Giss and Japan data set says SUPER HOT GLOBALLY FOR OCT!

Yo, Shit-For-Brains, I never said CO2 caused el Nino. I said the el Nino effect was going to increase temperatures. Like this:

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/IPCC 1990 verification.png
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http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/IPCC 1990 verification.png

Guess what preceded that speak Whizzo?

Hey Shit for Brains... How about some reality and TRUTH to go with your deception?

trend

This is what the unaltered data sets say...
 
TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

THERE may only be seven weeks to go until Christmas, but that did not stop Britons flocking to the BEACH as the country saw the hottest start to November since records began.

Florida Heat Wave Set Numerous November Records

November may have a cold reputation in some places, but much of Florida sweat through a heat wave that rewrote November's record books.

The first week of November, the following locations set or tied records for the month:




    • Daytona Beach: 90 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1923)
    • Gainesville: 91 degrees on Nov. 3 (previous record was set in the Dust Bowl of 1936; records date to 1890)
    • Jacksonville: 89 degrees on both Nov. 1 and Nov. 3 (records date to 1871)
    • Key West: Low of 81 degrees Nov. 1 and 2 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1871)
    • Melbourne: Low of 78 degrees Nov. 5 and 6 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1939)
    • Naples: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 ties the previous record from 1946 (records date to 1942)
    • Tallahassee: 88 degrees Nov. 1, then 89 degrees on Nov. 3 and 4; also tied record warmest daily low temperature of 75 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1896)
    • Tampa: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 (records date to 1890); also, their record latest-in-the-year 90s on record Nov. 6
    • Vero Beach: Low of 79 degrees Nov. 4 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1942)
In Tampa, 90-degree heat is typical from mid-June through August. Early November average highs, there, are around 80 degrees. As of Nov. 6, Tampa had reached 90 degrees in three consecutive days, while setting daily record highs four days in a row.

In fact, the hottest temperature anywhere in the U.S. on Nov. 4, often found in the Desert Southwest or South Texas in early November, was at Cross City, Ft. Myers, Naples and Tampa, each soaring to 92 degrees.

November started impressively warm at Tallahassee, where the first four days of the month marked the warmest four-day stretch in November ever recorded in Tallahassee (80.9 degrees), by a whole four degrees.

Heatwave to bring early summer across the country this week

By Saturday, large areas of the Top End and the Kimberley are expected to experience severe heatwave conditions.

Low intensity to severe heatwaves are tipped to continue into the weekend in Queensland and north-east NSW, after beginning to rise earlier in the week.

Darwin will be hit the hardest of all the capital cities, receiving temperatures around 35 degrees Celsius until Sunday.

In Sydney temperatures are forecast to reach 33C on Wednesday, peaking at 38C on Friday.

Friday looks to be hottest day in the run with high 30s likely in all suburbs, Weatherzone has reported.

Heat wave - The Watchers


Hot and humid summer in Egypt: Heat wave claims 87 lives, 1 205 people hospitalized
Another 11 people died on August 13, as the heat wave in Egypt intensified it's grip during the last couple of days. The death toll now rose to 87, Egypt's health ministry reports.The heat wave that was sweeping the countries of Middle East since last July, has

August 14, 2015


Heat wave setting new historic record over Europe, relief expected early next week

Second persistent heat wave of the summer season has set more temperature records in parts of Europe, during last week. Poland, Germany, Italy, Czech Republic, Belarus and Lithuania reported new all-time records, while the hot conditions are forecasted to last across mo

August 13, 2015


Hong Kong reports the hottest day in the last 130 years

The hottest day in the last 130 years was reported in Hong Kong on Saturday, August 8, 2015 when the temperatures rose up to 37.8 ºC (100 ºF) under the influence of Typhoon "Soudelor".The daily maximum temperature hit 36.3 ºC (97.3 ºF) in t

August 11, 2015

My goodness, doesn't reality suck for the denialists.







To quote you....that's WEATHER not CLIMATE. Why do you confuse the two all of the time?
 
TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

THERE may only be seven weeks to go until Christmas, but that did not stop Britons flocking to the BEACH as the country saw the hottest start to November since records began.

Florida Heat Wave Set Numerous November Records

November may have a cold reputation in some places, but much of Florida sweat through a heat wave that rewrote November's record books.

The first week of November, the following locations set or tied records for the month:




    • Daytona Beach: 90 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1923)
    • Gainesville: 91 degrees on Nov. 3 (previous record was set in the Dust Bowl of 1936; records date to 1890)
    • Jacksonville: 89 degrees on both Nov. 1 and Nov. 3 (records date to 1871)
    • Key West: Low of 81 degrees Nov. 1 and 2 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1871)
    • Melbourne: Low of 78 degrees Nov. 5 and 6 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1939)
    • Naples: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 ties the previous record from 1946 (records date to 1942)
    • Tallahassee: 88 degrees Nov. 1, then 89 degrees on Nov. 3 and 4; also tied record warmest daily low temperature of 75 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1896)
    • Tampa: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 (records date to 1890); also, their record latest-in-the-year 90s on record Nov. 6
    • Vero Beach: Low of 79 degrees Nov. 4 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1942)
In Tampa, 90-degree heat is typical from mid-June through August. Early November average highs, there, are around 80 degrees. As of Nov. 6, Tampa had reached 90 degrees in three consecutive days, while setting daily record highs four days in a row.

