GOP Senator..."tough shit" for the unemployed

[uscitizen]

So you would be for spending the stimulus money that has already been added to the deficit on other things and borrowing MORE money from the Chinese to extend UE benefits and further INCREASE the deficit? Do I have that right?

It is all borrowed money so it make no difference to me.

Lets see do I put this on Visa or Mastercard?

I have always been for helping the working class and not for TARP.

How does borrowing an ADDITIONAL 10 Billion dollars on help the working class? And if it makes no difference to you, why would you call Bunning an asshole for not supporting additional borrowing?

this will still be going on a year from now and more money will be needed.
As I said it makes no difference if this is on Visa or Mastercard.

 

[Stephanie]

Take a good look at the people who have been on lifetime welfare. These poor people live in housing that looks like rundown prisons, they have no hope and live in despair wondering from month to month IF their checks will be on time.

that is COMPASSION?

 

[Some Guy]

What state do YOU live in? I need to move there, just in case.

Illinois.

My cousin just started working as a recruiter out of college. He's got positions to fill but has trouble finding anyone to fill them because they're collecting unemployment checks that are larger than the job pays. He'll often "interview" people who say straight out that they don't want a job, they just need the interview to prove they're looking for work so they can keep collecting unemployment.

Now i understand there's people out there that don't abuse unemployment and use it for what it was intended for, but i'd prefer that the system really pushes the unemployed back into the workforce rather than encourage them to get comfortable outside of it.

I'm a conservative and I can tell you that in the same situation, I'd do the same thing. Once you get tied down in a new job, you are not very free to continue job hunting and going on interviews. Only a fool would settle for a job paying less than his unemployment benefit instead of trying to find a higher paying job in line with what he had been making in the past that his mortgage and expenses are based on. When push comes to shove at the end of your unemployment benefits, THEN you take the lower paying job as a last resort. Until then, you take the benefit and keep trying for a higher paying jobs. Common sense.

Perhaps you misunderstood the point, but i don't blame them for taking the unemployment over a lower paying job. If the money is there then you take it.

I'm blaming the fact that the money is there for them to take. I don't like to see anyone lose their job unless they truly deserved to lose it but people have to come to grips with reality and some point and realize that just because something bad happens to you doesn't mean someone else has to pick you up. We wouldn't be where we were as a country if our grandparents and those before them all felt sorry for themselves when something bad happened. We are as prosperous a nation as we are because people worked their asses off, and when life dealt them a set back, they worked harder to recover from it.

 

[Dr Gregg]

National defense is not a personal responsibility... roads are not a personal responsibility (unless they are on your private property)... law enforcement is not a personal responsibility... and guess what, fuckstain, they all deal in areas of public domain.. your person, your body, your house, your bills, your personal care is not something to be used and shared by the public or society... hence why YOUR personal well being, and the paying for it, is your PERSONAL responsibility and not everyone else's

Ignorant left winger that is so generous when it comes to the monies of others and believes it is everyone else's responsibility but your own

ah yes, the ignorant person who think anybody who doesn't have a job or needs assitance is in that positions solely because of their own actions and their own fault. Like I said, you live in fairy tale land.

Another talking point always brought up by ignorant fundies like yourself, the" generous with other people's money".Umm, I make money, get taxed on that. I buy things and get taxed on that. I contribute, so its not other people's money. There you are with the greed bullshit.

WTF does personal responsiblity have to do with the fact tons of taxpayer money (or as you would call it "my money") is used for military, roads, and tons of other things, many in which I may never use? Trying to deflect away from yet another disingenuous post.

Yes, we know, yoru eyes anybody who is poor is a lazy bum looking for a handout and who doesn't work hard. Everybody that supports helping people all want things for free and want a handout. Gov't assitance is socialism and redistribution of wealth, but money for roads, schools, military, and other gov't functions is not. Any other stupid, non factual, judgemental talking points of yours that I missed?

Do you make the choice to work for a company? Yep.. Do you have the freedom to look into the company's well being?? Yep.. Do you make the choice to advance or change your skills?? Yep... Face it, bubba, your situation may be influenced by outside things, but it is indeed YOUR responsibility, and not someone else's

As for the roads and national defense... you have the freedom to use your driving privilege (or someone else using their privilege to transport you) to go anywhere... your motherfucking body and well being is not public domain and YOU are the sole motherfucker responsible for you

I have given you facts... you choose not to believe them

You have given me what you want to believe are facts, not facts. Jesus fsome of you have the most simplistic view of life, which in reality is complex.

There simply is not enough jobs for everybody, hence why there is always unemployment. So someone who gets injured and can't do their job anymore, its their fault they go injured?

