Get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!

How do you think the Russians "influenced" our election? What exactly do you think they did?

That is NOT the point, and most people know it. Only hacks and fools argue the Russian's "influenced" our election [Unless the investigation uncovers facts that they did covertly "stuff" the ballot box]. We don't know yet how far the investigation goes or who is culpable.


before any investigation begins there must be a suspicion of some wrong doing. I am merely asking what you THINK the Russians did and how that had an affect on the outcome of our election. Unless there is some suspicion, the investigation is truly a waste of money and a witchhunt. Clinton was investigated because there was proof they he defiled the oval office with a young intern and then lied under oath about it.

So, what exactly is this investigation about? What do the "investigators" think happened?

is it the wikileaks leak of the data on the DNC servers that proved corruption? What are they looking for?
OMG

Please take your head out of the ground and start reading the news papers on this....there has been some Pulitzer prize winning investigative articles from the Washington post, wall street journal, New York Times, and even Politico.

Russians hacked the DNC emails, wrote fake news stories about the emails, then used their 40, 000 bots they created and trolls to spread the lies on social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter and then to right wing media who then spread the fake news further...

The Russians bought ad space on Facebook for fake news stories they wrote on Hillary and pro Bernie to cause division within the party.

The Russians pretended to be Americans and formed groups, gathering Americans to support their made up cause and then organized real live rallies in contentious "purple" states

They, the Russians organized the California EXIT, secession movement from the USA....

They allegedly stole voter rolls in many different states and directed ads and propaganda at these voters through social media.

They dumped the stolen emails with the fake stories at the precise time to hurt Hillary the most and help Trump the most, like the Podesta emails dropped on the same day the access Hollywood video was revealed....

There is tons and tons more....

Start reading!!!


those are all allegations, there is no proof of any of it. You are a victim of the biased media---------they are lying to you, wake up.

wikileaks is not Russia.

Why exactly would Russia prefer Trump over Hillary when they had tons of information that could be used to blackmail Hillary into doing exactly what they wanted. They owned her. Why would they prefer a guy that they could not control over a weak corrupt person that they could use like a puppet?
Unlike Trump, she can't be blackmailed and Putin knows that.... :rolleyes:

And bravo! :clap:

You just made up crap that Putin had stuff to blackmail Clinton and pulled it out of thin air while accusing me of doing it! :rofl:


Hillary cant be blackmailed?????????????? Are you a complete fool? IF the Russians hacked the DNC and Hillary campaign servers, as YOU claim, then they have tons of data they could use to blackmail her.

YOU made the claims about Russia changing the outcome of our election, then in the next post you say they had nothing that they could use to do that. In short, you are a fool.
 
How do you think the Russians "influenced" our election? What exactly do you think they did?

That is NOT the point, and most people know it. Only hacks and fools argue the Russian's "influenced" our election [Unless the investigation uncovers facts that they did covertly "stuff" the ballot box]. We don't know yet how far the investigation goes or who is culpable.


before any investigation begins there must be a suspicion of some wrong doing. I am merely asking what you THINK the Russians did and how that had an affect on the outcome of our election. Unless there is some suspicion, the investigation is truly a waste of money and a witchhunt. Clinton was investigated because there was proof they he defiled the oval office with a young intern and then lied under oath about it.

So, what exactly is this investigation about? What do the "investigators" think happened?

is it the wikileaks leak of the data on the DNC servers that proved corruption? What are they looking for?
OMG

Please take your head out of the ground and start reading the news papers on this....there has been some Pulitzer prize winning investigative articles from the Washington post, wall street journal, New York Times, and even Politico.

Russians hacked the DNC emails, wrote fake news stories about the emails, then used their 40, 000 bots they created and trolls to spread the lies on social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter and then to right wing media who then spread the fake news further...

The Russians bought ad space on Facebook for fake news stories they wrote on Hillary and pro Bernie to cause division within the party.

The Russians pretended to be Americans and formed groups, gathering Americans to support their made up cause and then organized real live rallies in contentious "purple" states

They, the Russians organized the California EXIT, secession movement from the USA....

They allegedly stole voter rolls in many different states and directed ads and propaganda at these voters through social media.

They dumped the stolen emails with the fake stories at the precise time to hurt Hillary the most and help Trump the most, like the Podesta emails dropped on the same day the access Hollywood video was revealed....

There is tons and tons more....

Start reading!!!


those are all allegations, there is no proof of any of it. You are a victim of the biased media---------they are lying to you, wake up.

wikileaks is not Russia.

Why exactly would Russia prefer Trump over Hillary when they had tons of information that could be used to blackmail Hillary into doing exactly what they wanted. They owned her. Why would they prefer a guy that they could not control over a weak corrupt person that they could use like a puppet?
Watch the video

Facebook's cooperation on Russian ads doesn't stop Democrats' demands


This is in the news, where have you been?


are you serious? a propaganda video from politico? Do you have any living brain cells?
 