In fact, the hottest temperature anywhere in the U.S. on Nov. 4, often found in the Desert Southwest or South Texas in early November, was at Cross City, Ft. Myers, Naples and Tampa, each soaring to 92 degrees.

November started impressively warm at Tallahassee, where the first four days of the month marked the warmest four-day stretch in November ever recorded in Tallahassee (80.9 degrees), by a whole four degrees.

Heatwave to bring early summer across the country this week

By Saturday, large areas of the Top End and the Kimberley are expected to experience severe heatwave conditions.

Low intensity to severe heatwaves are tipped to continue into the weekend in Queensland and north-east NSW, after beginning to rise earlier in the week.

Darwin will be hit the hardest of all the capital cities, receiving temperatures around 35 degrees Celsius until Sunday.

In Sydney temperatures are forecast to reach 33C on Wednesday, peaking at 38C on Friday.

Friday looks to be hottest day in the run with high 30s likely in all suburbs, Weatherzone has reported.

Heat wave - The Watchers


Hot and humid summer in Egypt: Heat wave claims 87 lives, 1 205 people hospitalized
Another 11 people died on August 13, as the heat wave in Egypt intensified it's grip during the last couple of days. The death toll now rose to 87, Egypt's health ministry reports.The heat wave that was sweeping the countries of Middle East since last July, has

August 14, 2015


Heat wave setting new historic record over Europe, relief expected early next week

Second persistent heat wave of the summer season has set more temperature records in parts of Europe, during last week. Poland, Germany, Italy, Czech Republic, Belarus and Lithuania reported new all-time records, while the hot conditions are forecasted to last across mo

August 13, 2015


Hong Kong reports the hottest day in the last 130 years

The hottest day in the last 130 years was reported in Hong Kong on Saturday, August 8, 2015 when the temperatures rose up to 37.8 ºC (100 ºF) under the influence of Typhoon "Soudelor".The daily maximum temperature hit 36.3 ºC (97.3 ºF) in t

August 11, 2015

My goodness, doesn't reality suck for the denialists.







To quote you....that's WEATHER not CLIMATE. Why do you confuse the two all of the time?
Why do you continue to lie, foolish old man? The discussion is about a record hot October. That is weather, because of short duration. However, several record hot years close together in time, and getting closer all the time, is climate. 1998, 2005, 2010, 2014, 2015. 7, 5, 4, and back to back. That is seventeen years. And in that seventeen years, we have had 15 of the warmest years on record.

List of Warmest Years on Record Globally
 
TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

THERE may only be seven weeks to go until Christmas, but that did not stop Britons flocking to the BEACH as the country saw the hottest start to November since records began.

Florida Heat Wave Set Numerous November Records

November may have a cold reputation in some places, but much of Florida sweat through a heat wave that rewrote November's record books.

The first week of November, the following locations set or tied records for the month:




    • Daytona Beach: 90 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1923)
    • Gainesville: 91 degrees on Nov. 3 (previous record was set in the Dust Bowl of 1936; records date to 1890)
    • Jacksonville: 89 degrees on both Nov. 1 and Nov. 3 (records date to 1871)
    • Key West: Low of 81 degrees Nov. 1 and 2 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1871)
    • Melbourne: Low of 78 degrees Nov. 5 and 6 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1939)
    • Naples: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 ties the previous record from 1946 (records date to 1942)
    • Tallahassee: 88 degrees Nov. 1, then 89 degrees on Nov. 3 and 4; also tied record warmest daily low temperature of 75 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1896)
    • Tampa: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 (records date to 1890); also, their record latest-in-the-year 90s on record Nov. 6
    • Vero Beach: Low of 79 degrees Nov. 4 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1942)
In Tampa, 90-degree heat is typical from mid-June through August. Early November average highs, there, are around 80 degrees. As of Nov. 6, Tampa had reached 90 degrees in three consecutive days, while setting daily record highs four days in a row.

In fact, the hottest temperature anywhere in the U.S. on Nov. 4, often found in the Desert Southwest or South Texas in early November, was at Cross City, Ft. Myers, Naples and Tampa, each soaring to 92 degrees.

November started impressively warm at Tallahassee, where the first four days of the month marked the warmest four-day stretch in November ever recorded in Tallahassee (80.9 degrees), by a whole four degrees.