FAct, not everything in this world is all up to you, all your doing, and all in your hands.

 

[uscitizen]

Take a good look at the people who have been on lifetime welfare. These poor people live in housing that looks like rundown prisons, they have no hope and live in despair wondering from month to month IF their checks will be on time.

that is COMPASSION?

So we should just shoot them and put them out of our misery?

 

[DiamondDave]

ah yes, the ignorant person who think anybody who doesn't have a job or needs assitance is in that positions solely because of their own actions and their own fault. Like I said, you live in fairy tale land.

Another talking point always brought up by ignorant fundies like yourself, the" generous with other people's money".Umm, I make money, get taxed on that. I buy things and get taxed on that. I contribute, so its not other people's money. There you are with the greed bullshit.

WTF does personal responsiblity have to do with the fact tons of taxpayer money (or as you would call it "my money") is used for military, roads, and tons of other things, many in which I may never use? Trying to deflect away from yet another disingenuous post.

Yes, we know, yoru eyes anybody who is poor is a lazy bum looking for a handout and who doesn't work hard. Everybody that supports helping people all want things for free and want a handout. Gov't assitance is socialism and redistribution of wealth, but money for roads, schools, military, and other gov't functions is not. Any other stupid, non factual, judgemental talking points of yours that I missed?

Do you make the choice to work for a company? Yep.. Do you have the freedom to look into the company's well being?? Yep.. Do you make the choice to advance or change your skills?? Yep... Face it, bubba, your situation may be influenced by outside things, but it is indeed YOUR responsibility, and not someone else's

As for the roads and national defense... you have the freedom to use your driving privilege (or someone else using their privilege to transport you) to go anywhere... your motherfucking body and well being is not public domain and YOU are the sole motherfucker responsible for you

I have given you facts... you choose not to believe them

You have given me what you want to believe are facts, not facts. Jesus fsome of you have the most simplistic view of life, which in reality is complex.

There simply is not enough jobs for everybody, hence why there is always unemployment. So someone who gets injured and can't do their job anymore, its their fault they go injured?

FAct, not everything in this world is all up to you, all your doing, and all in your hands.

So it is not a fact that you are responsible for you, and not someone else?

It is not a fact that your body is not public domain?

It is not a fact that roads are public domain and that national defense is not for the country as a whole?

It's a miracle your ancestors survived at all... I mean hey... hard hunting or farming and not everything was just handed to them... what ever were they to do?

 

[Stephanie]

Take a good look at the people who have been on lifetime welfare. These poor people live in housing that looks like rundown prisons, they have no hope and live in despair wondering from month to month IF their checks will be on time.

that is COMPASSION?

So we should just shoot them and put them out of our misery?

oh brother.

 

[uscitizen]

Bring back the draft and then say your body is not public domain?


Been there done that.

 

[Dr Gregg]

Do you make the choice to work for a company? Yep.. Do you have the freedom to look into the company's well being?? Yep.. Do you make the choice to advance or change your skills?? Yep... Face it, bubba, your situation may be influenced by outside things, but it is indeed YOUR responsibility, and not someone else's

As for the roads and national defense... you have the freedom to use your driving privilege (or someone else using their privilege to transport you) to go anywhere... your motherfucking body and well being is not public domain and YOU are the sole motherfucker responsible for you

I have given you facts... you choose not to believe them

You have given me what you want to believe are facts, not facts. Jesus fsome of you have the most simplistic view of life, which in reality is complex.

There simply is not enough jobs for everybody, hence why there is always unemployment. So someone who gets injured and can't do their job anymore, its their fault they go injured?

FAct, not everything in this world is all up to you, all your doing, and all in your hands.

So it is not a fact that you are responsible for you, and not someone else?

It is not a fact that your body is not public domain?

It is not a fact that roads are public domain and that national defense is not for the country as a whole?

It's a miracle your ancestors survived at all... I mean hey... hard hunting or farm
Wing and not everything was just handed to them... what ever were they to do?

all those which have nothing to do with what I said and am arguing.

You claiming that not having a job is solely the person's responsiblity is what is not factual. People get hurt, they may not of been born with intelligence, skills, etc. There may simply not be any jobs available, like is always the case. has there ever been 0% unemployment? I doubt it

 

[Jay Canuck]

Talking about socialism made me wonder just who pays for Jim Bunnings healthcare coverage?

 

[uscitizen]

Talking about socialism made me wonder just who pays for Jim Bunnings healthcare coverage?

and if we refuse to pay for it we go to jail right? Or are otherwise punished.

 

[Vel]

It is all borrowed money so it make no difference to me.

