Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

[flacaltenn]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Is her family member directly involved in this case?

Absofuckingl,utely her sister IS the front person for finding ALL the votes.. And counting them all LEGAL OR ILLEGAL and makes no bones about it.. Get a clue. It's public knowledge her harvesting operation SET UP THESE "out of state" voters to vote in the 1st place..

Georgia group founded by Stacey Abrams under investigation for seeking out-of-state, dead voters | Fox News

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has launched investigations into several groups, including one founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, for seeking to “aggressively” register “ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters” before the state’s Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections.

Raffensburger is the idiot who entered into the "consent decree" with Abrahms just prior to Nov 3rd that opened all those illegal loopholes.. Seems like he's finally decided to "get right' with the interests of voters in Georgia..

 

[Synthaholic]

What's the bigger sin?

A guy who used to live in Atlanta but now lives in Macon casting his vote in Atlanta.

A guy legally registered to vote wrongfully purged from the rolls, denying him his right.

 

[Synthaholic]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Is her family member directly involved in this case?

Absofuckingl,utely her sister IS the front person for finding ALL the votes.. And counting them all LEGAL OR ILLEGAL and makes no bones about it.. Get a clue. It's public knowledge her harvesting operation SET UP THESE "out of state" voters to vote in the 1st place..

Georgia group founded by Stacey Abrams under investigation for seeking out-of-state, dead voters | Fox News

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has launched investigations into several groups, including one founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, for seeking to “aggressively” register “ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters” before the state’s Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections.

Raffensburger is the idiot who entered into the "dissent decree" with Abrahms just prior to Nov 3rd.. Seems like he's finally decided to "get right' with the interests of voters in Georgia..

Stacey Abrams has no role in the Democratic Party. Period. End of story.

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

before we open up how we vote, do you want to ensure we minimize the potential of wrongdoing?

equal application of principles would be amazing.

From my personal perspective, and based upon statements by those overseeing the elections, and the results of court chal,Engels, we seem to have done so. But it isn’t just minimizing potential of wrongdoing that is involved. There is a counterweight on tbe other end of the plank that must be taken into account and balanced: the voter’s rights.

All voters.

Not just the ones you can squeeze in if you alter the process for one sides benefit.

You use "all voters" to hide behind a lot while you push one sides "rights".

All voters is all voters. You are the one trying to make this partisan.

To what degree are you willing to disenfranchise voters to minimize the potential of wrong doing?

Seems to me the first step in this equation would be to first determine whether or not there is a problem so urgent that the only resolution is to take a highly unusual step and purge the rolls a week before an election.

One poster pointed out that this is necessary to prevent “duplicate votes”. That is an easy problem to quantify. Where there any duplicate votes in the Georgia November election? That would be the place to start in determining whether purging the rolls is Truly needed at this time.

Then name me any source who felt this change helped all voters equally.

Every one I've read says it strongly benefitted the left.

"all voters rights" you hide behind again.

What change are you talking about? Purging the rolls?

For the record, it makes no difference if it helps all equally, as long as it hinders none and as long as all voters within that district get treated equally.

 

[flacaltenn]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Stacey Abrams is not involved in the case. She is not a witness and just a member of a party which has an interest in the case.

If your standard was consistent, you can have a judge who has a family member in either party...

Truth is the Judge Abrams ruled on precedence... Again there is very little proven voter fraud and a lot of proven voter suppression...

Why are the GOP afraid of the voting public?

Absolute BULLSHIT.. Abrams vote harvesting operation was BRAGGING about getting out of state voters access to mail ins. See my last post above where Rassenburger is indicting the group for these practices.. Whoever you're getting your news enema from needs to be fired...

 

[bripat9643]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Is her family member directly involved in this case?

Absofuckingl,utely her sister IS the front person for finding ALL the votes.. And counting them all LEGAL OR ILLEGAL and makes no bones about it.. Get a clue. It's public knowledge her harvesting operation SET UP THESE "out of state" voters to vote in the 1st place..

Georgia group founded by Stacey Abrams under investigation for seeking out-of-state, dead voters | Fox News

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has launched investigations into several groups, including one founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, for seeking to “aggressively” register “ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters” before the state’s Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections.