Heatwave to bring early summer across the country this week

By Saturday, large areas of the Top End and the Kimberley are expected to experience severe heatwave conditions.

Low intensity to severe heatwaves are tipped to continue into the weekend in Queensland and north-east NSW, after beginning to rise earlier in the week.

Darwin will be hit the hardest of all the capital cities, receiving temperatures around 35 degrees Celsius until Sunday.

In Sydney temperatures are forecast to reach 33C on Wednesday, peaking at 38C on Friday.

Friday looks to be hottest day in the run with high 30s likely in all suburbs, Weatherzone has reported.

Heat wave - The Watchers


Hot and humid summer in Egypt: Heat wave claims 87 lives, 1 205 people hospitalized
Another 11 people died on August 13, as the heat wave in Egypt intensified it's grip during the last couple of days. The death toll now rose to 87, Egypt's health ministry reports.The heat wave that was sweeping the countries of Middle East since last July, has

August 14, 2015


Heat wave setting new historic record over Europe, relief expected early next week

Second persistent heat wave of the summer season has set more temperature records in parts of Europe, during last week. Poland, Germany, Italy, Czech Republic, Belarus and Lithuania reported new all-time records, while the hot conditions are forecasted to last across mo

August 13, 2015


Hong Kong reports the hottest day in the last 130 years

The hottest day in the last 130 years was reported in Hong Kong on Saturday, August 8, 2015 when the temperatures rose up to 37.8 ºC (100 ºF) under the influence of Typhoon "Soudelor".The daily maximum temperature hit 36.3 ºC (97.3 ºF) in t

August 11, 2015

My goodness, doesn't reality suck for the denialists.







To quote you....that's WEATHER not CLIMATE. Why do you confuse the two all of the time?
Why do you continue to lie, foolish old man? The discussion is about a record hot October. That is weather, because of short duration. However, several record hot years close together in time, and getting closer all the time, is climate. 1998, 2005, 2010, 2014, 2015. 7, 5, 4, and back to back. That is seventeen years. And in that seventeen years, we have had 15 of the warmest years on record.

List of Warmest Years on Record Globally







No, they're not. THIRTY years is considered a trend...remember? So far the trend is absolutely flat no matter how much the records are falsified. The facts is there has been no warming for 18 years. Still just weather, but far more factual than the crap you're peddling.
 
Here we go again. No warming for 18 years, but warmest 15 years all occur within that period. Not real smart. That is some real cooling.
 
Help me...I'm melting.
Really? I was sure that your brain melted a long time ago......whatever...

If it hadn't though, it would be having a meltdown now that your denier cult myths and crackpot fantasies, based on the lies and propaganda you were fed by the fossil fuel industry, are also melting like a snowball on a hot July day.

Last year was the hottest year on record...and now this year is going to be even hotter...much hotter apparently...and climate scientists are saying that next year could be as hot or hotter than this year...

So far this year, every month except two has been a record setting, 'hottest month of that name on record' since at least 1880....and of those two, January was the second hottest January on record and April was the third hottest April on record. This July was THE hottest month on record, hotter than every other month since at least 1880, and almost certainly much, much longer, according to the temperatre proxies. The first ten months of 2015 was the warmest such period on record across the world's land and ocean surfaces, according to the scientists at NOAA.

Your denier cult propaganda fantasies about "cooling or the "pause" are officially down the tubes, with all the other crap and lies you've spewed...

Wow.

You got all that out of my post.

You are incredible.

:bsflag::banana2::banana2::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag:
Well, if you have something relevant to say, state it. Otherwise, be content with people just regarding you as a stupid troll.
I kind of gave up trying to educate deniers for a time for several reasons :
1) Oil got incredibly cheap, so it's almost impossible to get to a break even price with solar
2) There is simply not enough data yet to declare an inminent danger ( there are some small hints that warming is becoming exponential and not linear , but it can't be confirmed yet).

If warming is linear we still have plenty of time ( 40 years) before facing a global catastrophe. Meanwhile solar and batteries continue to mature. I hope to see solar kick in once Saudis have ended their oil dumping fiasco.
 
TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

TWO WEEK HEATWAVE: Britain to bask in 22C for hottest start to November EVER

THERE may only be seven weeks to go until Christmas, but that did not stop Britons flocking to the BEACH as the country saw the hottest start to November since records began.

Florida Heat Wave Set Numerous November Records

November may have a cold reputation in some places, but much of Florida sweat through a heat wave that rewrote November's record books.

