Mr Natural
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Got any idea of what a privately owned military would cost us?
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Wow, not only have you lunatics now claimed that the US Military is incompetent, you've managed to pave the way for a full-on corporate oligarchy here in the US.
Nice work!
Hey, I know, why don't we just sell half the country to Halliburton, and the other half to Exxon/Mobil?
At least that way we'd make some money on the deal, before giving up our way of life to bow to the corporate overlords.
Nice to know where your true motivations lie though.
I hope you morons really get what is being said here. (Oh and fuck all of you who say our military is substandard and needs to be privatized. Fuck you...)
Got any idea of what a privately owned military would cost us?
It would happen much faster with a privatized military Observer.
Truth......privatize the military, and the country has about 3 years.
And no, healthcare isn't going to fracture the US, it's going to be the fear mongering by the GOP.
When people are scared, they get stupid, trust me.
If you start building American arms from American steel, we'll talk.If we did not maintain a platinum plated military with the capacity to project power at a moments notice everywhere and anywhere on the globe, perhaps we could get a good hold on government spending.
Funny how Conservatives always want to make cuts in programs which directly benefit Americans, but never ever suggest cuts be made in the defense budget. Conservatives want tax cuts, but never ever suggest how those cuts will be paid for.
Defense programs don't directly benefit Americans? Where do you think F-22s and MRAPs and MREs and uniforms and warships come from...they're found under cabbage leaves?
I thought liberals were for the working man. Why do you want to put so many people out of work?
If you start building American arms from American steel, we'll talk.If we did not maintain a platinum plated military with the capacity to project power at a moments notice everywhere and anywhere on the globe, perhaps we could get a good hold on government spending.
Funny how Conservatives always want to make cuts in programs which directly benefit Americans, but never ever suggest cuts be made in the defense budget. Conservatives want tax cuts, but never ever suggest how those cuts will be paid for.
Defense programs don't directly benefit Americans? Where do you think F-22s and MRAPs and MREs and uniforms and warships come from...they're found under cabbage leaves?
I thought liberals were for the working man. Why do you want to put so many people out of work?
Hundreds of defense contractors are using illegal foreign metals in weapons systems | Manufacturing & Technology News | Find Articles at BNETIf you start building American arms from American steel, we'll talk.Defense programs don't directly benefit Americans? Where do you think F-22s and MRAPs and MREs and uniforms and warships come from...they're found under cabbage leaves?
I thought liberals were for the working man. Why do you want to put so many people out of work?
what % of U.S. arms are built with foreign steel?
You can thank the unions for that.If you start building American arms from American steel, we'll talk.If we did not maintain a platinum plated military with the capacity to project power at a moments notice everywhere and anywhere on the globe, perhaps we could get a good hold on government spending.
Funny how Conservatives always want to make cuts in programs which directly benefit Americans, but never ever suggest cuts be made in the defense budget. Conservatives want tax cuts, but never ever suggest how those cuts will be paid for.
Defense programs don't directly benefit Americans? Where do you think F-22s and MRAPs and MREs and uniforms and warships come from...they're found under cabbage leaves?
I thought liberals were for the working man. Why do you want to put so many people out of work?
yeah. sure. the unions put the American steel industry on a ship and sent it to Singapore. You really believe this? But, more directly, are you willing to convince me, a resident of the Rust Belt, that such an argument can hold water?You can thank the unions for that.If you start building American arms from American steel, we'll talk.Defense programs don't directly benefit Americans? Where do you think F-22s and MRAPs and MREs and uniforms and warships come from...they're found under cabbage leaves?
I thought liberals were for the working man. Why do you want to put so many people out of work?
Mercenaries are paid a hell of a lot more than regular military are.Got any idea of what a privately owned military would cost us?
Oh, I'm willing to convince you. But you're not willing to be convinced.yeah. sure. the unions put the American steel industry on a ship and sent it to Singapore. You really believe this? But, more directly, are you willing to convince me, a resident of the Rust Belt, that such an argument can hold water?You can thank the unions for that.If you start building American arms from American steel, we'll talk.
Go ahead and enthrall me with your knowledge of the history of the American steel industry.Oh, I'm willing to convince you. But you're not willing to be convinced.yeah. sure. the unions put the American steel industry on a ship and sent it to Singapore. You really believe this? But, more directly, are you willing to convince me, a resident of the Rust Belt, that such an argument can hold water?You can thank the unions for that.
