Zone1 bad news for liberals: God hates abortion, and here is scripture to back that up

[Cougarbear]

all are equal in the heavens, there are no heavenly commandments on planet earth, the jews are all liars the garden is most important not humanity nor even their presence.

Says who?

 

[Cougarbear]

I expect God to lead by example

God is no respector of men. So, you cannot demand his respect. We are subject to God in the long run.

 

[rightwinger]

God is no respector of men. So, you cannot demand his respect. We are subject to God in the long run.

I hold God to a higher standard than mortal men

If he can’t hold up, he deserves to be criticized

 

[Cougarbear]

I hold God to a higher standard than mortal men

If he can’t hold up, he deserves to be criticized

You can’t hold God to any standard. You aren’t God. He sets our standards. Lucifer thought like you and was thrusted out of Heaven to be condemned forever. Get a clue. You aren’t God.

 

[rightwinger]

You can’t hold God to any standard. You aren’t God. He sets our standards. Lucifer thought like you and was thrusted out of Heaven to be condemned forever. Get a clue. You aren’t God.

Of course I can

If God can’t follow the same standards he demands of us, he does not deserve our worship.

 

[Cougarbear]

Of course I can

If God can’t follow the same standards he demands of us, he does not deserve our worship.

Nope. The Bible specifically says God is no respecter of men. This means we cannot hold him to any standard. He can as you say, wipe mankind and everything else off the face of the earth at anytime. You have no control whatsoever over God.

 

[rightwinger]

Nope. The Bible specifically says God is no respecter of men. This means we cannot hold him to any standard. He can as you say, wipe mankind and everything else off the face of the earth at anytime. You have no control whatsoever over God.

Not much of a God if he can’t follow the standards he demands of us

 

[Cougarbear]

Not much of a God if he can’t follow the standards he demands of us

You have no big picture of why he does what he does and ask us to do. He doesn’t care what you think. Be has tens of billions of children to deal with and doesn’t respect your thoughts because they show your lack of faith in him. You can’t demand of God. He is your judge and will punish you for your puffy pride. You cannot punish him and therefore you cannot demand a thing.

 

[rightwinger]

Why would anyone worship a God under such conditions?

You need to find a new religion

 

[Cougarbear]

Why would anyone worship a God under such conditions?

You need to find a new religion

Because He’s Gid and has set the His Plan in motion. Best to know exactly his plan and follow it. He doesn’t respect your lack of faith and unwillingness to know His Plan. I do know.

 

[Care4all]

There are many scriptures to back this up. There is Moses and the 10 Commandments (not Suggestions!) wherein we are told not to MURDER

But I was reading some of the Mass readings for this month (possibly next month, cannot recall off the top of my head)

and I came across

Psalm 106 (parts directly referring to the murder of one's children [abortion] are highlighted in green)


In the camp they envied Moses,

as well as Aaron, the holy one of the LORD.

17The earth opened up and swallowed [the Moses-defying] Dathan;

it covered the assembly of Abiram.

18Then fire blazed through their company;

flames consumed the wicked.

19At Horebc they made a calf

and worshiped a molten image.

20They exchanged their Gloryd

for the image of a grass-eating ox.

21They forgot God their Savior,

who did great things in Egypt,

22wondrous works in the land of Ham,

and awesome deeds by the Red Sea.

23So He said He would destroy them—

had not Moses His chosen one

stood before Him in the breach

to divert His wrath from destroying them.

24They despised the pleasant land;

they did not believe His promise.

25They grumbled in their tents

and did not listen to the voice of the LORD.

26So He raised His hand and swore

to cast them down in the wilderness,

27to dispersee their offspring among the nations

and scatter them throughout the lands.

28They yoked themselves to Baal of Peor

and ate sacrifices offered to lifeless gods.

29So they provoked the LORD to anger with their deeds,

and a plague broke out among them.

30But Phinehas stood and intervened,

and the plague was restrained.