The first week of November, the following locations set or tied records for the month:




    • Daytona Beach: 90 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1923)
    • Gainesville: 91 degrees on Nov. 3 (previous record was set in the Dust Bowl of 1936; records date to 1890)
    • Jacksonville: 89 degrees on both Nov. 1 and Nov. 3 (records date to 1871)
    • Key West: Low of 81 degrees Nov. 1 and 2 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1871)
    • Melbourne: Low of 78 degrees Nov. 5 and 6 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1939)
    • Naples: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 ties the previous record from 1946 (records date to 1942)
    • Tallahassee: 88 degrees Nov. 1, then 89 degrees on Nov. 3 and 4; also tied record warmest daily low temperature of 75 degrees on Nov. 2 (records date to 1896)
    • Tampa: 92 degrees on Nov. 4 (records date to 1890); also, their record latest-in-the-year 90s on record Nov. 6
    • Vero Beach: Low of 79 degrees Nov. 4 was warmest daily low on record in November (records date to 1942)
In Tampa, 90-degree heat is typical from mid-June through August. Early November average highs, there, are around 80 degrees. As of Nov. 6, Tampa had reached 90 degrees in three consecutive days, while setting daily record highs four days in a row.

In fact, the hottest temperature anywhere in the U.S. on Nov. 4, often found in the Desert Southwest or South Texas in early November, was at Cross City, Ft. Myers, Naples and Tampa, each soaring to 92 degrees.

November started impressively warm at Tallahassee, where the first four days of the month marked the warmest four-day stretch in November ever recorded in Tallahassee (80.9 degrees), by a whole four degrees.

Heatwave to bring early summer across the country this week

By Saturday, large areas of the Top End and the Kimberley are expected to experience severe heatwave conditions.

Low intensity to severe heatwaves are tipped to continue into the weekend in Queensland and north-east NSW, after beginning to rise earlier in the week.

Darwin will be hit the hardest of all the capital cities, receiving temperatures around 35 degrees Celsius until Sunday.

In Sydney temperatures are forecast to reach 33C on Wednesday, peaking at 38C on Friday.

Friday looks to be hottest day in the run with high 30s likely in all suburbs, Weatherzone has reported.

Heat wave - The Watchers


Hot and humid summer in Egypt: Heat wave claims 87 lives, 1 205 people hospitalized
Another 11 people died on August 13, as the heat wave in Egypt intensified it's grip during the last couple of days. The death toll now rose to 87, Egypt's health ministry reports.The heat wave that was sweeping the countries of Middle East since last July, has

August 14, 2015


Heat wave setting new historic record over Europe, relief expected early next week

Second persistent heat wave of the summer season has set more temperature records in parts of Europe, during last week. Poland, Germany, Italy, Czech Republic, Belarus and Lithuania reported new all-time records, while the hot conditions are forecasted to last across mo

August 13, 2015


Hong Kong reports the hottest day in the last 130 years

The hottest day in the last 130 years was reported in Hong Kong on Saturday, August 8, 2015 when the temperatures rose up to 37.8 ºC (100 ºF) under the influence of Typhoon "Soudelor".The daily maximum temperature hit 36.3 ºC (97.3 ºF) in t

August 11, 2015

My goodness, doesn't reality suck for the denialists.







To quote you....that's WEATHER not CLIMATE. Why do you confuse the two all of the time?
Why do you continue to lie, foolish old man? The discussion is about a record hot October. That is weather, because of short duration. However, several record hot years close together in time, and getting closer all the time, is climate. 1998, 2005, 2010, 2014, 2015. 7, 5, 4, and back to back. That is seventeen years. And in that seventeen years, we have had 15 of the warmest years on record.

List of Warmest Years on Record Globally
dude, how can you make this statement after you made this one?

Flash;

Water in the atmosphere absorbs and washes out most of the CO2 before it can react in a greenhouse manner and that is why the data fails in real life. That is why we have haven't measured any real significant climate change in the last 15 years and we may be even heading for a mini ice age in a couple of decades even though the CO2 level is increasing.

I missed that bit of nonsense. OK, bullshit artist, we know you know nothing of science now. You are just another lying silly bastard like Silly Billy. And rain does not 'wash' CO2 out of the air, or else we would not be measuring 400 ppm worldwide.

Don't you think hottest eva is significant?
 
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

1.04c above avg for Oct! Hottest anomaly on record. Yes, that is the first 1.0c anomaly!

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According to the JMA, October 2015 (+0.53C) is a new record, beating the record set last year by whopping +0.19C. This makes is just the second month on record, and second month in row, with an anomaly of at least +0.5C above the 81-10 average. This is now also the largest anomaly for any month on record.

oct_wld.png


Top 5

1st. 2015 (+0.53°C),
2nd. 2014 (+0.34°C),
3rd. 2003 (+0.24°C),
4th. 2006 (+0.23°C),
5th. 2012 (+0.22°C)

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Global Average Surface Temperature Anomalies

wow so lets impoverish and kill a billion people by switching to solar and wind because the temperature has gone up 1/100th of a degree per year for the last 100 years!!
 
Help me...I'm melting.
Really? I was sure that your brain melted a long time ago......whatever...