Most of europe's arms aren't built in Europe. This is an argument for.... what?If you start building American arms from American steel, we'll talk.Defense programs don't directly benefit Americans? Where do you think F-22s and MRAPs and MREs and uniforms and warships come from...they're found under cabbage leaves?
I thought liberals were for the working man. Why do you want to put so many people out of work?
what % of U.S. arms are built with foreign steel?
yeah. sure. the unions put the American steel industry on a ship and sent it to Singapore. You really believe this? But, more directly, are you willing to convince me, a resident of the Rust Belt, that such an argument can hold water?
Mercenaries are paid a hell of a lot more than regular military are.Got any idea of what a privately owned military would cost us?
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How much does blackwater employee make?
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I hear that it is done with contracts indiviualy - so that one guy may be paid; lets say $1,000 a month while another guy who did better with his contract, was given a better offer or maybe even used a lawyer to discuss that contract may get between $4,000 and $10,000 a month -
but I would figure that you average "mercenary" and thats what they are - gets paid more than top government officials - while the military is on an antiquated flat pay system. I am sure that restrictions are used - such as - if you are a mercenary and your job is to protect a diplomat or other "important" person, it would stand to reason that they would be getting a better pay rate than there counterparts gaurding say a a building or depot or whatever it may be.
It also makes sense that the ex military soldier who joins blackwater has the intelligents to see that A: they could be paid a poor salary with terrible benifits and stand to lose or have those benefits canceled due to loop holes and poor oversite. or they could B: join a mercenary group like blackwater and make a respectable salary that 7 year college grads make - and on top of that I am just guessing here, they have far better medical benefits than your average military foot soldier - and that is mainly because the tax payer pays for these benefits and salary. So as far as the company of Blackwater is concerned they aren't spending any of there money to provide said benefits.
I would like to say that most of what I wrote is just me making educated guesses and using a basic understanding of business structure.
Either way tax money pays both.
First off eisenhower didn't win the korean war, it has been in a cease fire, technically it is still going on.Our military fails only when there's a pussy acting as CIC and a Congress calling the shots. We fight with kid gloves and one hand tied behind...can't shoot 'til you're shot...the US government fails at everything, including military operations.
You calling our military a failure?
Let the Generals run the wars with the goal of winning and keep the President informed of progress. Then we might come out a winner instead of stalemating and retreating.
You can thank Eisenhower for winning the last one. Thank him for the Interstate system while you're at it.
The private sector would have done better without gov't interference, and lets get one thing straight, it was the housing market collapse due to the democrats; clinton,dodd,franks forcing banks to lend money to people who could not afford them, that caused the economic collapse, but lets keep blaming Bush as the idiot obama keeps doing. By the way, thanks for your service.rEALLY? They fail at everything? Really?
Certainly a governmental body couldn't possibly run anything better than the private sector.
Quote: Originally Posted by Liberty
the US government fails at everything, including military operations.
Liberty said they fail at everything including military operations. I call Bullshit. Actually as a vet, I am offended really but that is my own issue.
Oh and the private sector did so well recently didn't they....lol
You are a certified idiot.Some 40 percent of the soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan work for a private company. Your Military was privatized soon after the drfat was ended. America has never ih her histroty been able to rasie an army of sufficient size without a draft. American men for the most part are fat, lazy, intellectually inferior cowardly, boozers.
The private sector would have done better without gov't interference, and lets get one thing straight, it was the housing market collapse due to the democrats; clinton,dodd,franks forcing banks to lend money to people who could not afford them, that caused the economic collapse, but lets keep blaming Bush as the idiot obama keeps doing. By the way, thanks for your service.Certainly a governmental body couldn't possibly run anything better than the private sector.
Quote: Originally Posted by Liberty
the US government fails at everything, including military operations.
Liberty said they fail at everything including military operations. I call Bullshit. Actually as a vet, I am offended really but that is my own issue.
Oh and the private sector did so well recently didn't they....lol
The private sector would have done better without gov't interference, and lets get one thing straight, it was the housing market collapse due to the democrats; clinton,dodd,franks forcing banks to lend money to people who could not afford them, that caused the economic collapse, but lets keep blaming Bush as the idiot obama keeps doing. By the way, thanks for your service.