GOP blames Obama but International Press blames GOP

[Siete]

awwwwww, hootowl is screeching Clinton.

problem being, the topic is about the Iraq war, and bringing up Clinton is nothing more than passing the buck from who actually DID something in Iraq back to who said something about Iraq.

see the difference ?


lol

If you are going to be for hillary honest to goodness get better at your schtick. Oh and by the way I loved her to death and wanted her to win in 2008. sigh some days you need to know who you are posting against.

Hillary who ?

 

[chikenwing]

Sure it is.

Zogby: Troops think Iraq was retaliation for 9/11

President Bush tried to link Iraq with 9/11 and imply Saddam was in league with Al Qaeda.

These tactics worked -- more than 75% of Bush supporters believed (PDF) in October 2004 that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11 (20%) or gave substantial support to Al Qaeda (55%).

Sadly, a new Zogby International poll of soldiers in Iraq (via Brad DeLong by way of Scott Rosenberg) suggests that soldiers in Iraq may be even more misinformed:

While 85% said the U.S. mission is mainly "to retaliate for Saddam's role in the 9-11 attacks

Anther Dean-o matic lie.

Provide the direct quotes from Bushe's mouth saying what you accuse him of doing.

Here you are:

We also must never forget the most vivid events of recent history. On September the 11th, 2001, America felt its vulnerability -- even to threats that gather on the other side of the earth. We resolved then, and we are resolved today, to confront every threat, from any source, that could bring sudden terror and suffering to America.

Members of the Congress of both political parties, and members of the United Nations Security Council, agree that Saddam Hussein is a threat to peace and must disarm. We agree that the Iraqi dictator must not be permitted to threaten America and the world with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons. Since we all agree on this goal, the issues is : how can we best achieve it?
President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat

9/11.... Saddam Hussein. Direct quote from Bush.

You're welcome.

As for his question, "How can we best achieve it?" He failed miserably because HE FUCKING LIED.
Iraq: The Media War Plan
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction
The Record on CURVEBALL
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

Welcom for what,not once in that piecel,does Bush directly blame 9/11 on Iraq,the 9/1 reference was an example of what happens when you don't keep the sewer clean.

Work on your reading comp,it will help you greatly.

Now once again provide the direct from Bushes mouth blaming 9/11 on Iraq.

 

[Theowl32]

Iraq news: Tony Blair airbrushing role in creating Isis in Iraq

Blaming Obama for Iraq's Chaos

Thus, there is almost no attention to the fact that before the U.S. overthrow (and subsequent hanging) of Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, there was no al-Qaeda threat in Iraq or Syria.

That threat emerged only after the U.S. invasion and the Bush administration’s rash decision to disband the Iraqi army. Then, as U.S. forces fought to crush Sunni resistance to Iraq’s new U.S.-backed Shiite-dominated government, Iraq became a magnet for Sunni extremists from across the Middle East, a force that coalesced into the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

Yet, the great divide in the Iraq War narrative came in 2007-08 when the neocons sought to salvage their blood-spattered reputations by inserting the myth of the “successful surge,” hailing Bush’s decision to escalate the war by dispatching some 30,000 additional U.S. troops. Though the “surge” initially was accompanied by a surge in killing, the gradual reduction in the violence was cited as proof of Bush’s heroic wisdom.

Other explanations for the decline in Iraqi violence were ignored, including the fact that some key policies, such as buying-off Sunni tribes in Anbar Province and applying high-tech methods for hunting down al-Qaeda leaders, were initiated before the surge although their impact only became clear later. And, the violence also subsided because the Iraqi people finally recognized that a timetable was being set for the removal of all U.S. troops, a process completed in 2011.

The Debacle in Iraq | Global Research

The Iraq war was not a humanitarian crusade to bring democracy to the Iraqi people. It was justified on the basis of lies about “weapons of mass destruction” and nonexistent ties between Baghdad and Al Qaeda and was carried out to further US imperialism’s drive to assert hegemony over the Middle East and its vast energy reserves. Far from providing a “better destiny” to the Iraqis, the war laid waste to an entire society.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were killed by the US war, millions more were turned into refugees, and every facet of the economic, social and political infrastructure holding the country together was reduced to rubble. Nearly 4,500 US troops lost their lives, tens of thousands were wounded, and hundreds of thousands were left with the psychological and emotional toll of having been part of a dirty colonial-style war. Trillions of dollars were squandered on a criminal enterprise that enriched politically connected contractors and oil companies, while leaving Iraq’s population in a state of abject misery.