If it hadn't though, it would be having a meltdown now that your denier cult myths and crackpot fantasies, based on the lies and propaganda you were fed by the fossil fuel industry, are also melting like a snowball on a hot July day.

Last year was the hottest year on record...and now this year is going to be even hotter...much hotter apparently...and climate scientists are saying that next year could be as hot or hotter than this year...

So far this year, every month except two has been a record setting, 'hottest month of that name on record' since at least 1880....and of those two, January was the second hottest January on record and April was the third hottest April on record. This July was THE hottest month on record, hotter than every other month since at least 1880, and almost certainly much, much longer, according to the temperatre proxies. The first ten months of 2015 was the warmest such period on record across the world's land and ocean surfaces, according to the scientists at NOAA.

Your denier cult propaganda fantasies about "cooling or the "pause" are officially down the tubes, with all the other crap and lies you've spewed...

Wow.

You got all that out of my post.

You are incredible.

:bsflag::banana2::banana2::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag:
Well, if you have something relevant to say, state it. Otherwise, be content with people just regarding you as a stupid troll.
I kind of gave up trying to educate deniers for a time for several reasons :
1) Oil got incredibly cheap, so it's almost impossible to get to a break even price with solar
2) There is simply not enough data yet to declare an inminent danger ( there are some small hints that warming is becoming exponential and not linear , but it can't be confirmed yet).

If warming is linear we still have plenty of time ( 40 years) before facing a global catastrophe. Meanwhile solar and batteries continue to mature. I hope to see solar kick in once Saudis have ended their oil dumping fiasco.







What makes you think that a one degree rise will lead to a catastrophe? I'm curious. Every scrap of historical fact says that when it has been warmer it has been better. By far. What makes you think there is an impending disaster? I'm curious.
 
What makes you dismiss the possibility that by changing the amount of GHGs in the atmosphere, we may make life more difficult for the 7 billion people on this planet?
 
What makes you dismiss the possibility that by changing the amount of GHGs in the atmosphere, we may make life more difficult for the 7 billion people on this planet?






Probably because throughout recorded history it hasn't mattered one bit. Ignore the GHG part of the equation, I simply look at the historical and paleontological record which is unequivocal, warmer is better, by far.
 
Help me...I'm melting.
Really? I was sure that your brain melted a long time ago......whatever...

If it hadn't though, it would be having a meltdown now that your denier cult myths and crackpot fantasies, based on the lies and propaganda you were fed by the fossil fuel industry, are also melting like a snowball on a hot July day.

Last year was the hottest year on record...and now this year is going to be even hotter...much hotter apparently...and climate scientists are saying that next year could be as hot or hotter than this year...

So far this year, every month except two has been a record setting, 'hottest month of that name on record' since at least 1880....and of those two, January was the second hottest January on record and April was the third hottest April on record. This July was THE hottest month on record, hotter than every other month since at least 1880, and almost certainly much, much longer, according to the temperatre proxies. The first ten months of 2015 was the warmest such period on record across the world's land and ocean surfaces, according to the scientists at NOAA.

Your denier cult propaganda fantasies about "cooling or the "pause" are officially down the tubes, with all the other crap and lies you've spewed...

Wow.

You got all that out of my post.

You are incredible.

:bsflag::banana2::banana2::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag:
Well, if you have something relevant to say, state it. Otherwise, be content with people just regarding you as a stupid troll.
I kind of gave up trying to educate deniers for a time for several reasons :
1) Oil got incredibly cheap, so it's almost impossible to get to a break even price with solar
2) There is simply not enough data yet to declare an inminent danger ( there are some small hints that warming is becoming exponential and not linear , but it can't be confirmed yet).

If warming is linear we still have plenty of time ( 40 years) before facing a global catastrophe. Meanwhile solar and batteries continue to mature. I hope to see solar kick in once Saudis have ended their oil dumping fiasco.







What makes you think that a one degree rise will lead to a catastrophe? I'm curious. Every scrap of historical fact says that when it has been warmer it has been better. By far. What makes you think there is an impending disaster? I'm curious.

One degree (celsius ) is what we've gotten in the past 35 years.
Another degree might not do too much harm .
On the other hand , if the growth is exponential and we get two degrees instead of one in the next 35 years, humanity will be facing some serious consequences: the drought in California might become permanent.

Then again, clean energy has to be economically feasible, even at current prices it's a great option for Hawaii, but not so for the rest of the US.
I constantly review the technology . 2016 seems to be the first year in which a combination of solar cells, electric vehicles, batteries and water heaters can get you to break-even prices in 10 years of usage in southern states. Barely good enough to make the switch to solar in a household. Personally I will wait another 5 years before switching .
I can't switch right now anyway: I don't get enough sun in my current apartment I need 200 sq ft of roof to cover all my needs . I am planning to move to a house once I finish paying the mortgage.
 
