God isn't pro-life

Delta4Embassy

Gold Member
Dec 12, 2013
25,744
3,043
280
Earth
So often we hear folks on the pro-life anti-abortion side using their religion as their reasoning. Odd consider the Bible has no problem whatsoever with abortion (using terms of the time) or slaughtering children and pregnant women.

God s Not Pro-Life

"Abortion:

Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?



Infanticide:

1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless "suckling" infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.

Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.

Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.



The murdering of children:

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.

Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

2 Kings 6:28-29 “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.”

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

Judges 19:24-29 “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” To put it very bluntly this poor, young lady was murdered by her mate for being raped.

Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh. And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place. Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?

Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai. They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.

2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.”

1 Samuel 15:11-18 God repents of having made Saul king since Saul refused to carry out God’s commandments (i.e., Saul refused to murder all the innocent women and children.) At least god realizes what an immoral, murderous pig he is on this one.

I Kings 16:34 Laying the foundation for a city using your firstborn child and using your youngest son to set up the gates.

Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.

Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children."
 
YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT OF CONTEXT, ALL OF THOSE CAN BE SAFELY IGNORED. - Brace yourself, I'm here with you though, religious hypocrisy is a strange thing.
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
So you let your child play with dangerous things because you don't want to be mean? Or do you snatch the dangerous toy away from the child, causing her to cry and be mad at you because her new toy is gone and she doesn't understand why you took it away?
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
So you let your child play with dangerous things because you don't want to be mean?
No, but I don't brutalize them with mass murder.
 
Let's turn this around then, if in being against abortion, what religious reasoning or Scripture do you cite that supports your claim your religion is against abortion?
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.

I don't believ ein gods no. But I can hold a Bible in my palm so I do believe in Bibles.
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
So you let your child play with dangerous things because you don't want to be mean?
No, but I don't brutalize them with mass murder.
Your children are not a nation. Bigger people group, bigger responsibilities. The bottom line is this, God has rights and responsibilities you don't. Put it another way. If you discover that your neighbor has killed someone and you kill him, you go to jail. An executioner who does the same thing gets in no trouble at all. If you see someone steal something from a store, put them in handcuffs and lock them in a room, you go to jail. A policeman who does the same thing gets lauded.
 
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
So you let your child play with dangerous things because you don't want to be mean?
No, but I don't brutalize them with mass murder.
Your children are not a nation. Bigger people group, bigger responsibilities. The bottom line is this, God has rights and responsibilities you don't. Put it another way. If you discover that your neighbor has killed someone and you kill him, you go to jail. An executioner who does the same thing gets in no trouble at all. If you see someone steal something from a store, put them in handcuffs and lock them in a room, you go to jail. A policeman who does the same thing gets lauded.
God supposedly killed 42 children for a mistake they made, as fucking children,, and massacred children, you can try to justify the bullshit all you want, I'm not brainwashed.
 
Let's turn this around then, if in being against abortion, what religious reasoning or Scripture do you cite that supports your claim your religion is against abortion?

For starters,

Psalm 139:13
Isaiah 49:1
Jeremiah 1:5
Galatians 1:15
Luke 1:15

Put those together and you cannot support the ending of developing human life in the womb.
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.

I don't believ ein gods no. But I can hold a Bible in my palm so I do believe in Bibles.
Cool. Then you should allow me to teach you how to read them.

Will accept you as my teacher when you prove you're smarter by showing me religious support for an anti-abortion position.
 
It's always amusing to watch those who insist there is no God lecture those who believe there is on how to read and interpret Scripture. Always.
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
So you let your child play with dangerous things because you don't want to be mean?
No, but I don't brutalize them with mass murder.


Hey, wait a second, aren't you a Marxists?
 
Yeah, not like they're are literally tens of thousands of different christian subgroups who all interpret it differently, how do you interpret all of the above passages? Are they all just fucking metaphors?
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
So you let your child play with dangerous things because you don't want to be mean?
No, but I don't brutalize them with mass murder.


Hey, wait a second, aren't you a Marxists?
A marxist who doesn't support any of the brutal policies done by stalin/mao/etc.
 
They are commands to the Nation of Israel on how to deal with specific people groups that were opposing them. Let's put it this way. You tell your son that he is not allowed to grab things out of his little sister's hand, because it's not nice. You see the little girl holding a lit match. Do you grab it out of her hand because you are not nice, or because you are the adult and have rights and responsibilities your children do not have? Or perhaps, because you don't want your children to think you are not nice, you say nothing and hope she doesn't get hurt?
LOL.
Then god is a sick fucking bastard.
2 Kings 2:23-24
So you let your child play with dangerous things because you don't want to be mean?
No, but I don't brutalize them with mass murder.
Your children are not a nation. Bigger people group, bigger responsibilities. The bottom line is this, God has rights and responsibilities you don't. Put it another way. If you discover that your neighbor has killed someone and you kill him, you go to jail. An executioner who does the same thing gets in no trouble at all. If you see someone steal something from a store, put them in handcuffs and lock them in a room, you go to jail. A policeman who does the same thing gets lauded.
God supposedly killed 42 children for a mistake they made, as fucking children,, and massacred children, you can try to justify the bullshit all you want, I'm not brainwashed.
You're also relying on a mere mention of an event which you didn't witness, and likely don't even believe happened. IOW, prove they made a mistake and didn't do a bunch of other stuff.
 

Forum List

Back
Top