God Does Not Exist, And I Hate Him So Much That I Will Devote My Entire Life To Destroying Him

[cnm]

Do you always put the cart before the horse?

It's your trail of breadcrumbs, that 'God' came from the unexplored heavens or have you forgotten your facile arguments already?

 

[cnm]

What did each specie evolve from?

A common ancestor. That's what the evidence points to. What does your faith say?

 

[cnm]

What did each specie evolve from?

How have we arrived at the present distribution of species, according to your faith?

 

[cnm]

It's hard to say how long each species has been on earth. No matter.

No, it is the whole matter. Does your faith say YHWH created different species at different times?

 

[harmonica]

The best you can do are childish insults and NO factual refutation of the evidence offered
--you have offered no evidence either--which makes you a hypocrite
AND there is nothing to refute--you have proved nothing

You are lying and YOU are the hypocrite. Here is the evidence. It HAS been provided many times here and on other threads. Now refute it:

that is not proof of god ..there is no proof of creation or god --none at all

You cannot get something from nothing.

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Do you always put the cart before the horse?

It's your trail of breadcrumbs, that 'God' came from the unexplored heavens or have you forgotten your facile arguments already?

I'm not addressing where God came from. It is a big enough struggle to get you to focus on creation v. evolution.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

What did each specie evolve from?

A common ancestor. That's what the evidence points to. What does your faith say?

Many ancestors ago, the matter which makes up life had a point of origin.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

What did each specie evolve from?

How have we arrived at the present distribution of species, according to your faith?

Honestly, I don't have a good answer for you since the one that is most obvious (that would work for you) doesn't hold up to critical thinking since a lot of animal life goes extinct simply because it was not designed to live and procreate in a given environment.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You are lying and YOU are the hypocrite. Here is the evidence. It HAS been provided many times here and on other threads. Now refute it:

that is not proof of god ..there is no proof of creation or god --none at all

You cannot get something from nothing.

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

 

[BreezeWood]

that is not proof of god ..there is no proof of creation or god --none at all

You cannot get something from nothing.

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

.

... and to saying to Hell with God.

it is you who will not say to hell with the forged, 4th century christian bible - and its uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent since that time to the present day.

do you really believe the 1st century religious itinerant made the accusation that everyone is a hopeless sinner and their only salvation was through him and not their own responsibility ... when in earlier times the path to salvation was stipulated as their choice to make - between good and evil - for admission to the Everlasting.

it's either or rockwell and only one choice is the logical conclusion.

 

[harmonica]

that is not proof of god ..there is no proof of creation or god --none at all

You cannot get something from nothing.

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

..the bible was written by men thousands of years ago!! the bible is like any other book written by men--it can be interpreted many ways

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You cannot get something from nothing.

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

.

... and to saying to Hell with God.

it is you who will not say to hell with the forged, 4th century christian bible - and its uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent since that time to the present day.

do you really believe the 1st century religious itinerant made the accusation that everyone is a hopeless sinner and their only salvation was through him and not their own responsibility ... when in earlier times the path to salvation was stipulated as their choice to make - between good and evil - for admission to the Everlasting.

it's either or rockwell and only one choice is the logical conclusion.

Your skeptical criticisms make me only ask the same questions I've already asked - and got no answer for. And, let's face it. You are one of those who claims to hate something you don't believe exists. Seems that YOU have a problem.

There are a lot more interpretations than yours, so I trust others are smart enough to bear that in mind.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You cannot get something from nothing.

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

..the bible was written by men thousands of years ago!! the bible is like any other book written by men--it can be interpreted many ways

Some parts of it can be interpreted many ways, but it can be interpreted correctly.

Proverbs 25:2 "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter"

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

.

... and to saying to Hell with God.

it is you who will not say to hell with the forged, 4th century christian bible - and its uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent since that time to the present day.

do you really believe the 1st century religious itinerant made the accusation that everyone is a hopeless sinner and their only salvation was through him and not their own responsibility ... when in earlier times the path to salvation was stipulated as their choice to make - between good and evil - for admission to the Everlasting.

it's either or rockwell and only one choice is the logical conclusion.

Your skeptical criticisms make me only ask the same questions I've already asked - and got no answer for. And, let's face it. You are one of those who claims to hate something you don't believe exists. Seems that YOU have a problem.

There are a lot more interpretations than yours, so I trust others are smart enough to bear that in mind.

It would be pretty cool if a truly benevolent god or gods existed.

But your freakish iron age fake sky demon most certainly is not that.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

.