From ABC News

Even in a record-breaking hot year for Earth, October stood out as absurdly warm.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said that last month globally was 58.86 degrees (14.98 degrees Celsius). That's the hottest October on record by a third of a degree over the old mark, "an incredible amount" for weather records, said NOAA climate scientist Jessica Blunden.

October's temperature was the most above-normal month in history. It was 1.76 degrees Fahrenheit (0.98 degrees Celsius) above the 20th-century average.

"A complete blowout," said Jeffrey Sachs, director of Columbia University's Earth Institute. "This year is going to be an all-time record-breaker."

This was the eighth month this year when a heat record was set, with only January and April not setting records. That's a record number of broken records in any year. Records go back to 1880.

Blunden and other scientists blame a potent and strengthening El Nino on top of accelerating man-made global warming.

"This is just a new normal," Blunden said. "I don't know what really else to call it."

Nearly every team that measures temperatures found that October 2015 was a record, including NASA, the Japanese Meteorological Agency, University of California at Berkeley and University of Alabama at Huntsville, which measures the upper air using satellites, Blunden said.

Record heat was found in Australia, southern Asia, parts of western North America, much of central and southern Africa, most of Central America and northern South America, according to NOAA. Washington state had its hottest October on record, while California, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming had their second-hottest Octobers.

It's also the hottest January through October for Earth on record, along with the hottest consecutive 12 months on record.

Given that the El Nino continues to strengthen and how much warmer 2015 is than previous years, Blunden said "it is virtually just impossible that we will not break the record" for the hottest year. That record was set in 2014. Since the year 2000, global monthly heat records have been broken 32 times, yet the last time a monthly cold record was set was in 1916.

Absurdly Hot October as Earth Sets 8th Heat Record This Year
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But, of course, all these data - NOAA, Columbia University Earth Institute, are falsified by the Grand Global Climate Conspiracy, the Japanese Meteorological Agency, University of California at Berkeley (the BEST group) and University of Alabama at Huntsville (that )be your men, Spencer & Christy - all members in good standing of the BIG LIE, right?.

I can see that the climate sciences (almost all sciences, really) are filled with the silent, tight-lipped, take-it-to-their-graves, criminal types. But what about young men and women who go into the climate sciences because they want to do something for humanity. How is it that none of them have ever seen the lies,the data manipulation, the illegal and immoral conspiracy and turned back shouting the alarm?

WHERE IS THE FUCKING CONFESSION?
 
Really? I was sure that your brain melted a long time ago......whatever...

If it hadn't though, it would be having a meltdown now that your denier cult myths and crackpot fantasies, based on the lies and propaganda you were fed by the fossil fuel industry, are also melting like a snowball on a hot July day.

Last year was the hottest year on record...and now this year is going to be even hotter...much hotter apparently...and climate scientists are saying that next year could be as hot or hotter than this year...

So far this year, every month except two has been a record setting, 'hottest month of that name on record' since at least 1880....and of those two, January was the second hottest January on record and April was the third hottest April on record. This July was THE hottest month on record, hotter than every other month since at least 1880, and almost certainly much, much longer, according to the temperatre proxies. The first ten months of 2015 was the warmest such period on record across the world's land and ocean surfaces, according to the scientists at NOAA.

Your denier cult propaganda fantasies about "cooling or the "pause" are officially down the tubes, with all the other crap and lies you've spewed...

Wow.

You got all that out of my post.

You are incredible.

:bsflag::banana2::banana2::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag:
Well, if you have something relevant to say, state it. Otherwise, be content with people just regarding you as a stupid troll.
I kind of gave up trying to educate deniers for a time for several reasons :
1) Oil got incredibly cheap, so it's almost impossible to get to a break even price with solar
2) There is simply not enough data yet to declare an inminent danger ( there are some small hints that warming is becoming exponential and not linear , but it can't be confirmed yet).

If warming is linear we still have plenty of time ( 40 years) before facing a global catastrophe. Meanwhile solar and batteries continue to mature. I hope to see solar kick in once Saudis have ended their oil dumping fiasco.







What makes you think that a one degree rise will lead to a catastrophe? I'm curious. Every scrap of historical fact says that when it has been warmer it has been better. By far. What makes you think there is an impending disaster? I'm curious.

One degree (celsius ) is what we've gotten in the past 35 years.
Another degree might not do too much harm .
On the other hand , if the growth is exponential and we get two degrees instead of one in the next 35 years, humanity will be facing some serious consequences: the drought in California might become permanent.