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We all knew this day was coming. Republicans live in a permanent state of delusion. Outside the GOP, the rest of the world knows what happened and who did it. Republicans may try to deflect and scheme, but the jig is up. Everyone knows. This is the worst GOP debacle since, wow, where to begin? There have been so many.

This is the consequence of Bush’s two unwarranted, illegal wars; whatever the outcome in Iraq and Afghanistan. they will forever be the responsibility of GWB, regardless the current administration.

These truthers always claim TWO unwarranted illegal wars. Are truthers even worth a bag of shit?

 

[Camp]

This is the consequence of Bush’s two unwarranted, illegal wars; whatever the outcome in Iraq and Afghanistan. they will forever be the responsibility of GWB, regardless the current administration.

the right wants transparency and accountability .... as long as they aren't included in the mix.

Really?

For 4 years before Obama and 5 years since Obama, all we have heard was "Bush and Cheney; Cheney and Bush. Bush's war, Bushs recession.

ANd, of course my favorite.....

"Whats wrong with him doing that. Bush did it too"

So I am curious....where is Bush not getting the blame and Obama is?

Ever?

Irreparable mistakes are mistakes that can not be repaired. The consequences go on until the issue's they are connected to vanish. Bush made many irreparable mistakes and invading Iraq was one of them. He failed to pay attention to the wisdom of his top military adviser who had vast experience with war and specifically Iraq, Colin Powell. He failed to pay attention to the wisdom of a past President and veteran of fighting and administering war, his father. He instead listened to men with no war experience and invaded Iraq. It was an irreparable mistake. All we can do is attempt to minimize the continued damage that mistake continues to cause. It can never be fixed. It is irreparable. It can not be repaired.

 

[Faun]

Anther Dean-o matic lie.

Provide the direct quotes from Bushe's mouth saying what you accuse him of doing.

Here you are:

We also must never forget the most vivid events of recent history. On September the 11th, 2001, America felt its vulnerability -- even to threats that gather on the other side of the earth. We resolved then, and we are resolved today, to confront every threat, from any source, that could bring sudden terror and suffering to America.

Members of the Congress of both political parties, and members of the United Nations Security Council, agree that Saddam Hussein is a threat to peace and must disarm. We agree that the Iraqi dictator must not be permitted to threaten America and the world with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons. Since we all agree on this goal, the issues is : how can we best achieve it?
President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat

9/11.... Saddam Hussein. Direct quote from Bush.

You're welcome.

As for his question, "How can we best achieve it?" He failed miserably because HE FUCKING LIED.
Iraq: The Media War Plan
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction
The Record on CURVEBALL
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

Welcom for what,not once in that piecel,does Bush directly blame 9/11 on Iraq,the 9/1 reference was an example of what happens when you don't keep the sewer clean.

Work on your reading comp,it will help you greatly.

Now once again provide the direct from Bushes mouth blaming 9/11 on Iraq.

It's really not that difficult to follow along, so I'm not sure why you can't? No one said Bush blamed Iraq for 9.11. Rdean said Bush "linked" Iraq to 9.11. KNB then provided an apt example of Bush doing exactly that. Bush was trying to link the two together as though there was a connection to feign justification for invading Iraq where no such justification existed.

 

[kiwiman127]

This is the consequence of Bush’s two unwarranted, illegal wars; whatever the outcome in Iraq and Afghanistan. they will forever be the responsibility of GWB, regardless the current administration.

the right wants transparency and accountability .... as long as they aren't included in the mix.

Really?

For 4 years before Obama and 5 years since Obama, all we have heard was "Bush and Cheney; Cheney and Bush. Bush's war, Bushs recession.

ANd, of course my favorite.....

"Whats wrong with him doing that. Bush did it too"

So I am curious....where is Bush not getting the blame and Obama is?

Ever?

How about Obamacare or Benghazi!

 

[Stephanie]

and the whining from Obama cult members goes on

dear gawd someone save us

 

[kiwiman127]

and the whining from Obama cult members goes on

dear gawd someone save us

Seems to me, there is plenty-o-whining by both sides of the aisle. It's bipartisanship in action! We don't see much of that here at USMB!