Raffensburger is the idiot who entered into the "consent decree" with Abrahms just prior to Nov 3rd that opened all those illegal loopholes.. Seems like he's finally decided to "get right' with the interests of voters in Georgia..

Too late for him. His head will be on he chopping block in the next election. I will contribute to his opponent.

 

[iceberg]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

before we open up how we vote, do you want to ensure we minimize the potential of wrongdoing?

equal application of principles would be amazing.

From my personal perspective, and based upon statements by those overseeing the elections, and the results of court chal,Engels, we seem to have done so. But it isn’t just minimizing potential of wrongdoing that is involved. There is a counterweight on tbe other end of the plank that must be taken into account and balanced: the voter’s rights.

All voters.

Not just the ones you can squeeze in if you alter the process for one sides benefit.

You use "all voters" to hide behind a lot while you push one sides "rights".

All voters is all voters. You are the one trying to make this partisan.

To what degree are you willing to disenfranchise voters to minimize the potential of wrong doing?

Seems to me the first step in this equation would be to first determine whether or not there is a problem so urgent that the only resolution is to take a highly unusual step and purge the rolls a week before an election.

One poster pointed out that this is necessary to prevent “duplicate votes”. That is an easy problem to quantify. Where there any duplicate votes in the Georgia November election? That would be the place to start in determining whether purging the rolls is Truly needed at this time.

Then name me any source who felt this change helped all voters equally.

Every one I've read says it strongly benefitted the left.

"all voters rights" you hide behind again.

What change are you talking about? Purging the rolls?

For the record, it makes no difference if it helps all equally, as long as it hinders none and as long as all voters within that district get treated equally.

Show me any expert who said it benefitted all equally.

You pushed for it because it was an advantage. Saying "everyone can do it" isn't being honest about motive.

Yet you wonder why motives come into question so often, but you expect others to share outrage when this same process works against you.

 

[flacaltenn]

What's the bigger sin?

A guy who used to live in Atlanta but now lives in Macon casting his vote in Atlanta.

A guy legally registered to vote wrongfully purged from the rolls, denying him his right.

Laws are laws.. If you didn't care to re-register when you moved -- maybe you shouldn't vote.. Especially because HERE we're talking about 4000 voters who are NO LONGER IN THE STATE. Or never WERE in the state of Georgia..

Dont you remember all the snark about getting people to move to Georgia JUST FOR THIS ELECTION? It had a grain of truth to the design of packing the ballots with ILLEGAL VOTES..

Dems don't seem to understand LEGAL and ILLEGAL.. It's some kind of congenital mental defect..

 

[Coyote]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Is her family member directly involved in this case?

Absofuckingl,utely her sister IS the front person for finding ALL the votes.. And counting them all LEGAL OR ILLEGAL and makes no bones about it.. Get a clue. It's public knowledge her harvesting operation SET UP THESE "out of state" voters to vote in the 1st place..

Georgia group founded by Stacey Abrams under investigation for seeking out-of-state, dead voters | Fox News

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has launched investigations into several groups, including one founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, for seeking to “aggressively” register “ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters” before the state’s Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections.

Raffensburger is the idiot who entered into the "consent decree" with Abrahms just prior to Nov 3rd that opened all those illegal loopholes.. Seems like he's finally decided to "get right' with the interests of voters in Georgia..

I am going to wait and see what actually comes out of all Raffensburger’s claims, given how he ran against Abrams. According to your article, Stacy Abrams is involved with only one of the multiple groups he is investigating, and none them are the participants of the legal actions folks seem to think the judge should recuse herself from.

 

[flacaltenn]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Is her family member directly involved in this case?

Absofuckingl,utely her sister IS the front person for finding ALL the votes.. And counting them all LEGAL OR ILLEGAL and makes no bones about it.. Get a clue. It's public knowledge her harvesting operation SET UP THESE "out of state" voters to vote in the 1st place..