On this topic. Would one, or more, of you on the left please tell us exactly what the Russians did that impacted our election? Give us the details. Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

If your claim is that leaking the proof of corruption within and between the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media changed the outcome, fine. Now tell us why the voters were not entitled to know those facts. Next prove that wikileaks got the info from the Russians.

post those proofs, then we can talk. Until then------------------------------------------

No one knows what Russia did or might have done to have impacted the election, so most patriotic Americans - which excludes you and the other Trumpanzees - want to know if the Trump Administration colluded with a foreign power in an effort to effect the outcome of our last general election.

Thus, what needs to be thoroughly investigated and determined is if Treason was afoot or that justice was obstructed; what was done, when, where and by and for whom. Then and only then can an indictment and/or impeachment occur.

That is the American way, no one but a neo fascists or a biddable fool would chant "lock her/them up" without probative evidence; such evidence which is necessary and sufficient to take someone before a trier of fact.


Great, I agree completely, and I am sure you agree that we are entitled to know what kind of deal Bubba and Lynch made on that secret runway meeting, what Lynch directed Comey to do, and whether Comey lied under oath. I am sure you also want to know exactly why the Russians donated to the Clinton foundation after she "sold" them 20% of our uranium stockpile. You probably also want an investigation into the collusion between Brazille and CNN to give Hillary the debate questions in advance. How about how the DNC rigged the primaries to keep Bernie from winning?

Should we also investigate how Maxine Waters became a multi millionaire on a congressmen's salary?

We are entitled to know all of that, right?
 
He hasn't said a word, nor has he tweeted one. Trump ought to follow his lead and stop giving campaign speeches and childish tweets. Trump is an embarrassment to our citizens and unfit to be POTUS.

Trump is a salesman. And his last product was himself. He could sell refrigerators to Eskimos, and coal to new castle, but there's a difference between selling and leading.


your butthurt never ends, does it? Trump beat Hillary, he is leading this nation back to prosperity, respect, strength, and patriotism. Obama, the Clintons, the dem party, and liberalism have been rejected by real America.

I fully support Calexit. Move there, let mexico annex you. then we will watch as LA becomes Kabul.
 
Trump supporters: I know you're not happy with Robert Mueller poking around in Donald Trump's affairs, and those of his family and associates. I also know you think this is a witch hunt, and a Liberal conspiracy to smear the Trump White House, but there are 2 things you'd better start warming up to:

1. Robert Mueller was appointed by Rob Rosenstein a lifelong Republican appointed to his position by President George W Bush. Mr. Rosenstein found probable cause that Russia did indeed meddle in our election in 2016, and judged that a special counsel was warranted, so please....stop crying Liberal which hunt, it doesn't make any sense.

2. You folks didn't have any problems with special counsels when one was appointed to poke around in Bill Clinton's dealings with Whitewater real estate, and this investigation led them to the Monica Lewinski scandal that got Bill Clinton impeached.

Special counsels are a fact of life for Presidents, and if your golden boy is as squeaky clean as he claims, then there is nothing to worry about. So, put your big boy pants on and get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!
:bye1:

Rod Rosenstein’s Political Affiliation: Is He a Republican or a Democrat?
You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin was running their show and maybe before. Not only that but so do a lot of other countries including our allies like the British, the French, Israel, Italians and every other country with two nickles to rub together. Not only that but we do it to them and every other country on earth and have for a long long time. WTF do you think the CIA does for a living anyway? I've seen it for myself in several countries. DUH!
Get a clue this game is over and the worm is turning. And yes Robert Muller is now out of a job and Barr is in charge.
 
Trump supporters: I know you're not happy with Robert Mueller poking around in Donald Trump's affairs, and those of his family and associates. I also know you think this is a witch hunt, and a Liberal conspiracy to smear the Trump White House, but there are 2 things you'd better start warming up to:

1. Robert Mueller was appointed by Rob Rosenstein a lifelong Republican appointed to his position by President George W Bush. Mr. Rosenstein found probable cause that Russia did indeed meddle in our election in 2016, and judged that a special counsel was warranted, so please....stop crying Liberal which hunt, it doesn't make any sense.

2. You folks didn't have any problems with special counsels when one was appointed to poke around in Bill Clinton's dealings with Whitewater real estate, and this investigation led them to the Monica Lewinski scandal that got Bill Clinton impeached.