 

[Katzndogz]

When you let horrid terrorists go...

You get ISIS.

You know that ISIS was happy to get 5 of their best planners and commanders back.

It was obama that declared Al quaeda finished. No more war on terror. War on climate change instead.

 

[Stephanie]

He's really posting on what the international PRESS is saying and we are suppose to care about this?

whoa, give Obama another peace prize he done such a wonderful job

the middle EAST IS EXPLODING all around us...He should of been Impeached a long time ago before he could interfere in all these countries

 

[Camp]

Anther Dean-o matic lie.

Provide the direct quotes from Bushe's mouth saying what you accuse him of doing.

Here you are:

We also must never forget the most vivid events of recent history. On September the 11th, 2001, America felt its vulnerability -- even to threats that gather on the other side of the earth. We resolved then, and we are resolved today, to confront every threat, from any source, that could bring sudden terror and suffering to America.

Members of the Congress of both political parties, and members of the United Nations Security Council, agree that Saddam Hussein is a threat to peace and must disarm. We agree that the Iraqi dictator must not be permitted to threaten America and the world with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons. Since we all agree on this goal, the issues is : how can we best achieve it?
President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat

9/11.... Saddam Hussein. Direct quote from Bush.

You're welcome.

As for his question, "How can we best achieve it?" He failed miserably because HE FUCKING LIED.
Iraq: The Media War Plan
U.S. Intelligence and Iraq WMD
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB326/IraqWarPart1-Timeline.pdf
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction
The Record on CURVEBALL
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART I:*The U.S. Prepares for Conflict, 2001
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART II: Was There Even a Decision?
THE IRAQ WAR -- PART III: Shaping the Debate

Welcom for what,not once in that piecel,does Bush directly blame 9/11 on Iraq,the 9/1 reference was an example of what happens when you don't keep the sewer clean.

Work on your reading comp,it will help you greatly.

Now once again provide the direct from Bushes mouth blaming 9/11 on Iraq.

He let his minions make the direct suggestions of a connection between Iraq and al Qaeda, particularly his VP Cheney. When questioned directly by the press about the connection Bush would answer with Iraq WMD's which implied or indicated the potential of some kind of collusion was possible between Saddam and Bin Laden.

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=xy6NuOZplWg]Former Bush Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff: 'Iraq War Based on Lies' - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=YPJCPcYCupY]WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld - THE ULTIMATE CLIP (Edited) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Faun]

He's really posting on what the international PRESS is saying and we are suppose to care about this?

whoa, give Obama another peace prize he done such a wonderful job

the middle EAST IS EXPLODING all around us...He should of been Impeached a long time ago before he could interfere in all these countries

Who could have seen that coming after Bush lit the fuse, igniting the Middle East?

Oh, wait ... the Librule media, that's who. Yeah, they predicted this outcome back in 2008 ....

Overview: The Iraq War - New York Times

Let's roll," Steph!

 

[tinydancer]

Oh fuck off liberals. League of Nations. Let's get back to really where it all started you idiots.

NOW can we get back to the here and now you morons. We have a real issue on our hands you fools. Called the worst terror group ever. ISIS.

 

[tinydancer]

OK so Obama let him go in 2009 and has allowed him to flourish and build an army of 12,000 plus on his watch.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[tinydancer]

So Obama has given this guy a pass because he wanted Assad killed so Obama/Qatar/Saudis could put in some one else.

 

[tinydancer]

So Obama why do you love the Sunnis so much? And hate the Shias? I've been on so many websites today. Shia websites.

 

[bedowin62]

what is the "international press" you moronic left-wing idiot?

 

[bedowin62]

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[tinydancer]

He's really posting on what the international PRESS is saying and we are suppose to care about this?

whoa, give Obama another peace prize he done such a wonderful job

the middle EAST IS EXPLODING all around us...He should of been Impeached a long time ago before he could interfere in all these countries

Who could have seen that coming after Bush lit the fuse, igniting the Middle East?

Oh, wait ... the Librule media, that's who. Yeah, they predicted this outcome back in 2008 ....

Overview: The Iraq War - New York Times

Let's roll," Steph!

Well I'll start off with League of Nations but come on here. Colonialism at its finest with the Brits/French/ sometimes Spain. Portugal was right up there as well.

You weren't even a speck on the planet at the time.