... and to saying to Hell with God.

it is you who will not say to hell with the forged, 4th century christian bible - and its uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent since that time to the present day.

do you really believe the 1st century religious itinerant made the accusation that everyone is a hopeless sinner and their only salvation was through him and not their own responsibility ... when in earlier times the path to salvation was stipulated as their choice to make - between good and evil - for admission to the Everlasting.

it's either or rockwell and only one choice is the logical conclusion.

Your skeptical criticisms make me only ask the same questions I've already asked - and got no answer for. And, let's face it. You are one of those who claims to hate something you don't believe exists. Seems that YOU have a problem.

There are a lot more interpretations than yours, so I trust others are smart enough to bear that in mind.

It would be pretty cool if a truly benevolent god or gods existed.

But your freakish iron age fake sky demon most certainly is not that.

I think you worry about it too much. Maybe your version of God failed you, but if you really did not care; if it were that unimportant, this issue would not be worth the time and effort you expend worrying about what I believe in.

Berating and belittling people doesn't convert them. Condescending language and the inability to respect the rights of others will not convert those searching for the truth and have no leanings either way. I'm thinking you can string a couple of sentences together so you have to have something going on between your ears.

So something's off. Why invest your time to argue with people over a God you claim not to believe in? Like it or not, one day you will die. We all do. You're heavily invested in this and you treat it like a personal crusade, but not one where people would be so inclined to jump on your bandwagon. You see the caliber of guys with their sockpuppets trying to use phony force multipliers to make it look like they have a bigger following than they do.

I'm not worth arguing with. You cannot change my mind as I KNOW things that you may or may not ever get to experience in a way that I have. Your methods could not convert others. When you have to talk down to people when you disagree with them, those with no opinion, but questions are immediately turned off by your approach. At best, you have an echo chamber - and when I did argue with one guy, he created multiple accounts here and still lost (by popular vote) any phony debate that was cooking between his ears. I got so tired of pummeling him into the ground over the facts, I requested the thread be locked.

And now, with you, it's the same song and dance every day. I post links; you ignore them and just want the argument that a simpleton would make. So, are you trying to convince me OR yourself?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Maybe your version of God failed you

I don't have a "version of God". I see no reason whatsoever to believe in any magical sky daddies.

Berating and belittling people doesn't convert them.

So? I am not belittling the principle of theism, nor am I trying to convert anyone away from theism. I am belittling and mocking the retarded dogma that always seems to be attached to and weigh down theism like a steaming pile of baby shit in a full diaper.

 

[BreezeWood]

..THAT is not proof either---you don't get it ...babbling crap is not proof of god/etc
...the other thing is humans cannot even begin to scratch the surface of understanding ''creation''/god/etc..you don't ''know'' what god is ..you people just make up things and imagine things

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

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... and to saying to Hell with God.

it is you who will not say to hell with the forged, 4th century christian bible - and its uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent since that time to the present day.

do you really believe the 1st century religious itinerant made the accusation that everyone is a hopeless sinner and their only salvation was through him and not their own responsibility ... when in earlier times the path to salvation was stipulated as their choice to make - between good and evil - for admission to the Everlasting.

it's either or rockwell and only one choice is the logical conclusion.

Your skeptical criticisms make me only ask the same questions I've already asked - and got no answer for. And, let's face it. You are one of those who claims to hate something you don't believe exists. Seems that YOU have a problem.

There are a lot more interpretations than yours, so I trust others are smart enough to bear that in mind.

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Your skeptical criticisms make me only ask the same questions I've already asked - and got no answer for. And, let's face it. You are one of those who claims to hate something you don't believe exists. Seems that YOU have a problem.

what's your question, rockwell -

what I believe does not exist is 4th century christianity they spent an entire century putting together 4 centuries after the occurrences that haven't a shred of verifiable evidence for any of its religious based claims and is used as a political cludgeon by a select few people for their own personal benefit.

Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.

in what century do you point to for a positive advancement for humanity caused by the stewardship of christianity.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Maybe your version of God failed you

I don't have a "version of God". I see no reason whatsoever to believe in any magical sky daddies.

Berating and belittling people doesn't convert them.

So? I am not belittling the principle of theism, nor am I trying to convert anyone away from theism. I am belittling and mocking the retarded dogma that always seems to be attached to and weigh down theism like a steaming pile of baby shit in a full diaper.

You aren't even fooling yourself. You don't know how every sect of Christians approach the issues and you've been afraid to explore it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You don't know how every sect of Christians approach the issues and you've been afraid to explore it.