Lets see do I put this on Visa or Mastercard?

I have always been for helping the working class and not for TARP.

How does borrowing an ADDITIONAL 10 Billion dollars on help the working class? And if it makes no difference to you, why would you call Bunning an asshole for not supporting additional borrowing?

this will still be going on a year from now and more money will be needed.
As I said it makes no difference if this is on Visa or Mastercard.

Good grief if you really don't know what the difference is between using the money you're already in debt for or going further into debt you should probably apply at the DNC for a job.

 

[Dr Gregg]

How does borrowing an ADDITIONAL 10 Billion dollars on help the working class? And if it makes no difference to you, why would you call Bunning an asshole for not supporting additional borrowing?

this will still be going on a year from now and more money will be needed.
As I said it makes no difference if this is on Visa or Mastercard.

Good grief if you really don't know what the difference is between using the money you're already in debt for or going further into debt you should probably apply at the DNC for a job.

Really? you mean RNC? Like all the money that war costs? Tax cuts without cutting spending?

 

[California Girl]

Domestic terrorism by anti American SCUM continues...

Jim Bunning Repeatedly Blocks Unemployment Benefits Extension, Tells Dem 'Tough Shit'

Updated below: The Senate has now recessed for the weekend without taking action.

Jim Bunning, a Republican from Kentucky, is single-handedly blocking Senate action needed to prevent an estimated 1.2 million American workers from prematurely losing their unemployment benefits next month.

As Democratic senators asked again and again for unanimous consent for a vote on a 30-day extension Thursday night, Bunning refused to go along.

And when Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) begged him to drop his objection, Politico reports, Bunning replied: "Tough shit."

Bunning says he doesn't oppose extending benefits -- he just doesn't want the money that's required added to the deficit. He proposes paying for the 30-day extension with stimulus funds. The Senate's GOP leadership did not support him in his objections.

And at one point during the debate, which dragged on till nearly midnight, Bunning complained of missing a basketball game.

"I have missed the Kentucky-South Carolina game that started at 9:00," he said, "and it's the only redeeming chance we had to beat South Carolina since they're the only team that has beat Kentucky this year.

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Jim Bunning Repeatedly Blocks Unemployment Benefits Extension, Tells Dem 'Tough Shit'

The Huffington Post is just as funny as the Onion!

Any comments on this republican single handedly stopping this?

Yea, what exactly is the problem for the Democrats in using stimulus money instead of adding the cost to their deficit - the tab for which will be picked up by local taxpayers? Why don't they use the stimulus. Or are they planning to use that stimulus money for 'pork'?

I need reasons - I need all the facts - not just some half assed piece of crap reporting from the HuffPo before I made a decision on who is right. Maybe that's why I'm smarter than you.

 

[Stephanie]

I find it absolutely AMAZING that there are people in this country who would slime and Belittle TAX CUTS. for people who PAY taxes.

 

[Vel]

this will still be going on a year from now and more money will be needed.
As I said it makes no difference if this is on Visa or Mastercard.

Good grief if you really don't know what the difference is between using the money you're already in debt for or going further into debt you should probably apply at the DNC for a job.

Really? you mean RNC? Like all the money that war costs? Tax cuts without cutting spending?

Would you care to answer my question? What is the problem with Bunning wanting to use the already borrowed stimulus funds to extend the program rather than borrowing MORE money a problem for you?

 

[Some Guy]

Talking about socialism made me wonder just who pays for Jim Bunnings healthcare coverage?

I may still be new around here, but i've yet to see you add something to a single thread.

 

[Dr Gregg]

I find it absolutely AMAZING that there are people in this country who would slime and Belittle TAX CUTS. for people who PAY taxes.

Tax cuts for rich people, yeah, those millionaires are suffering immensely having to pay taxes.

It's amazing people will vote solely on the promise of tax cuts, but then don't balance the budget. "Hey, vote for me, I'll pretend I'm cutting your taxes so you vote for me."

 

[Dr Gregg]

Good grief if you really don't know what the difference is between using the money you're already in debt for or going further into debt you should probably apply at the DNC for a job.

Really? you mean RNC? Like all the money that war costs? Tax cuts without cutting spending?

Would you care to answer my question? What is the problem with Bunning wanting to use the already borrowed stimulus funds to extend the program rather than borrowing MORE money a problem for you?

First off, wow, classic example of a deflection here. I'm talking about your stupid DNC comment, I don't care about your question

 

[Jay Canuck]

Talking about socialism made me wonder just who pays for Jim Bunnings healthcare coverage?

I may still be new around here, but i've yet to see you add something to a single thread.

and this is your contribution to this thread? - a gay little comment about me.