31It was credited to him as righteousness

for endless generations to come.

32At the waters of Meribahf they angered the LORD,

and trouble came to Moses because of them.

33For they rebelled against His Spirit,g

and Moses spoke rashly with his lips.

34They did not destroy the peoples

as the LORD had commanded them,

35but they mingled with the nations

and adopted their customs.

36They worshiped their idols,

which became a snare to them.

37They sacrificed their sons

and their daughters to demons.

38They shed innocent blood—

the blood of their sons and daughters,

whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan,

and the land was polluted with blood.

39They defiled themselves by their actions

and prostituted themselves by their deeds.

40So the anger of the LORD burned against His people,

and He abhorred His own inheritance.

41He delivered them into the hand of the nations,

and those who hated them ruled over them.

42Their enemies oppressed them,

and subdued them under their hand.

43Many times He rescued them,

but they were bent on rebellion

and sank down in their iniquity.

That is not about abortion, Misery.

 

[Cougarbear]

That is not about abortion, Misery.

Sure is. Misery because of abortion.

 

[Red Front]

Says nothing about abortion
They knew what a baby in the womb meant and said nothing about it

God, himself killed innocent babies and children

The Bible does nothing more than slander God. It portrays him as a genocidal, xenophobic monster rather than a truly loving and just God.

 

[Cougarbear]

The Bible does nothing more than slander God. It portrays him as a genocidal, xenophobic monster rather than a truly loving and just God.

You say this because you have no clue of what His plan is for the Universe. If you did you would not be judging the God that will judge you in the end. We will be judged by the level of faith we have in God.

 

[Red Front]

So now murdering a baby is not murder if it is done inside the womb

Boy, these liberals certainly know how to justify their EVIL

Well, God is not impressed.

Ten biblical episodes and prophecies provide an unequivocal expression of God's attitude toward human life, especially the ontological status of "unborn children" and their pregnant mothers-to-be. Brief summaries:

• A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).

• The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).

• God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).

• Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12).

• King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16).

• Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18).

• For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).

• God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).

• For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).

• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).

We know that God killed millions of unborn children and their pregnant mothers-to-be in Noah's flood, the conquest of Canaan, the incineration of Sodom and Gomorrah, and in 20 major slaughters described in the bible. The critical feature of these horrific events is that all people were exterminated. Whenever entire communities were massacred, we can be sure that pregnant mothers-to-be and their unborn children were among the victims. Moreover, there are no stated exemptions for this specific segment of the population.

It can be concluded from this ghastly program of human annihilation that the God of the bible is the greatest mass murderer in history and that he does not care about unborn children or living children or living adults. If God really opposes abortion, why didn't he just say so? Why didn't he authorize one of his trusted spokesmen—Moses, Jesus or Paul—to issue a definitive statement on the subject?

 

[Cougarbear]

Ten biblical episodes and prophecies provide an unequivocal expression of God's attitude toward human life, especially the ontological status of "unborn children" and their pregnant mothers-to-be. Brief summaries:

• A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).

• The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).

• God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).

• Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12).

• King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16).

• Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18).

• For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).

• God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).

• For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).

• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).

We know that God killed millions of unborn children and their pregnant mothers-to-be in Noah's flood, the conquest of Canaan, the incineration of Sodom and Gomorrah, and in 20 major slaughters described in the bible. The critical feature of these horrific events is that all people were exterminated. Whenever entire communities were massacred, we can be sure that pregnant mothers-to-be and their unborn children were among the victims. Moreover, there are no stated exemptions for this specific segment of the population.

It can be concluded from this ghastly program of human annihilation that the God of the bible is the greatest mass murderer in history and that he does not care about unborn children or living children or living adults. If God really opposes abortion, why didn't he just say so? Why didn't he authorize one of his trusted spokesmen—Moses, Jesus or Paul—to issue a definitive statement on the subject?