Georgia group founded by Stacey Abrams under investigation for seeking out-of-state, dead voters | Fox News

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has launched investigations into several groups, including one founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, for seeking to “aggressively” register “ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters” before the state’s Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections.

Raffensburger is the idiot who entered into the "dissent decree" with Abrahms just prior to Nov 3rd.. Seems like he's finally decided to "get right' with the interests of voters in Georgia..

Stacey Abrams has no role in the Democratic Party. Period. End of story.

Sure Sure Sure -- Just ran for GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA as a Democrat... And whatTF does that have to do with anything even if you were right? --- which your not obviously..

 

[flacaltenn]

I am going to wait and see what actually comes out of all Raffensburger’s claims, given how he ran against Abrams.

Raffensburger groveled at her feet when she sued the state with a list of ILLEGAL DEMANDS to screw with the Georgia Constitution and the assigned power of the GA StateHouse to be the SOLE gatekeeper of election law.. He caved and signed a "consent decree" to keep the activists from burning down the major cities in Georgia if they didn't get their way..

What do you mean -- when he "ran against her"?? That's nothing recent is it?

And there IS NO TIME "to wait and see"... I want to see all 4000 of those fraud voters PROSECUTED and SERVING TIME at the very least if this goes thru.. They're gonna have to build a new prison just to HOLD ALL THOSE PEOPLE and Abrahms.

 

[flacaltenn]

Stacey Abrams is THE REASON those 4000 NON RESIDENTS voted the last time and is determined that they vote THIS TIME.. She's running the steal in Georgia and bragging about it.. No way her sister doesn't know this..

So, voting is stealing - if you're a Democrat.

Once again.. When Dems scream that they are gonna "COUNT ALL THE VOTES" --- what this REALLY MEANS is they count whether they are dead, living in another state, under the proper age or ANY OTHER ILLEGAL method... So yeah.. Until it becomes "count every LEGAL VOTE" --- you're criminals and stealing elections.. Simple.. Live with it...

 

[Dragonlady]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

You are seriously ignorant. The rules on reclusal are NOT designed for just political figures or public figures or just Republicans.. Lemme help you out here..

28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

(a)
Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.

(b)He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:
(1)
Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;
(2)
Where in private practice he served as lawyer in the matter in controversy, or a lawyer with whom he previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer concerning the matter, or the judge or such lawyer has been a material witness concerning it;
(3)
Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy;
(4)
He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(5)He or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:
(i)
Is a party to the proceeding, or an officer, director, or trustee of a party;
(ii)
Is acting as a lawyer in the proceeding;
(iii)
Is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(iv)
Is to the judge’s knowledge likely to be a material witness in the proceeding.



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Stacey Abrams is THE REASON those 4000 NON RESIDENTS voted the last time and is determined that they vote THIS TIME.. She's running the steal in Georgia and bragging about it.. No way her sister doesn't know this..

It's pitchfork time.. If I lived in Georgia -- I'd be spending the week protesting outside that courthouse..

There is no evidence that these 4000 non-residents voted last election. Your making a lot of assumptions. Like Stacey Abrams had anything to do with these 4000 names being on the voters list in the first place. You assumed that because the issue is voting rights, Abrams is associated with the case.

 

[iceberg]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

You are seriously ignorant. The rules on reclusal are NOT designed for just political figures or public figures or just Republicans.. Lemme help you out here..

28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

(a)
Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.

(b)He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:
(1)
Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;
(2)
Where in private practice he served as lawyer in the matter in controversy, or a lawyer with whom he previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer concerning the matter, or the judge or such lawyer has been a material witness concerning it;
(3)
Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy;
(4)
He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(5)He or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:
(i)
Is a party to the proceeding, or an officer, director, or trustee of a party;
(ii)
Is acting as a lawyer in the proceeding;
(iii)
Is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(iv)
Is to the judge’s knowledge likely to be a material witness in the proceeding.



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Stacey Abrams is THE REASON those 4000 NON RESIDENTS voted the last time and is determined that they vote THIS TIME.. She's running the steal in Georgia and bragging about it.. No way her sister doesn't know this..

It's pitchfork time.. If I lived in Georgia -- I'd be spending the week protesting outside that courthouse..

