GOP blocks funding troops

Maple, Please go get the quote where he says that?


Ben Nelson, U.S. Senator for Nebraska: Commerce, Justice, Science

I hope this is sufficient.

Purpose: to design and test technology that will enable surgical capabilities for U.S. astronauts during space missions
Amount Requested: $3,100,000
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Recipient: University of Nebraska Medical Center
Taxpayer Interest: This technology will enable astronauts in space to assist in the diagnosis and treatment of medical conditions that could otherwise end multimillion dollar space missions.

Anyone know how to do the SUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY call. :p:
 
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what a load of crap, do you really expect anyomne to buy that you went after the Rs for the same thing?

I'm going out on a limb and assuming you're referring to me. Honestly, I could not give a rats ass what you 'buy'. You - any your politicians - are pondscum. There is nothing that enrages me more than assholes like you who use our military as 'cannon fodder' for politics. I am no more a republican than I am a democrat.... because both parties engage in this disgraceful behavoir. And, in my opinion, anyone who supports it is equally as bad.
 
And some more of those 5,000 earmarks written into the same bill which supports our troops.

Remember the Obama promise- I will sign no bill with earmarks, he has already signed the 410 billion dollar Omnibus bill with 9,000 earmarks, when Bush refused to sign on. Now this one with 5,000 earmarks. More from the the hogs in congress. Oink, Oink.

Earmarks 'robust' in House $1T spending bill - USATODAY.com

Among the earmarks:

• Democratic Sens. Daniel Akaka and Daniel Inouye, both of Hawaii, secured $3.15 million for a Financial Education and Pre-Home Ownership Counseling Pilot Program in Hawaii.

Jesse Broder Van Dyke, an Akaka spokesman, said program grants will help identify successful methods of financial education and counseling services, and establish program models for others to deliver those services.

• Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., secured $930,000 for maintaining exhibits at the Aerospace Museum of California in McClellan. "This is still part of the overall property that was essentially the Air Force base that was closed ... over a decade ago," Lungren said. "So this is part of the continuing process of making that whole area viable."

Lungren, who voted against the bill, said if all members gave up their earmarks he would do the same.

• Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa, secured $750,000 for the World Food Prize Foundation, which has undertaken a $29.8 million project to convert a century-old library in Des Moines into the Norman E. Borlaug Hall of Laureates.

The federal money would go toward educational exhibits on Borlaug, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, and his efforts to end world hunger, said Jane Slusark, a Boswell spokeswoman. "The World Food Prize's Hall of Laureates will teach our children and grandchildren about the state's deep rural roots and the great men and women who have contributed to feeding the world," Boswell said.

Ellis said he is not taking issue with these specific earmarks. He added, however, "I am sure there are millions of dollars that have been wasted in this legislation on these parochial projects."

Contributing: The Associated Press

Priceless!
 
The ironic aspect is both sides use this "see they're hypocrites" tactic because of procedural moves or opposition to riders by the other side. The hysterical aspect is people actually buy into it. :cuckoo: :lol:

There's truth in what you say. Nevertheless, in this case, Republican obstructionism will have a very real effect; Americans could die because of Republican ideological extremism. They don't seem to mind, though.

Wow! The same "scare tactic" argument the Pubs use against the Dems. Kewl, you learn fast don't ya.

Except when it comes to Democrats, it's not a "tactic". Could die? Americans "have died" and Republicans don't seem to mind, not at all.
 
I call 'em like they are.

Republicans are violating what they claim to be their first principles so they can serve their corporate masters.

And who have you chosen to be your master? As much as you rationalize the high road it's still an illusion. The sad thing is that you and your opposites can't or won't see that, hence you are both the problem, not the solution.

I don't think that's true. Typically, leftists are better educated than rightists and have much better grasp of the principles humanity have most cherished throughout the ages. While I make no claims for myself, I think that's what drives their political activity.

Just look at what are the most important issues in the health care debate: the left wants inclusion and the right wants low taxes. In the global warming debate, the left wants a clean environment for future generations and the right wants low taxes. The right hates homosexuals but the left will tolerate diversity of sexual orientation. The left seeks a world where all religious and spiritual beliefs can coexist. The right wants to impose fundamentalist Christianity on everyone.