Special counsels are a fact of life for Presidents, and if your golden boy is as squeaky clean as he claims, then there is nothing to worry about. So, put your big boy pants on and get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!
:bye1:

Rod Rosenstein’s Political Affiliation: Is He a Republican or a Democrat?
lol
 
You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin

How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
 
You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin

How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
Schiff for brains took a phone call from some Russians and asked for some dirt they had on Trump. The call was a prank, but Schiff thought it was real.
 
On this topic. Would one, or more, of you on the left please tell us exactly what the Russians did that impacted our election? Give us the details. Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

If your claim is that leaking the proof of corruption within and between the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media changed the outcome, fine. Now tell us why the voters were not entitled to know those facts. Next prove that wikileaks got the info from the Russians.

post those proofs, then we can talk. Until then------------------------------------------

No one knows what Russia did or might have done to have impacted the election, so most patriotic Americans - which excludes you and the other Trumpanzees - want to know if the Trump Administration colluded with a foreign power in an effort to effect the outcome of our last general election.

Thus, what needs to be thoroughly investigated and determined is if Treason was afoot or that justice was obstructed; what was done, when, where and by and for whom. Then and only then can an indictment and/or impeachment occur.

That is the American way, no one but a neo fascists or a biddable fool would chant "lock her/them up" without probative evidence; such evidence which is necessary and sufficient to take someone before a trier of fact.
The coup plotters in the Obama administration committed all the treason, not Trump They are the ones who need to be investigated. they are the ones who tried to overthrow a lawfully elected president.
 
On this topic. Would one, or more, of you on the left please tell us exactly what the Russians did that impacted our election? Give us the details. Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

If your claim is that leaking the proof of corruption within and between the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media changed the outcome, fine. Now tell us why the voters were not entitled to know those facts. Next prove that wikileaks got the info from the Russians.

post those proofs, then we can talk. Until then---------------------

---------------------[/QUOTE] Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

The division they put and amplified between Bernie voters and Clinton voters, through their face book ads, their bots and trolls on various social media, their fake Americans organizing rallies in contentious States,

the fake news stories they planted, on the same day of the wikileak emails, pushing false narratives about the emails....and then pushing this fake news through social media and the right wing media and Bernie following media and blogs..

As example, in May of 2016, after Hillary already had technically won, in the delegates but also in the popular vote where Bernie could no longer catch her,

workers at the DNC, were bitching about it
and creating among themselves things they could do to get Bernie to concede the win...which was wrong in a way...

But these workers also knew the facts, and the facts were, Bernie could no longer win, there was no chance of him catching up,

AND most importantly, the longer the Primary winner has to campaign before the convention and prepare for the battle in the election process against the opponent, the better the chance of the candidate winning the election, and in getting the two DNC camps together....to heal...

What the Russians did, was release a News Story about these emails among DNC workers and implied they took place the previous year, and these workers were trying to hurt Bernie early on in the primary, and claimed the DNC was back stabbing Bernie all along and on and on and on and on and on....causing and amplifying division in the Democratic campaigns... this lead to some chaos at their convention, some of the Bernie camp walking out, wasserman resigning....

AND, Bernie voters come election time sat home, and did not vote, or voted for a third party candidate, and some may have even voted for Trump to keep Hillary from getting the job they hated her so much at this point.

So the emails were accurate, but the propaganda put out by the Russians and, their right wing allies in the media that spread it, along with the bots, trolls and faux American bloggers planted in the Bernie Camp side too, was fake news, a little bit of truth with a whole lot of false narratives and spin.

And yes, knowing how the DNC worked behind the scenes was both boring and interesting, but it was also personal and their private doings so, that part makes it wrong for me to read them....they were ILLEGALLY GOTTEN...does THAT not mean something to you?



AND in addition to that, it was an unfair situation, we did NOT get to see all of the emails of Manafort and Kelly Ann like those of Podestas and we did not get to see the turmoil going on in the RNC with Trump leading the primaries and the division in the RNC and their thoughts on it.

THIS MADE THE PLAYING FIELD unlevel, unfair, PERIOD.

So if the Russians had released the emails of the RNC and the campaign managers of Trump,

THEN AND ONLY THEN, would the public had been fully informed.

And these things are only a smidgen of what the Russians did!!!! :eek:
What the Russians did is irrelevant to the investigation. If the Trump campaign played no part in it, then the investigation was a snipe hunt.
 
Trump supporters: I know you're not happy with Robert Mueller poking around in Donald Trump's affairs, and those of his family and associates. I also know you think this is a witch hunt, and a Liberal conspiracy to smear the Trump White House, but there are 2 things you'd better start warming up to:

1. Robert Mueller was appointed by Rob Rosenstein a lifelong Republican appointed to his position by President George W Bush. Mr. Rosenstein found probable cause that Russia did indeed meddle in our election in 2016, and judged that a special counsel was warranted, so please....stop crying Liberal which hunt, it doesn't make any sense.