There is no evidence that these 4000 non-residents voted last election. Your making a lot of assumptions. Like Stacey Abrams had anything to do with these 4000 names being on the voters list in the first place. You assumed that because the issue is voting rights, Abrams is associated with the case.

Then if theres no evidence these 4000 voters voted in the last election then they can be removed safely.

You really need to think this shit thru.

 

[Synthaholic]

Abrams vote harvesting operation was BRAGGING about getting out of state voters access to mail ins.

Like any citizen is welcome to do. My brother lives in Germany but still votes in the Nevada election each year.

 

[Coyote]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

before we open up how we vote, do you want to ensure we minimize the potential of wrongdoing?

equal application of principles would be amazing.

From my personal perspective, and based upon statements by those overseeing the elections, and the results of court chal,Engels, we seem to have done so. But it isn’t just minimizing potential of wrongdoing that is involved. There is a counterweight on tbe other end of the plank that must be taken into account and balanced: the voter’s rights.

All voters.

Not just the ones you can squeeze in if you alter the process for one sides benefit.

You use "all voters" to hide behind a lot while you push one sides "rights".

All voters is all voters. You are the one trying to make this partisan.

To what degree are you willing to disenfranchise voters to minimize the potential of wrong doing?

Seems to me the first step in this equation would be to first determine whether or not there is a problem so urgent that the only resolution is to take a highly unusual step and purge the rolls a week before an election.

One poster pointed out that this is necessary to prevent “duplicate votes”. That is an easy problem to quantify. Where there any duplicate votes in the Georgia November election? That would be the place to start in determining whether purging the rolls is Truly needed at this time.

Then name me any source who felt this change helped all voters equally.

Every one I've read says it strongly benefitted the left.

"all voters rights" you hide behind again.

What change are you talking about? Purging the rolls?

For the record, it makes no difference if it helps all equally, as long as it hinders none and as long as all voters within that district get treated equally.

Show me any expert who said it benefitted all equally.

You pushed for it because it was an advantage. Saying "everyone can do it" isn't being honest about motive.

I am totally not getting what you are trying to say here.

Purging voter rolls is something that needs to be done periodically in order to keep them up to date.

When rolls are purged, there are always a number of legitimate voters purged along with those who are dead or have moved.

For that reason it is rarely done shortly before an election.

Now you ask who does it benefit? Well that depends on what jurisdiction is purging their rolls. You seem obsessed with whether one side or another benefits or loses. How about taking the side of the voter? It doesn’t matter which side it is, anyone who is a legitimate voter should not be disenfranchised or have undue obstacles to voting. Wouldn’t you agree?

If something results in benefiting one partisan side over another, soly due to personal voter preferences, not from any side being prevented from acting, then what does it matter? I think the example you are looking at is mail in voting. Voting at the polls increases Republican turn out. Voting by mail increases Democrat turn out. Both have equal access to each option within a jurisdiction. What is the problem with that?

 

[iceberg]

A voter purge shortly before a run off election of national importance? Can voter suppression be any more blatant? Do it after.

but they moved???
so why keep them on when they dont live there anymore??

Strawman. No one is arguing voter rolls shouldn’t be kept up to date Or purged. The issue is the timing.

You don’t know for sure if they moved or not, there is usually a process that allows for challenges and reinstatement in plenty of time for an election.

theres never a better time than right before an election,, you do want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

its not like its going to take a lot of time or money,, all they have to do is hit delete,,, the list is already made,,

Purges often include a number of legitimate voters, who will, in this case lack the time to challenge it. That is why it is usually done well before an election. To use your words: you do
want to insure theres no possibility of wrong doing dont you???

before we open up how we vote, do you want to ensure we minimize the potential of wrongdoing?

equal application of principles would be amazing.

From my personal perspective, and based upon statements by those overseeing the elections, and the results of court chal,Engels, we seem to have done so. But it isn’t just minimizing potential of wrongdoing that is involved. There is a counterweight on tbe other end of the plank that must be taken into account and balanced: the voter’s rights.

All voters.

Not just the ones you can squeeze in if you alter the process for one sides benefit.