On almost every issue, the left is more in tune with humanity's more admirable values than the right.

I understand (and completely disagree) and you've just proven the primary aspect of my point which was completely missed. You are judging from your own perspective i.e. socio-political paradigm. By doing so while making no attempt to honestly understand your opponents' basis of view point you fall into the trap of claiming a non-existent high ground and then utilize the same hypocrisy laden tactics and misinformed generalizations they do as shown in your post above.
How does that make your position any better?
 
There's truth in what you say. Nevertheless, in this case, Republican obstructionism will have a very real effect; Americans could die because of Republican ideological extremism. They don't seem to mind, though.

Wow! The same "scare tactic" argument the Pubs use against the Dems. Kewl, you learn fast don't ya.

Except when it comes to Democrats, it's not a "tactic". Could die? Americans "have died" and Republicans don't seem to mind, not at all.

Haven't learned your lesson yet have ya shill. You just keep telling yourself that, I'm obviously not biting your bull shit. Really, your willful, partisan ignorance is beyond rational comprehension.
 
There's truth in what you say. Nevertheless, in this case, Republican obstructionism will have a very real effect; Americans could die because of Republican ideological extremism. They don't seem to mind, though.

Wow! The same "scare tactic" argument the Pubs use against the Dems. Kewl, you learn fast don't ya.

Except when it comes to Democrats, it's not a "tactic". Could die? Americans "have died" and Republicans don't seem to mind, not at all.

To save you the bother of whining about it, I have negged you for this remark. It is absolutely, without doubt, the most dispicable of remarks to accuse anyone - even political opponents, of not caring about Americans dying. rdean, you are pondscum... enjoy the company down there. Most liberals will not be joining you.
 
And who have you chosen to be your master? As much as you rationalize the high road it's still an illusion. The sad thing is that you and your opposites can't or won't see that, hence you are both the problem, not the solution.

I don't think that's true. Typically, leftists are better educated than rightists and have much better grasp of the principles humanity have most cherished throughout the ages. While I make no claims for myself, I think that's what drives their political activity.

Just look at what are the most important issues in the health care debate: the left wants inclusion and the right wants low taxes. In the global warming debate, the left wants a clean environment for future generations and the right wants low taxes. The right hates homosexuals but the left will tolerate diversity of sexual orientation. The left seeks a world where all religious and spiritual beliefs can coexist. The right wants to impose fundamentalist Christianity on everyone.

On almost every issue, the left is more in tune with humanity's more admirable values than the right.

I understand (and completely disagree) and you've just proven the primary aspect of my point which was completely missed. You are judging from your own perspective i.e. socio-political paradigm. By doing so while making no attempt to honestly understand your opponents' basis of view point you fall into the trap of claiming a non-existent high ground and then utilize the same hypocrisy laden tactics and misinformed generalizations they do as shown in your post above.
How does that make your position any better?

Following your argument, that I am judging from my perspective alone, implies no one can ever judge from any perspective other than his own. Who among us can ever see from any other perspective than his own? Absent some kind mind-meld, no one. Even if I tried (which, by-the-way, I did,) my efforts would be foiled by my own perspective of someone else's perspective.
 
I don't think that's true. Typically, leftists are better educated than rightists and have much better grasp of the principles humanity have most cherished throughout the ages. While I make no claims for myself, I think that's what drives their political activity.

Just look at what are the most important issues in the health care debate: the left wants inclusion and the right wants low taxes. In the global warming debate, the left wants a clean environment for future generations and the right wants low taxes. The right hates homosexuals but the left will tolerate diversity of sexual orientation. The left seeks a world where all religious and spiritual beliefs can coexist. The right wants to impose fundamentalist Christianity on everyone.

On almost every issue, the left is more in tune with humanity's more admirable values than the right.