Then again, clean energy has to be economically feasible, even at current prices it's a great option for Hawaii, but not so for the rest of the US.
I constantly review the technology . 2016 seems to be the first year in which a combination of solar cells, electric vehicles, batteries and water heaters can get you to break-even prices in 10 years of usage in southern states. Barely good enough to make the switch to solar in a household. Personally I will wait another 5 years before switching .
I can't switch right now anyway: I don't get enough sun in my current apartment I need 200 sq ft of roof to cover all my needs . I am planning to move to a house once I finish paying the mortgage.

it's amazing how uneducated some of you warmers are. I would appreciate if you wish to complain about an area of the world, at least do some research on the area and what the make of the area is. For instance you choose to comment on southern California. Did you know that southern California has always been a desert? ALWAYS. So explain to me how any increase in a temperature changes it into a desert? I'm curious, you are making a statement that avoids all logic. Not that it is unexpected, it happens frequently in this forum.

Then you talking about a failed alternative business is even more funny. solar and wind is dying off. Go ask countries in Europe. Again, please do some research.

here some material I researched for you from the Canada Free Press: Click the link to the report and read it. you'll be surprised.

"IER decided to see how they were working.

The first case study focuses on Germany’s energy policies and finds that these policies are driving up energy prices and forcing hundreds of thousands of people into energy poverty. Specifically, the study found:"

To read IER’s recent analysis titled, “Europe Slashing Renewable Subsidies”, click here.
 
Really? I was sure that your brain melted a long time ago......whatever...

If it hadn't though, it would be having a meltdown now that your denier cult myths and crackpot fantasies, based on the lies and propaganda you were fed by the fossil fuel industry, are also melting like a snowball on a hot July day.

Last year was the hottest year on record...and now this year is going to be even hotter...much hotter apparently...and climate scientists are saying that next year could be as hot or hotter than this year...

So far this year, every month except two has been a record setting, 'hottest month of that name on record' since at least 1880....and of those two, January was the second hottest January on record and April was the third hottest April on record. This July was THE hottest month on record, hotter than every other month since at least 1880, and almost certainly much, much longer, according to the temperatre proxies. The first ten months of 2015 was the warmest such period on record across the world's land and ocean surfaces, according to the scientists at NOAA.

Your denier cult propaganda fantasies about "cooling or the "pause" are officially down the tubes, with all the other crap and lies you've spewed...

Wow.

You got all that out of my post.

You are incredible.

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Well, if you have something relevant to say, state it. Otherwise, be content with people just regarding you as a stupid troll.
I kind of gave up trying to educate deniers for a time for several reasons :
1) Oil got incredibly cheap, so it's almost impossible to get to a break even price with solar
2) There is simply not enough data yet to declare an inminent danger ( there are some small hints that warming is becoming exponential and not linear , but it can't be confirmed yet).

If warming is linear we still have plenty of time ( 40 years) before facing a global catastrophe. Meanwhile solar and batteries continue to mature. I hope to see solar kick in once Saudis have ended their oil dumping fiasco.







What makes you think that a one degree rise will lead to a catastrophe? I'm curious. Every scrap of historical fact says that when it has been warmer it has been better. By far. What makes you think there is an impending disaster? I'm curious.

One degree (celsius ) is what we've gotten in the past 35 years.
Another degree might not do too much harm .
On the other hand , if the growth is exponential and we get two degrees instead of one in the next 35 years, humanity will be facing some serious consequences: the drought in California might become permanent.

Then again, clean energy has to be economically feasible, even at current prices it's a great option for Hawaii, but not so for the rest of the US.
I constantly review the technology . 2016 seems to be the first year in which a combination of solar cells, electric vehicles, batteries and water heaters can get you to break-even prices in 10 years of usage in southern states. Barely good enough to make the switch to solar in a household. Personally I will wait another 5 years before switching .
I can't switch right now anyway: I don't get enough sun in my current apartment I need 200 sq ft of roof to cover all my needs . I am planning to move to a house once I finish paying the mortgage.
So curious, what evidence do you have that an increase in temperature is Armageddon? Do you have some empirical evidence that shows there is a problem? Please please share with the class.
 
From ABC News

Even in a record-breaking hot year for Earth, October stood out as absurdly warm.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said that last month globally was 58.86 degrees (14.98 degrees Celsius). That's the hottest October on record by a third of a degree over the old mark, "an incredible amount" for weather records, said NOAA climate scientist Jessica Blunden.

October's temperature was the most above-normal month in history. It was 1.76 degrees Fahrenheit (0.98 degrees Celsius) above the 20th-century average.

"A complete blowout," said Jeffrey Sachs, director of Columbia University's Earth Institute. "This year is going to be an all-time record-breaker."

This was the eighth month this year when a heat record was set, with only January and April not setting records. That's a record number of broken records in any year. Records go back to 1880.

Blunden and other scientists blame a potent and strengthening El Nino on top of accelerating man-made global warming.

"This is just a new normal," Blunden said. "I don't know what really else to call it."

Nearly every team that measures temperatures found that October 2015 was a record, including NASA, the Japanese Meteorological Agency, University of California at Berkeley and University of Alabama at Huntsville, which measures the upper air using satellites, Blunden said.

