God has all attributes including evil iniquity.

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    God has all attributes including evil iniquity.

    Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

    Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    Ephesians 3:8-10 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

    God created the attribute of iniquity and placed that capability in Satan. The above quote seems to show iniquity as capable of negating perfection yet scriptures show that perfection is never ending. If it could end, then even God’s perfection would be at risk and this condition is one that God would never create.

    All concepts were created for God’s pleasure.

    What pleasure do you think God gets from iniquity?

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    And, as the late philosopher, Carlin, once famously asked, "If God is all powerful, can HE create a Rock so heavy that even He cannot lift it?"
     
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    The answer would be yes, if that God actually existed.

    I know this surprises you but if you give it thought, from the perspective of God, it is easy enough to dither out how he could do it.

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    Wrong.

    If He is ALL powerful there would be NOTHING he could not lift.

    But if there is nothing He could not lift, than He must not be powerful ENOUGH to create the rock in question. Either conclusion defeats the major premise.

    What is surprising is that you don't grasp that.
     
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    Ever hear of a concept called "balance"? You've got to have the bad to go with the good, especially if you have created beings with free will, because if there is no bad, then no person could choose it.

    And...........if you were incapable of choosing bad (because there is none), then you are by proxy being forced to be good.

    But............it does say in various Judaic writings that eventually there is going to be a time when evil is no longer required, and God is going to wink all of it from existence.
     
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    Takes big balls to question what God has or doesn't have.
     
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    I do not believe in any God, much less the one God, Almighty Creator, who would condemn anybody for asking such questions.

    The God whom I recognize could not be and would never be as petty as mere mortal man.
     
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    I have just heard it so often I devised a scenario to get around it.

    As with many scenarios created to explain imaginary Gods, it gets weird.

    Imagine yourself with God and asking him to create a stone he cannot lift. Poof there it is.
    Aha you say, you are not all powerful if you cannot lift that rock.
    No problem says God. Poof, another miracle makes him twice as powerful and he lifts the stone.

    With a God with a pocket full of miracles, anything is possible.
    That is the beauty of imagination.

    Unfortunately, believers have used the same twisted logic to believe in their imaginary God.

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    Fail.

    If He can make Himself even stronger (a) He wasn't ALL powerful in the first place and (b) He still failed to make a rock so heavy that even He couldn't lift it.

    but I will give you some points for creative thinking.
     
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    You're right...........it does take big balls.

    Check out the story of Abraham sometime.
     

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