I understand (and completely disagree) and you've just proven the primary aspect of my point which was completely missed. You are judging from your own perspective i.e. socio-political paradigm. By doing so while making no attempt to honestly understand your opponents' basis of view point you fall into the trap of claiming a non-existent high ground and then utilize the same hypocrisy laden tactics and misinformed generalizations they do as shown in your post above.
How does that make your position any better?

Following your argument, that I am judging from my perspective alone, implies no one can ever judge from any perspective other than his own. Who among us can ever see from any other perspective than his own? Absent some kind mind-meld, no one. Even if I tried (which, by-the-way, I did,) my efforts would be foiled by my own perspective of someone else's perspective.

Bull shit, People develop their personal perspective based on numerous life events then in general nail the lid shut. Opening up to other perspectives is a simple matter of being willing to put aside personal bias and making an attempt to see their position in something other than an adversarial light. What's so hard about that?
 
On almost every issue, the left is more in tune with humanity's more admirable values than the right.

The right wants thrift and planning to carry people to comfortable retirement.
The left wants someone else to take care of them.

An issue where the Right is more in tune with humanities more admirable virtues than the Left.

Socialism does not work on a national scale.
Malthus was right - give poor deadbeats enough to live an you end up with more poor deadbeats.

Playing games with our troops is a disservice to everyone who wears the uniform. Sadly, despite Obama's pledge of unity, both parties are playing the games.
 
why am i not surprised dogbert didn't enter this thread and tell his fellow libbies they were doing a circle jerk.....

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The right wants thrift and planning to carry people to comfortable retirement.
The left wants someone else to take care of them.

How is paying into a savings system, and then living off the savings and interest having "someone else take care of you".

An issue where the Right is more in tune with humanities more admirable virtues than the Left.

By allowing the poorer old folk in society, who haven't saved up enough, to DIE. That's real admirable.

Socialism does not work on a national scale.
Malthus was right - give poor deadbeats enough to live an you end up with more poor deadbeats..

Sure it works on a national scale. Just about all modern industrialized nations around the world are much more Socialistic than we are, and they're all doing just fine.

Playing games with our troops is a disservice to everyone who wears the uniform. Sadly, despite Obama's pledge of unity, both parties are playing the games.

Oh yes, when the Republicans did it, it was all fine and dandy. But now, when the Republicans are specifically using troop funding to play political games, now it's not ok to call them on it?

ROFL.
 
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Wow! The same "scare tactic" argument the Pubs use against the Dems. Kewl, you learn fast don't ya.

Except when it comes to Democrats, it's not a "tactic". Could die? Americans "have died" and Republicans don't seem to mind, not at all.

To save you the bother of whining about it, I have negged you for this remark. It is absolutely, without doubt, the most dispicable of remarks to accuse anyone - even political opponents, of not caring about Americans dying. rdean, you are pondscum... enjoy the company down there. Most liberals will not be joining you.

And yet it's a remark that Republicans use time after time without hesitation. Starting with, "you are with us or with the terrorists". So put away your crocodile tears. If you were serious, you would be writing, calling and protesting Republican politicians who have publicly stated they are doing this in an attempt to sink Obama. They hate him that much. They want him to fail. SHAME SHAME SHAME on an odious and dirty political party.
 
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Except when it comes to Democrats, it's not a "tactic". Could die? Americans "have died" and Republicans don't seem to mind, not at all.

To save you the bother of whining about it, I have negged you for this remark. It is absolutely, without doubt, the most dispicable of remarks to accuse anyone - even political opponents, of not caring about Americans dying. rdean, you are pondscum... enjoy the company down there. Most liberals will not be joining you.

And yet it's a remark that Republicans use time after time without hesitation. Starting with, "you are with us or with the terrorists". So put away your crocodile tears. If you were serious, you would be writing, calling and protesting Republican politicians who have publicly stated they are doing this in an attempt to sink Obama. They hate him that much. They want him to fail. SHAME SHAME SHAME on an odious and dirty political party.

Hillary Clinton said on September 13, 2001: "Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."

:eusa_whistle:
 
It's bullshit to claim the GOP "hates the troops" because they voted against this due to riders, just as it was bullshit when they pulled the same lines when they had the majority.
 

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