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Sorry you drank the Kool Aid-I supported Democrats in the past when they were honest-like Jimmy Carter. This group is not - starting with Schiff. Pelosi is a power broker who worries ONLY about political fallout-its HER job! Joe Lieberman who was a freedom rider put principle above politics-can you see any of these hacks doing that? Maybe Gabbard and Mayor Pete who served but that's it.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.The Republicans did it with Clinton for the same reason-HATRED and revenge. There is no nobility on either side. All any of this has done is remind people why they hate politicians.As a general rule, no. There is a real risk this impeachment thing is gonna be political suicide but they are doing it anyway, because it's the right thing to do.And Dems don't???
Can you picture a republican doing something like that?
I sure as fuck can't.
This isn't revenge. These people are putting their careers at risk.
Don't worry its being investigated again, but not by democratsThere is no whistle to blow on Biden. It's already been investigated and no suggestion of wrongdoing was found.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.The Republicans did it with Clinton for the same reason-HATRED and revenge. There is no nobility on either side. All any of this has done is remind people why they hate politicians.
This isn't revenge. These people are putting their careers at risk.
Bullshit, they are attacking Trump for blowing the whistle on Biden.
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“There is no way we could somehow bar the doors and prevent the managers from presenting the articles” of impeachment, states the memo.
The Republican leadership issued a memo Saturday clarifying that the Senate must take action if the House of Representatives approves articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump. The statement came in response to concerns that the Senate could simply refuse to hold a trial.
“There is no way we could somehow bar the doors and prevent the managers from presenting the articles to the Senate,” stated the memo, which was obtained by HuffPost. “The rules of impeachment are clear on this point.”
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) also said as much in a March interview with NPR: “If it [impeachment] were to happen, the Senate has no choice. If the House were to act, the Senate immediately goes into a trial.”
McConnell could call a vote on a motion to dismiss, which would effectively amount to a vote to acquit Trump of wrongdoing.
GOP Leadership Memo Suggests Senate Cannot Block Trial If House Votes To Impeach Trump
Sounds good - but apparently "McConnell could call a vote on a motion to dismiss, which would effectively amount to a vote to acquit Trump of wrongdoing." I don't trust any of them!
Is that Michael Moore?“There is no way we could somehow bar the doors and prevent the managers from presenting the articles” of impeachment, states the memo.
The Republican leadership issued a memo Saturday clarifying that the Senate must take action if the House of Representatives approves articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump. The statement came in response to concerns that the Senate could simply refuse to hold a trial.
“There is no way we could somehow bar the doors and prevent the managers from presenting the articles to the Senate,” stated the memo, which was obtained by HuffPost. “The rules of impeachment are clear on this point.”
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) also said as much in a March interview with NPR: “If it [impeachment] were to happen, the Senate has no choice. If the House were to act, the Senate immediately goes into a trial.”
McConnell could call a vote on a motion to dismiss, which would effectively amount to a vote to acquit Trump of wrongdoing.
GOP Leadership Memo Suggests Senate Cannot Block Trial If House Votes To Impeach Trump
Sounds good - but apparently "McConnell could call a vote on a motion to dismiss, which would effectively amount to a vote to acquit Trump of wrongdoing." I don't trust any of them!
There is no whistle to blow on Biden. It's already been investigated and no suggestion of wrongdoing was found.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.The Republicans did it with Clinton for the same reason-HATRED and revenge. There is no nobility on either side. All any of this has done is remind people why they hate politicians.
This isn't revenge. These people are putting their careers at risk.
Bullshit, they are attacking Trump for blowing the whistle on Biden.
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Again, not quite as clear cut an issue.It's the right thing to do for the same reason it right to arrest murderers and robbers. Is this off topic too from the other guy? And how can arresting illegals be wrong-IT IS THE LAW! NOT COMPLICATED!It's a bit more complicated than that.How about arresting illegals? Isn't that the right thing to do?It's the right thing to do for the same reason it right to arrest murderers and robbers.As a general rule, no. There is a real risk this impeachment thing is gonna be political suicide but they are doing it anyway, because it's the right thing to do.
Can you picture a republican doing something like that?
I sure as fuck can't.
Why is it the "right thing" to do? To teach millions of deplorable Americans that their vote doesn't matter, and they might as well stay home during future elections?
Trump is a modern day, Wat Tyler, who stood up to English Deep State in 1381. Back then they called the Deplorables "peasants", but it was the same concept. Tyler and Trump showed courage in being willing to speak Truth to power.
Think man. This isn't rocket science.
Don't go off topic.