Let me rebuttal your statement that because the unborn human is property it is not a person. Not even 3/5 a human? Yep, Blacks were bought and paid for as property of their slave owners. I would say they were also persons. Don’t you?

 

[Moonglow]

There are many scriptures to back this up. There is Moses and the 10 Commandments (not Suggestions!) wherein we are told not to MURDER

But I was reading some of the Mass readings for this month (possibly next month, cannot recall off the top of my head)

and I came across

Psalm 106 (parts directly referring to the murder of one's children [abortion] are highlighted in green)


In the camp they envied Moses,

as well as Aaron, the holy one of the LORD.

17The earth opened up and swallowed [the Moses-defying] Dathan;

it covered the assembly of Abiram.

18Then fire blazed through their company;

flames consumed the wicked.

19At Horebc they made a calf

and worshiped a molten image.

20They exchanged their Gloryd

for the image of a grass-eating ox.

21They forgot God their Savior,

who did great things in Egypt,

22wondrous works in the land of Ham,

and awesome deeds by the Red Sea.

23So He said He would destroy them—

had not Moses His chosen one

stood before Him in the breach

to divert His wrath from destroying them.

24They despised the pleasant land;

they did not believe His promise.

25They grumbled in their tents

and did not listen to the voice of the LORD.

26So He raised His hand and swore

to cast them down in the wilderness,

27to dispersee their offspring among the nations

and scatter them throughout the lands.

28They yoked themselves to Baal of Peor

and ate sacrifices offered to lifeless gods.

29So they provoked the LORD to anger with their deeds,

and a plague broke out among them.

30But Phinehas stood and intervened,

and the plague was restrained.

31It was credited to him as righteousness

for endless generations to come.

32At the waters of Meribahf they angered the LORD,

and trouble came to Moses because of them.

33For they rebelled against His Spirit,g

and Moses spoke rashly with his lips.

34They did not destroy the peoples

as the LORD had commanded them,

35but they mingled with the nations

and adopted their customs.

36They worshiped their idols,

which became a snare to them.

37They sacrificed their sons

and their daughters to demons.

38They shed innocent blood—

the blood of their sons and daughters,

whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan,

and the land was polluted with blood.

39They defiled themselves by their actions

and prostituted themselves by their deeds.

40So the anger of the LORD burned against His people,

and He abhorred His own inheritance.

41He delivered them into the hand of the nations,

and those who hated them ruled over them.

42Their enemies oppressed them,

and subdued them under their hand.

43Many times He rescued them,

but they were bent on rebellion

and sank down in their iniquity.

Nope, this is not about abortion it's about human sacrifice

 

[BreezeWood]

all are equal in the heavens, there are no heavenly commandments on planet earth, the jews are all liars the garden is most important not humanity nor even their presence.

Says who?

provide the tablets the liar moses claimed were etched in the heavens w/ 10 commandments - they never existed ...

nor the heredity idolatry claimed by abraham nor the 4th century christian bible written by the crucifiers without the teachings of jesus - liberation theology, self determination.

the desert dwellers alone are the sinners, liars that persecute and victimize the innocent for their own personal benefit - c-bear.

 

[Cougarbear]

provide the tablets the liar moses claimed were etched in the heavens w/ 10 commandments - they never existed ...

nor the heredity idolatry claimed by abraham nor the 4th century christian bible written by the crucifiers without the teachings of jesus - liberation theology, self determination.

the desert dwellers alone are the sinners, liars that persecute and victimize the innocent for their own personal benefit - c-bear.

We don’t need the tablets. We have the words from them. And therefore they exist.

 

[BreezeWood]

We don’t need the tablets. We have the words from them. And therefore they exist.

they who rely on lies ...

there are no tablets for words to be taken from them - just the lies of religious zealots, moses abraham and all those other liars the crucifiers who murdered jesus and those that repudiated judaism in the 1st century for their purpose to make subservient as to persecute and victimize the innocent ... c-bear..