You use "all voters" to hide behind a lot while you push one sides "rights".

All voters is all voters. You are the one trying to make this partisan.

To what degree are you willing to disenfranchise voters to minimize the potential of wrong doing?

Seems to me the first step in this equation would be to first determine whether or not there is a problem so urgent that the only resolution is to take a highly unusual step and purge the rolls a week before an election.

One poster pointed out that this is necessary to prevent “duplicate votes”. That is an easy problem to quantify. Where there any duplicate votes in the Georgia November election? That would be the place to start in determining whether purging the rolls is Truly needed at this time.

Then name me any source who felt this change helped all voters equally.

Every one I've read says it strongly benefitted the left.

"all voters rights" you hide behind again.

What change are you talking about? Purging the rolls?

For the record, it makes no difference if it helps all equally, as long as it hinders none and as long as all voters within that district get treated equally.

Show me any expert who said it benefitted all equally.

You pushed for it because it was an advantage. Saying "everyone can do it" isn't being honest about motive.

I am totally not getting what you are trying to say here.

Purging voter rolls is something that needs to be done periodically in order to keep them up to date.

When rolls are purged, there are always a number of legitimate voters purged along with those who are dead or have moved.

For that reason it is rarely done shortly before an election.

Now you ask who does it benefit? Well that depends on what jurisdiction is purging their rolls. You seem obsessed with whether one side or another benefits or loses. How about taking the side of the voter? It doesn’t matter which side it is, anyone who is a legitimate voter should not be disenfranchised or have undue obstacles to voting. Wouldn’t you agree?

If something results in benefiting one partisan side over another, soly due to personal voter preferences, not from any side being prevented from acting, then what does it matter? I think the example you are looking at is mail in voting. Voting at the polls increases Republican turn out. Voting by mail increases Democrat turn out. Both have equal access to each option within a jurisdiction. What is the problem with that?



Yet you wonder why motives come into question so often, but you expect others to share outrage when this same process works against you.

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The left didn't push for mail in voting because it helped all equally. It was political for 1 sides benefit.

If you want to change how we vote then let's blow it up and start all over, starting with voter I'd or you do not vote. We still good with making wholesale changes to our voting process? Disenfranchise? They can get an ID just as easily as I can...

Same reasoning but for a different reason. Different reasons for doing it don't change wrong to right simply because you like one reason over the other.

Now the right is doing something by purging voters and suddenly changing the rules is wrong.

You allow last minute rule changes or you don't. You get selective then you damn well show your changes are ONLY FOR partisan benefit.

 

[Synthaholic]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

Her sister ran for Governor there, for the Dem Party. She was appointed by Obama, who is still very active in politics.

Are we to pretend her and her sister don't speak anymore?

So you are essentially saying because of the she should recuse herself from ruling on anything political?

No, not seeing a conflict here. Using your logic every Trump judge should be recused.

Of course being an uneducated partisan ass you see nothing wrong. Simple ethics dictates recusal in a case involving a family member. Any decision could easily be appealed and overturned by a higher court. It’s called common sense and doing the right thing. Something you and your leftist friends can’t comprehend.

Is her family member directly involved in this case?

Absofuckingl,utely her sister IS the front person for finding ALL the votes.. And counting them all LEGAL OR ILLEGAL and makes no bones about it.. Get a clue. It's public knowledge her harvesting operation SET UP THESE "out of state" voters to vote in the 1st place..

Georgia group founded by Stacey Abrams under investigation for seeking out-of-state, dead voters | Fox News

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has launched investigations into several groups, including one founded by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, for seeking to “aggressively” register “ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters” before the state’s Jan. 5 Senate runoff elections.

Raffensburger is the idiot who entered into the "dissent decree" with Abrahms just prior to Nov 3rd.. Seems like he's finally decided to "get right' with the interests of voters in Georgia..

Stacey Abrams has no role in the Democratic Party. Period. End of story.

Sure Sure Sure -- Just ran for GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA as a Democrat... And whatTF does that have to do with anything even if you were right? --- which your not obviously..

Because you posted that guideline for recusal, which mentions being related to Party officials.