And ironically you think I'm the one who "drank the koolaide".Sorry you drank the Kool Aid-I supported Democrats in the past when they were honest-like Jimmy Carter. This group is not - starting with Schiff. Pelosi is a power broker who worries ONLY about political fallout-its HER job! Joe Lieberman who was a freedom rider put principle above politics-can you see any of these hacks doing that? Maybe Gabbard and Mayor Pete who served but that's it.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.The Republicans did it with Clinton for the same reason-HATRED and revenge. There is no nobility on either side. All any of this has done is remind people why they hate politicians.As a general rule, no. There is a real risk this impeachment thing is gonna be political suicide but they are doing it anyway, because it's the right thing to do.
Can you picture a republican doing something like that?
I sure as fuck can't.
This isn't revenge. These people are putting their careers at risk.
Everyone. Google is your friend.There is no whistle to blow on Biden. It's already been investigated and no suggestion of wrongdoing was found.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.This isn't revenge. These people are putting their careers at risk.
Bullshit, they are attacking Trump for blowing the whistle on Biden.
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By whom, Corrupt Ukraine officials?
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CAN you explain why?Again, not quite as clear cut an issue.It's the right thing to do for the same reason it right to arrest murderers and robbers. Is this off topic too from the other guy? And how can arresting illegals be wrong-IT IS THE LAW! NOT COMPLICATED!It's a bit more complicated than that.How about arresting illegals? Isn't that the right thing to do?It's the right thing to do for the same reason it right to arrest murderers and robbers.Why is it the "right thing" to do? To teach millions of deplorable Americans that their vote doesn't matter, and they might as well stay home during future elections?
Trump is a modern day, Wat Tyler, who stood up to English Deep State in 1381. Back then they called the Deplorables "peasants", but it was the same concept. Tyler and Trump showed courage in being willing to speak Truth to power.
Think man. This isn't rocket science.
Don't go off topic.
I have no party, unless you wan to count Independents as a party-therefore, no kool aid. No irony either-care to answer the Carter then, Schiff now honesty comparison?And ironically you think I'm the one who "drank the koolaide".Sorry you drank the Kool Aid-I supported Democrats in the past when they were honest-like Jimmy Carter. This group is not - starting with Schiff. Pelosi is a power broker who worries ONLY about political fallout-its HER job! Joe Lieberman who was a freedom rider put principle above politics-can you see any of these hacks doing that? Maybe Gabbard and Mayor Pete who served but that's it.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.The Republicans did it with Clinton for the same reason-HATRED and revenge. There is no nobility on either side. All any of this has done is remind people why they hate politicians.
This isn't revenge. These people are putting their careers at risk.
I don't think Biden or Trump did anything wrong.Everyone. Google is your friend.There is no whistle to blow on Biden. It's already been investigated and no suggestion of wrongdoing was found.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.
Bullshit, they are attacking Trump for blowing the whistle on Biden.
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By whom, Corrupt Ukraine officials?
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Everyone. Google is your friend.There is no whistle to blow on Biden. It's already been investigated and no suggestion of wrongdoing was found.They are risking their jobs. This is about defending our constitution and our country. It may well.cost us (democrats) the presidency. But it's still the right thing to do.No they are not-don't be a sap-they could care less-this is about keeping their jobs. Everything either side does is with an eye for what the political consequences are.
Bullshit, they are attacking Trump for blowing the whistle on Biden.
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By whom, Corrupt Ukraine officials?
.
There are plenty of people on this forum alone who you can look toward to confirm what I’m saying, regarding doing a complete 180 on a politician.
CrusaderFrank, Oddball, bigrebnc1775, peach174, koshergrl, etc. used to love and defend everything that Bush did. Now they all claim otherwise, and some of them are harshly critical. Who changed? Not Bush.
There was plenty of things we did not like about Bush.
How many times have I said over the years on this board that both parties have corruption and that we need two new parties. Huh?
Yes, you say that, but how much weight should someone give that when in every single thread you criticize Democrats while taking the Republican side?
Both Bushes were Progressive RINOS .
Under Bush Jr. we got a rotten education bill, 2 corrupt farm bills, a bad prescription drug bill , 2 pork filled transportation bills. an auto company bail out and a TARP bailout for banks.
Telling that those are your choices instead of the 4,424 dead and 31,952 wounded in action and 288,000 total deaths from the Iraq War, or the disastrous response to Katrina, or his administration’s intelligence failure before 9-11, or the collapse of the economy due to irresponsible deregulation of the mortgage and finance sectors and lax oversight.
Yours are focused on money. Yup, you’re a Republican.