Record heat was found in Australia, southern Asia, parts of western North America, much of central and southern Africa, most of Central America and northern South America, according to NOAA. Washington state had its hottest October on record, while California, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming had their second-hottest Octobers.

It's also the hottest January through October for Earth on record, along with the hottest consecutive 12 months on record.

Given that the El Nino continues to strengthen and how much warmer 2015 is than previous years, Blunden said "it is virtually just impossible that we will not break the record" for the hottest year. That record was set in 2014. Since the year 2000, global monthly heat records have been broken 32 times, yet the last time a monthly cold record was set was in 1916.

Absurdly Hot October as Earth Sets 8th Heat Record This Year
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But, of course, all these data - NOAA, Columbia University Earth Institute, are falsified by the Grand Global Climate Conspiracy, the Japanese Meteorological Agency, University of California at Berkeley (the BEST group) and University of Alabama at Huntsville (that )be your men, Spencer & Christy - all members in good standing of the BIG LIE, right?.

I can see that the climate sciences (almost all sciences, really) are filled with the silent, tight-lipped, take-it-to-their-graves, criminal types. But what about young men and women who go into the climate sciences because they want to do something for humanity. How is it that none of them have ever seen the lies,the data manipulation, the illegal and immoral conspiracy and turned back shouting the alarm?

WHERE IS THE FUCKING CONFESSION?

Wow, just in time for Obama's Paris Climate Surrender

What are the odds?

Paris Climate, Hottest EVAH!!!

Wow!
 
Congress needs to send in US Marshall to seize the NOAA communication and publish the whole thing on the Internet
 
Really? I was sure that your brain melted a long time ago......whatever...

If it hadn't though, it would be having a meltdown now that your denier cult myths and crackpot fantasies, based on the lies and propaganda you were fed by the fossil fuel industry, are also melting like a snowball on a hot July day.

Last year was the hottest year on record...and now this year is going to be even hotter...much hotter apparently...and climate scientists are saying that next year could be as hot or hotter than this year...

So far this year, every month except two has been a record setting, 'hottest month of that name on record' since at least 1880....and of those two, January was the second hottest January on record and April was the third hottest April on record. This July was THE hottest month on record, hotter than every other month since at least 1880, and almost certainly much, much longer, according to the temperatre proxies. The first ten months of 2015 was the warmest such period on record across the world's land and ocean surfaces, according to the scientists at NOAA.

Your denier cult propaganda fantasies about "cooling or the "pause" are officially down the tubes, with all the other crap and lies you've spewed...

Wow.

You got all that out of my post.

You are incredible.

:bsflag::banana2::banana2::bsflag::bsflag::bsflag:
Well, if you have something relevant to say, state it. Otherwise, be content with people just regarding you as a stupid troll.
I kind of gave up trying to educate deniers for a time for several reasons :
1) Oil got incredibly cheap, so it's almost impossible to get to a break even price with solar
2) There is simply not enough data yet to declare an inminent danger ( there are some small hints that warming is becoming exponential and not linear , but it can't be confirmed yet).

If warming is linear we still have plenty of time ( 40 years) before facing a global catastrophe. Meanwhile solar and batteries continue to mature. I hope to see solar kick in once Saudis have ended their oil dumping fiasco.







What makes you think that a one degree rise will lead to a catastrophe? I'm curious. Every scrap of historical fact says that when it has been warmer it has been better. By far. What makes you think there is an impending disaster? I'm curious.

One degree (celsius ) is what we've gotten in the past 35 years.
Another degree might not do too much harm .
On the other hand , if the growth is exponential and we get two degrees instead of one in the next 35 years, humanity will be facing some serious consequences: the drought in California might become permanent.

Then again, clean energy has to be economically feasible, even at current prices it's a great option for Hawaii, but not so for the rest of the US.
I constantly review the technology . 2016 seems to be the first year in which a combination of solar cells, electric vehicles, batteries and water heaters can get you to break-even prices in 10 years of usage in southern states. Barely good enough to make the switch to solar in a household. Personally I will wait another 5 years before switching .
I can't switch right now anyway: I don't get enough sun in my current apartment I need 200 sq ft of roof to cover all my needs . I am planning to move to a house once I finish paying the mortgage.








Not quite. It's around .7C. So what? The MWP in my region was 2.3 to 2.7 C warmer than the present day, and it was a garden of Eden.

Over the last 1200 years California has endured at least three droughts that lasted for over 200 years. The MAJORITY of time in California over the last 1200 years has been drought stricken. It is NORMAL.

What about the pollution created by the manufacturing process of solar modules? It is significant and I believe far more dangerous than any GW related "pollution".

I think you are too early for your break even levels but I do hope that the technology does indeed get the cost down. I have had solar on my house for over 25 years and they have always been merely for emergency use when the grid failed. They were never able to meet even half the need.
 

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