the vast majority of them world wide?

Because you are partisn fools who can have your opinions bought with a little propaganda from a hand full of people.

Have you not heard about those e-mails admitting to the fraud........Admitted to the propoganda?

Algore is a damn fraud. Making boatloads o' money off the truly ignorant sheoples.

Further proving, there are many seriously stupid people out there.

Al Gore made his money off of Google. And has spent a great deal of money on informing people about the dangers inherent in a rapidly changing climate.

 

[Old Rocks]

It means that someone who sets himself up as an expert in science does not understand as much as he claims to.

If you claim to be a scientific guru, you should at least have a basic competence in the subject.

Big hint.

He is a politician, not a scientist. An orator not a thinker.

And also a very successful investor.

As an orator, he did a very good presentation of what the scientists have been trying to tell us for many decades. I guess that makes him also a very successful orator.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Giving al gore crap for trusting the scientific fields expertice on sceintific matters is just halirious coming from a pack of cons.

Why do you people trust a handful of corporate paid scientists over the vast majority of them world wide?

Because you are partisn fools who can have your opinions bought with a little propaganda from a hand full of people.

Have you not heard about those e-mails admitting to the fraud........Admitted to the propoganda?

Algore is a damn fraud. Making boatloads o' money off the truly ignorant sheoples.

Further proving, there are many seriously stupid people out there.

Al Gore made his money off of Google. And has spent a great deal of money on informing people about the dangers inherent in a rapidly changing climate.

Algore made a ton o' money on his debunked farce of a movie that was based on lies.

He makes plenty of money in fees for further spreading the lies before people fully ignorant enough to buy into the lies.

Algore is not stupid, he's a fraud.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Algore made a ton o' money on his debunked farce of a movie that was based on lies.

He makes plenty of money in fees for further spreading the lies before people fully ignorant enough to buy into the lies.

Algore is not stupid, he's a fraud.

Yep. It's politics by scientist and flim-flam artists.

 

[syrenn]

Have you not heard about those e-mails admitting to the fraud........Admitted to the propoganda?

Algore is a damn fraud. Making boatloads o' money off the truly ignorant sheoples.

Further proving, there are many seriously stupid people out there.

Al Gore made his money off of Google. And has spent a great deal of money on informing people about the dangers inherent in a rapidly changing climate.

Algore made a ton o' money on his debunked farce of a movie that was based on lies.

He makes plenty of money in fees for further spreading the lies before people fully ignorant enough to buy into the lies.

Algore is not stupid, he's a fraud.

Jim bakker comes to mind....

Preying on the stupid oh so wanting to believe, sending hard earned money to someone they think they can trust.

 

[Trakar]

Jim bakker comes to mind....

Sounds like a design flaw

 

[rdean]

Natural science? Isn't that the "science" they teach at Bible College? The one where you learn about bees pollinating flowers and beavers building dams?

 

[daveman]

Have you not heard, all were exonerated of all of those specious charges?

They exonerated themselves. Would you have accepted Nixon's findings if he had been allowed to investigate Watergate?

 

[daveman]

Scientist's climate change predictions can be proved only if it happens. No amount of evidence will be sufficient because the required changes cost too much for something that hasn't been proven. I doubt very many people on the left or right would be willing to sacrifice today to save the planet a hundred years from now. People are just not that benevolent.

Scientist's climate change predictions can be proved only if it happens. No amount of evidence will be sufficient because the required changes cost too much for something that hasn't been proven. I doubt very many people on the left or right would be willing to sacrifice today to save the planet a hundred years from now. People are just not that benevolent.

"beneficient," but you are probably correct for the most part, this would be especially true if there were absolutely no harm until a century from now. The impacts, however, started quite some time ago and will only build and accelerate in frequency as time goes on. It is an exponential process and it won't stop in a century, it'll just be getting started. My only real concern is that we may have already waited to late to save the best parts, and by the time self-preservation motivations really kick in, it may be too late to do anything but prolong the agony.

I disagree. We banned DDT.

At the cost of fifty to eighty million lives.

That's what happens when ideologues bastardize science.

 

[daveman]

...So 9 is okay by you?

9 political issues that need to be clarified, discussed and properly explained when this film is shown as part of required curriculm classes?

So you support indoctrination of children.

It says a great deal that you don't want kids to be exposed to all sides of the issue and be allowed to make up their own minds.

 

[daveman]

Giving al gore crap for trusting the scientific fields expertice on sceintific matters is just halirious coming from a pack of cons.

Why do you people trust a handful of corporate paid scientists over the vast majority of them world wide?

Because you are partisn fools who can have your opinions bought with a little propaganda from a hand full of people.

Have you not heard about those e-mails admitting to the fraud........Admitted to the propoganda?

Algore is a damn fraud. Making boatloads o' money off the truly ignorant sheoples.

Further proving, there are many seriously stupid people out there.