Afraid? What? Have I also been afraid to explore Zoroastrianism? Hinduism?

I agree many Christians do approach it differently. No doubt, I love some of the approaches. Just as they are all cafeteria Christians, I am a cafeteria appreciator of them and their approaches.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I'm not making up anything and your skepticism shows that you did not look at the evidence offered. The scientist takes your views into account without belittling them. Just like your belief system, you don't have any proof beyond the shadow of a doubt. We both accept our premise on faith at the end of the day and we can discuss the differences and allow others to come to their conclusions based on the facts we present, not who can best the other is clownish pissing match.

.....what do I need proof for?? I'm not claiming something [ there is a god ] ....I don't need proof
give me the the critical/important/etc '''facts''' that prove there is a god

I believe in a God because of the simple fact that I cannot explain how you get something from nothing. Every strand of DNA, every piece of matter, all that exists does so because something brought it into existence.

The Bible not only declares a WHO brought it into existence, but its history and more importantly a precise prophecy as to the future of the people to whom the Bible is written. When I used to study the prophecies of people like Cayce and Nostradamus, the events were so vague that they could have been applied to anything and / or the prophecy happened and THEN people ascribed the meaning to some mysterious prophetic event. Contrast that to something written thousands of years ago that the descendants of Ishmael (Muslims, for the most part) would always be at war with each other and with the rest of the world and rest of the world would be at war with them.

I've been more than forthcoming with my answers to you. I'd like to ask you to think about something here:

You've berated me because I believe. If I'm right, there will be an afterlife. I can be reunited with loved ones. I keep the laws and I'm in pretty good shape. A quick anecdotal story illustrates it. A few months ago I was attacked by a guy half my age and larger than me. He throws a belt around my neck and I'm a 63 year old smaller guy in a fight with a 31 year old. The fight ends with him having his wrist broken in two places and a fractured arm.

Thank God for dietary laws and the blessings of self esteem and knowledge. I get a lot in return for the belief in God and being obedient to the laws. Yet it means so much to you to destroy that. I've bet my life on the hereafter and am having a decent life while here. Pardon me, but you seem miserable. Look at the company around you.

Your lives are so bad you can't articulate the benefits of just doing what you want and to saying to Hell with God. And it really bothers you that I do believe. If my ass had ignored the laws of God and health, I'd be like the majority of people - bad health, poor decisions and fretting over people - even having to call them names because they believe that story about the man "man in the moon." I did, I'm right and I was blessed on earth and will be even more blessed in heaven. If I'm wrong, what was the cost? You disbelieve; you're miserable which is why you invest your time so heavily to denigrate God. What happens if you die and you're wrong? What is the cost to believe?

.

... and to saying to Hell with God.

it is you who will not say to hell with the forged, 4th century christian bible - and its uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent since that time to the present day.

do you really believe the 1st century religious itinerant made the accusation that everyone is a hopeless sinner and their only salvation was through him and not their own responsibility ... when in earlier times the path to salvation was stipulated as their choice to make - between good and evil - for admission to the Everlasting.

it's either or rockwell and only one choice is the logical conclusion.

Your skeptical criticisms make me only ask the same questions I've already asked - and got no answer for. And, let's face it. You are one of those who claims to hate something you don't believe exists. Seems that YOU have a problem.

There are a lot more interpretations than yours, so I trust others are smart enough to bear that in mind.

.

Your skeptical criticisms make me only ask the same questions I've already asked - and got no answer for. And, let's face it. You are one of those who claims to hate something you don't believe exists. Seems that YOU have a problem.

what's your question, rockwell -

what I believe does not exist is 4th century christianity they spent an entire century putting together 4 centuries after the occurrences that haven't a shred of verifiable evidence for any of its religious based claims and is used as a political cludgeon by a select few people for their own personal benefit.

Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.

in what century do you point to for a positive advancement for humanity caused by the stewardship of christianity.

You try to derail my threads with your insanity and multiple posters kick your ass. Rehashing your fully refuted positions isn't going to change anything. You could not disprove it the last time - even with your main identity and this sockpuppet account you've created.

Unfortunately, this is a discussion forum, NOT a debate forum and here you get to make this shit a full time job. Some of us actually have a life. You atheists don't seem to have anything else to do all day and I'm not interested in you, your antics, nor your games. If anyone wants to see where you get totally destroyed - PM me and I'll show them. Multiple posters have dismantled your silliness and they've done so repeatedly.