Didn't you read it first?

And so what she ran for Governor. That doesn't lose her any rights.

 

[Synthaholic]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

You are seriously ignorant. The rules on reclusal are NOT designed for just political figures or public figures or just Republicans.. Lemme help you out here..

28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

(a)
Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.

(b)He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:
(1)
Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;
(2)
Where in private practice he served as lawyer in the matter in controversy, or a lawyer with whom he previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer concerning the matter, or the judge or such lawyer has been a material witness concerning it;
(3)
Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy;
(4)
He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(5)He or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:
(i)
Is a party to the proceeding, or an officer, director, or trustee of a party;
(ii)
Is acting as a lawyer in the proceeding;
(iii)
Is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(iv)
Is to the judge’s knowledge likely to be a material witness in the proceeding.



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Stacey Abrams is THE REASON those 4000 NON RESIDENTS voted the last time and is determined that they vote THIS TIME.. She's running the steal in Georgia and bragging about it.. No way her sister doesn't know this..

It's pitchfork time.. If I lived in Georgia -- I'd be spending the week protesting outside that courthouse..

There is no evidence that these 4000 non-residents voted last election. Your making a lot of assumptions. Like Stacey Abrams had anything to do with these 4000 names being on the voters list in the first place. You assumed that because the issue is voting rights, Abrams is associated with the case.

Then if theres no evidence these 4000 voters voted in the last election then they can be removed safely.

You really need to think this shit thru.

They have every right to vote in the elections they wish. It's not "use it or lose it" with Constitutional rights.

 

[iceberg]

Remember the saying "unintended consequences". This, of the Trump loss in particular Battleground States due to Bidens overwhelming popularity.

Per the article:

Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama, said she found no reason to recuse herself from the case.

Georgia judge, Stacey Abrams' sister, rules against voter purge before Senate runoffs

Two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

www.foxnews.com

A Georgia judge who is the sister of Democratic politician Stacey Abrams refused to recuse herself from a crucial election case, instead ruling against the purge of 4,000 voters from state rolls before Senate runoffs.



U.S. District Judge Leslie Abrams Gardner's ruling comes after two counties voted to remove a tranche of voters' names from their rosters after two separate complaints alleged that publicly available voter registration data matched unverified change-of-address records by the U.S. Postal Service.

The complaints in Muscogee and Ben Hill counties, however, failed to prove that the voters had actually given up Georgia residences, according to reports by Politico.

Marc Elias, a Democratic Party attorney whose group Democracy Forward filed the lawsuit challenging the purges, called Gardner's decision a "blow to GOP voter suppression."

Why should she recuse herself? Abrams isn’t an elected official.

You are seriously ignorant. The rules on reclusal are NOT designed for just political figures or public figures or just Republicans.. Lemme help you out here..

28 U.S. Code § 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

(a)
Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.

(b)He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:
(1)
Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;
(2)
Where in private practice he served as lawyer in the matter in controversy, or a lawyer with whom he previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer concerning the matter, or the judge or such lawyer has been a material witness concerning it;
(3)
Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy;
(4)
He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(5)He or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:
(i)
Is a party to the proceeding, or an officer, director, or trustee of a party;
(ii)
Is acting as a lawyer in the proceeding;
(iii)
Is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(iv)
Is to the judge’s knowledge likely to be a material witness in the proceeding.



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Stacey Abrams is THE REASON those 4000 NON RESIDENTS voted the last time and is determined that they vote THIS TIME.. She's running the steal in Georgia and bragging about it.. No way her sister doesn't know this..

It's pitchfork time.. If I lived in Georgia -- I'd be spending the week protesting outside that courthouse..

There is no evidence that these 4000 non-residents voted last election. Your making a lot of assumptions. Like Stacey Abrams had anything to do with these 4000 names being on the voters list in the first place. You assumed that because the issue is voting rights, Abrams is associated with the case.

Then if theres no evidence these 4000 voters voted in the last election then they can be removed safely.

You really need to think this shit thru.

They have every right to vote in the elections they wish. It's not "use it or lose it" with Constitutional rights.

Fuck off.