Al Gore made his money off of Google. And has spent a great deal of money on informing people about the dangers inherent in a rapidly changing climate.

Al Gore Refuses to Take Personal Energy Ethics Pledge During Global Warming Hearing

Read more: Al Gore Refuses to Take Personal Energy Ethics Pledge During Global Warming Hearing | NewsBusters.org


He wants you to change the way you live, Rocks, but refuses to do so himself.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. My, my, you people really have your panties in a knot. Nothing is working for you. The climate is doing what the scientists warned you it would, our President fulfilled his promise to get Bin Laden, he was 'concerned' about him, and there is a ground swell of disgust for the idea of gutting Medicare and other social programs for the wealth of the oil companies. A ground swell that is turning into a tsunami.

All the Scientific Societies in the world, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state that Al Gore's movie had the overall science correct. There were a few details he was fuzzy on, as would be expected from a journalist major interpreting a scientific subject.

Gore won the popular vote and lost the Supreme Court. So he retired from politics, and used a modestly wealthy inheritance to build a big fortune by making investments in hi-tech at the very time that segment of the market was on a downer. Now I find that admirable, after all, is not smart capitalism what you people espouse?

But, his astute investments, his interest in global warming, and, most of all, his political statements critical of really bad decisions made by the Bush admin, statements that turned out to be correct in their predictions, have all of your panties in a knot. And that is funny.

For this is a scientific discussion, yet you begin it by immediatly screaming "Al Gore, Al Gore". We are well past an Inconveniant Truth. That was about predicting the effects of global warming. Today, the science is about observing the effects, and trying to judge how quickly they are occurring and what actions are neccessary by when. In the meantime, you are still stuck on Al Gore.

 

[daveman]

LOL. My, my, you people really have your panties in a knot. Nothing is working for you. The climate is doing what the scientists warned you it would, our President fulfilled his promise to get Bin Laden, he was 'concerned' about him, and there is a ground swell of disgust for the idea of gutting Medicare and other social programs for the wealth of the oil companies. A ground swell that is turning into a tsunami.

All the Scientific Societies in the world, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state that Al Gore's movie had the overall science correct. There were a few details he was fuzzy on, as would be expected from a journalist major interpreting a scientific subject.

Gore won the popular vote and lost the Supreme Court. So he retired from politics, and used a modestly wealthy inheritance to build a big fortune by making investments in hi-tech at the very time that segment of the market was on a downer. Now I find that admirable, after all, is not smart capitalism what you people espouse?

But, his astute investments, his interest in global warming, and, most of all, his political statements critical of really bad decisions made by the Bush admin, statements that turned out to be correct in their predictions, have all of your panties in a knot. And that is funny.

For this is a scientific discussion, yet you begin it by immediatly screaming "Al Gore, Al Gore".

Ummm...no, this thread is about Gore. Dumbass.

We are well past an Inconveniant Truth. That was about predicting the effects of global warming. Today, the science is about observing the effects, and trying to judge how quickly they are occurring and what actions are neccessary by when. In the meantime, you are still stuck on Al Gore.

Then you're not really paying attention, are you?

But, hey, just make sure you don't criticize Gore for his hypocrisy. You might burst into flames for blasphemy.

Cultist.

 

[Wicked Jester]

LOL. My, my, you people really have your panties in a knot. Nothing is working for you. The climate is doing what the scientists warned you it would, our President fulfilled his promise to get Bin Laden, he was 'concerned' about him, and there is a ground swell of disgust for the idea of gutting Medicare and other social programs for the wealth of the oil companies. A ground swell that is turning into a tsunami.

All the Scientific Societies in the world, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state that Al Gore's movie had the overall science correct. There were a few details he was fuzzy on, as would be expected from a journalist major interpreting a scientific subject.

Gore won the popular vote and lost the Supreme Court. So he retired from politics, and used a modestly wealthy inheritance to build a big fortune by making investments in hi-tech at the very time that segment of the market was on a downer. Now I find that admirable, after all, is not smart capitalism what you people espouse?

But, his astute investments, his interest in global warming, and, most of all, his political statements critical of really bad decisions made by the Bush admin, statements that turned out to be correct in their predictions, have all of your panties in a knot. And that is funny.

For this is a scientific discussion, yet you begin it by immediatly screaming "Al Gore, Al Gore".

Ummm...no, this thread is about Gore. Dumbass.

We are well past an Inconveniant Truth. That was about predicting the effects of global warming. Today, the science is about observing the effects, and trying to judge how quickly they are occurring and what actions are neccessary by when. In the meantime, you are still stuck on Al Gore.

Then you're not really paying attention, are you?

But, hey, just make sure you don't criticize Gore for his hypocrisy. You might burst into flames for blasphemy.

Cultist.