2. You folks didn't have any problems with special counsels when one was appointed to poke around in Bill Clinton's dealings with Whitewater real estate, and this investigation led them to the Monica Lewinski scandal that got Bill Clinton impeached.

Special counsels are a fact of life for Presidents, and if your golden boy is as squeaky clean as he claims, then there is nothing to worry about. So, put your big boy pants on and get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!
:bye1:

Rod Rosenstein’s Political Affiliation: Is He a Republican or a Democrat?
They all go away in the end. The Beast, Comey, McCain, Avenatti, it just goes on and on, but Trump remains.
 
You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin

How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
Schiff for brains took a phone call from some Russians and asked for some dirt they had on Trump. The call was a prank, but Schiff thought it was real.

Schiff was not a candidate for president. But as good a butwhatabout as you've got I guess!
 
So now we know that Trump had advance knowledge of the wikileaks dumps. As bad as that is (and it's bad) when the report gets unredacted we'll know more about what he knew and how he knew it.

We also know that at the very least Trump attmpted to and conspired to Obstruct Justice. The only thing that kept that effort from being successful was the fact that Trump's people refused to go along with his illegal demands. He has replaced most of those people with people who WILL accede to his demands.

THAT is troubling on its own
 
So now we know that Trump had advance knowledge of the wikileaks dumps. As bad as that is (and it's bad) when the report gets unredacted we'll know more about what he knew and how he knew it.

We also know that at the very least Trump attmpted to and conspired to Obstruct Justice. The only thing that kept that effort from being successful was the fact that Trump's people refused to go along with his illegal demands. He has replaced most of those people with people who WILL accede to his demands.

THAT is troubling on its own

A President Can Not Obstruct Justice you stupid little girl.

Now go clean the bathroom
 
So now we know that Trump had advance knowledge of the wikileaks dumps. As bad as that is (and it's bad) when the report gets unredacted we'll know more about what he knew and how he knew it.

We also know that at the very least Trump attmpted to and conspired to Obstruct Justice. The only thing that kept that effort from being successful was the fact that Trump's people refused to go along with his illegal demands. He has replaced most of those people with people who WILL accede to his demands.

THAT is troubling on its own
So, he conspired to conspire to obstruct justice which he was unable to do. Is this right? :)
 
Trump supporters: I know you're not happy with Robert Mueller poking around in Donald Trump's affairs, and those of his family and associates. I also know you think this is a witch hunt, and a Liberal conspiracy to smear the Trump White House, but there are 2 things you'd better start warming up to:

1. Robert Mueller was appointed by Rob Rosenstein a lifelong Republican appointed to his position by President George W Bush. Mr. Rosenstein found probable cause that Russia did indeed meddle in our election in 2016, and judged that a special counsel was warranted, so please....stop crying Liberal which hunt, it doesn't make any sense.

2. You folks didn't have any problems with special counsels when one was appointed to poke around in Bill Clinton's dealings with Whitewater real estate, and this investigation led them to the Monica Lewinski scandal that got Bill Clinton impeached.

Special counsels are a fact of life for Presidents, and if your golden boy is as squeaky clean as he claims, then there is nothing to worry about. So, put your big boy pants on and get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!
:bye1:

Rod Rosenstein’s Political Affiliation: Is He a Republican or a Democrat?
TRUMP HATERS - get used to him. he's not going away.

the more you do stupid juvenille shit like this and the whole WAH WE LOST THE ELECTION WAH the more you shove people away from your side of things. why not go after real issues? problems? find ways to work together vs. kick each other in the nuts all the time? the whole point of a 2 party system is sometimes you just don't like who is in power. sometimes quite strongly.

but in a country built for us all, this is not a single decision and when someone is president you may not like, tough shit. it happens and it will happen again. liberals need to learn to deal with it vs. pretending if they keep making shit up someone will finally give them their way.

so sure. keep this shit up and you'll have him for 8 years to say ANY DAY NOW YOU'LL SEE WE'RE RIGHT!
The Special Investigation, believe it or not, has nothing to do with "Wah--we lost the election." It has to do with Russia's backdoor attack on our democracy by interfering in our election to an unprecedented degree, and the Trump campaign's tremendous number of "coincidental" contacts with that country before and during the campaign. And the President's reaction by firing Comey, who was spear heading the investigation at the time.

Maybe it's coincidence -- Trump is an international businessman, after all, and a lot of his advisers and friends have contacts from around the world. But one thing you can be sure of, if it isn't a coincidence, Mueller will let us know when this is over.

Every American should be concerned by what Russia did. Anyone who wants to MAGA would want Russia to stay the hell out of it.

Do you support investigating OUR interference in Russian affairs? Why Putin Has an Electoral Bone to Pick With Hillary Clinton
 

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