Funny thing is, the earth is going through it's natural cycles since it has been since the beginning. But don't tell these so-called scientists that. It will blow their money making schemes.........Hell, i'm still waiting for that "ice-age" that was promised back in the seventies to hit.........I've even gotten the training to survive it by doing an 18th month hitch at Fort Wainwright Alaska, and going through the Arctic Warfare Training Center at Fort Greeley ALaska........I want to do some survivin' dammit!

This whole GW bullshit is a damn farce.

 

[daveman]

LOL. My, my, you people really have your panties in a knot. Nothing is working for you. The climate is doing what the scientists warned you it would, our President fulfilled his promise to get Bin Laden, he was 'concerned' about him, and there is a ground swell of disgust for the idea of gutting Medicare and other social programs for the wealth of the oil companies. A ground swell that is turning into a tsunami.

All the Scientific Societies in the world, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state that Al Gore's movie had the overall science correct. There were a few details he was fuzzy on, as would be expected from a journalist major interpreting a scientific subject.

Gore won the popular vote and lost the Supreme Court. So he retired from politics, and used a modestly wealthy inheritance to build a big fortune by making investments in hi-tech at the very time that segment of the market was on a downer. Now I find that admirable, after all, is not smart capitalism what you people espouse?

But, his astute investments, his interest in global warming, and, most of all, his political statements critical of really bad decisions made by the Bush admin, statements that turned out to be correct in their predictions, have all of your panties in a knot. And that is funny.

For this is a scientific discussion, yet you begin it by immediatly screaming "Al Gore, Al Gore".

Ummm...no, this thread is about Gore. Dumbass.

We are well past an Inconveniant Truth. That was about predicting the effects of global warming. Today, the science is about observing the effects, and trying to judge how quickly they are occurring and what actions are neccessary by when. In the meantime, you are still stuck on Al Gore.

Then you're not really paying attention, are you?

But, hey, just make sure you don't criticize Gore for his hypocrisy. You might burst into flames for blasphemy.

Cultist.

Funny thing is, the earth is going through it's natural cycles since it has been since the beginning. But don't tell these so-called scientists that. It will blow their money making schemes.........Hell, i'm still waiting for that "ice-age" that was promised back in the seventies to hit.........I've even gotten the training to survive it by doing an 18th month hitch at Fort Wainwright Alaska, and going through the Arctic Warfare Training Center at Fort Greeley ALaska........I want to do some survivin' dammit!

This whole GW bullshit is a damn farce.

Any science that relies on distorted data and massaged models isn't science.

 

[Trakar]

Any science that relies on distorted data and massaged models isn't science.

Fully agreed, what method do you think we should use to discern which science is flawed and which is accurate and what do you think should happen when deliberately distorted and massaged science is found?

 

[percysunshine]

The guy was a politician, a Senators son, a Senator, and a Vice President.

What moron would mistake him for a scientist?

 

[daveman]

Any science that relies on distorted data and massaged models isn't science.

Fully agreed, what method do you think we should use to discern which science is flawed and which is accurate...

Every single piece of data, every source, every model, every simulation, every last fraction must be made available to anyone who asks.

If this situation is as dire as is claimed, these people are irresponsible by refusing to share their work. They care more about publication and grants than they do about saving the planet.

...and what do you think should happen when deliberately distorted and massaged science is found?

Any public policy based on the bad science must be immediately overturned, and those involved barred from ever receiving public funding again. Ever. On any subject.

 

[Trakar]

Any science that relies on distorted data and massaged models isn't science.

Fully agreed, what method do you think we should use to discern which science is flawed and which is accurate...

Every single piece of data, every source, every model, every simulation, every last fraction must be made available to anyone who asks.

If this situation is as dire as is claimed, these people are irresponsible by refusing to share their work. They care more about publication and grants than they do about saving the planet.

So you believe that all information, methodologies, programming, code, communitcations, writings and intellectual product should be openly and freely available to all when it comes to any aspect of scientific investigation? That sounds rather socialistic to me, but regardless, are you willing to pay the extra amounts in administrative fees, costs and expenses when it comes to hiring the staffs of qualified technicians and clerks who would be required to handle this process?

Ultimately, this still doesn't answer the question I asked, which was: "what method do you think we should use to discern which science is flawed and which is accurate?"

Who do you feel is best qualified to properly evaluate the information and processes that mainstream climate science is using?

...and what do you think should happen when deliberately distorted and massaged science is found?

Any public policy based on the bad science must be immediately overturned, and those involved barred from ever receiving public funding again. Ever. On any subject.

Well, first you have to tell me how we decide what is "bad science" and what isn't.

 

[Old Rocks]

Lordy, lordy, all you 'Conservatives' are doing your best to demonstrate how willfully ignorant you truly are. It is not about Al Gore. It is about the fact that scientists from every nation in the world have stated virtually unanamously that AGW is a fact, and a clear and present danger.

All you have are some senators and congressmen owned by the energy companies, and an obese junkie radio jock. In the meantime all the Scientific Societies in the world, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities are stating unequivocally that AGW is real.

Virtually unanimously?

Yes.