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According to my campaign medal troops were already on the ground by 1960.godfreaking DAMN!
the Marines landed in Nam March 1965
we had troops over there before that
Tet was Jan 1968--that's over 2.7 years with no noticeable ''advance''
....at least in WW2, after about the same amount of time, we were taking the Philippines back....we advanced a LOOOOOONG way in 2.7 years
As I remember it, you're right. They were "called" that.But didn't the Kennedy Admin call them "military advisors"?According to my campaign medal troops were already on the ground by 1960.
yes.....and we helped the French before that with $ Millions--and the French lostAccording to my campaign medal troops were already on the ground by 1960.godfreaking DAMN!
the Marines landed in Nam March 1965
we had troops over there before that
Tet was Jan 1968--that's over 2.7 years with no noticeable ''advance''
....at least in WW2, after about the same amount of time, we were taking the Philippines back....we advanced a LOOOOOONG way in 2.7 years
Really?We kinda knew we were not going to winwe were not planning to lose.That's true.High command can only do what they are tasked to do.
Ask high command and they'll inform you that they were never tasked to do anything but shoot and bomb. Have you not been following this thread closely?What were we planning to do with Vietnam?
and the US still lost--plain and simplelike the US defeats in the Revolutionary War?Rubbish. What do you think the VC were? They were crushed by Tet, and their own leadership says this; it was the U.S. press and left wingers that kept them at war, with bullshit stories about how we were 'losing n stuff'. And we all know who won the Cold War, and Johnson's escalation in Viet Nam went a long way in bankrupting the Khrushchev Doctrine. It had to shut down its global insurrection campaign in 1973, and the West took it to a soft landing after that. It's more than stupid to keep babbling how ' we lost n stuff', when it's immediately obvious we didn't lose a thing.
Actually, their own leadership said they would have fought indefinitely. They had been fighting nonstop for 25 years, Tet was not going to stop them.
After Tet, it became obvious ....1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
It became obvious to all that we didn’t have a plan or an exit strategy
Actually Giap said they were finished as an armed resistance movement.
The 25 Deadliest Battles of the Revolutionary War - Journal of the American Revolution
Nope. Tet was their last gasp. After that NVA troops swarmed over the borders, against the UN mandates we were abiding by.
Tet was just another battle--like Bunker Hill, etc
in WW2 the Russians lost 8 million [ military deaths only ] and ------------------------WON
Tet was just another battle...losses meant nothing
all proven by NV WINNING the War
the whole world saw us as a big bully killing civiliansANDwe lostA US “Victory” would have led to Viet Cong led insurgency supported by Russia and China
We would have had to remain to support the Saigon Government and would still be taking casualties
Rubbish. What do you think the VC were? They were crushed by Tet, and their own leadership says this; it was the U.S. press and left wingers that kept them at war, with bullshit stories about how we were 'losing n stuff'. And we all know who won the Cold War, and Johnson's escalation in Viet Nam went a long way in bankrupting the Khrushchev Doctrine. It had to shut down its global insurrection campaign in 1973, and the West took it to a soft landing after that. It's more than stupid to keep babbling how ' we lost n stuff', when it's immediately obvious we didn't lose a thing.
1. the communist took over SV
2. 50,000 dead and thousands more maimed/etc
the US divided
losing credibility all over the world
Who did we 'lose credibility' with? Can you name a country that abandoned their treaties with us, or any other deal, due to our 'lack of credibility', and ran to join up with the Soviets or the Chinese??? We were propping up the SU from 1973 on; what were they going to do, refuse our wheat, refined petroleum imports, and all the rest, cuz we 'lacked credibility'?
A terrible record, ain't it. Helped the French in Vietnam and got stuck there themselves. Then actively sabotaged the Russians in Afghanistan and got stuck there too! When to Beirut and got run out. Then in Somalia and got tossed out of there. "Good old Yankee know-how! We'll show 'em how it's done, Pilgrim!"yes.....and we helped the French before that with $ Millions--and the French lostAccording to my campaign medal troops were already on the ground by 1960.
Actually the U.S. and Britain won; Russians were only in the war because we supplied them and kept them in it. Tet was important because it shut down the Viet Cong almost completely. The NV 'won' the war only because the U.S. Congress gave it to them on a platter.
ok--enough of the bullshitand the US still lost--plain and simplelike the US defeats in the Revolutionary War?Actually, their own leadership said they would have fought indefinitely. They had been fighting nonstop for 25 years, Tet was not going to stop them.
After Tet, it became obvious ....1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
It became obvious to all that we didn’t have a plan or an exit strategy
Actually Giap said they were finished as an armed resistance movement.
The 25 Deadliest Battles of the Revolutionary War - Journal of the American Revolution
Nope. Tet was their last gasp. After that NVA troops swarmed over the borders, against the UN mandates we were abiding by.
Tet was just another battle--like Bunker Hill, etc
in WW2 the Russians lost 8 million [ military deaths only ] and ------------------------WON
Tet was just another battle...losses meant nothing
all proven by NV WINNING the War
Actually the U.S. and Britain won; Russians were only in the war because we supplied them and kept them in it. Tet was important because it shut down the Viet Cong almost completely. The NV 'won' the war only because the U.S. Congress gave it to them on a platter.
and the US still lost--plain and simplelike the US defeats in the Revolutionary War?Actually, their own leadership said they would have fought indefinitely. They had been fighting nonstop for 25 years, Tet was not going to stop them.
After Tet, it became obvious ....1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
It became obvious to all that we didn’t have a plan or an exit strategy
Actually Giap said they were finished as an armed resistance movement.
The 25 Deadliest Battles of the Revolutionary War - Journal of the American Revolution
Nope. Tet was their last gasp. After that NVA troops swarmed over the borders, against the UN mandates we were abiding by.
Tet was just another battle--like Bunker Hill, etc
in WW2 the Russians lost 8 million [ military deaths only ] and ------------------------WON
Tet was just another battle...losses meant nothing
all proven by NV WINNING the War
Actually the U.S. and Britain won; Russians were only in the war because we supplied them and kept them in it. Tet was important because it shut down the Viet Cong almost completely. The NV 'won' the war only because the U.S. Congress gave it to them on a platter.
USSR was responsible for 90 percent of the victory against Nazi Germanyand the US still lost--plain and simplelike the US defeats in the Revolutionary War?Actually, their own leadership said they would have fought indefinitely. They had been fighting nonstop for 25 years, Tet was not going to stop them.
After Tet, it became obvious ....1,2,3 what are we fighting for?
It became obvious to all that we didn’t have a plan or an exit strategy
Actually Giap said they were finished as an armed resistance movement.
The 25 Deadliest Battles of the Revolutionary War - Journal of the American Revolution
Nope. Tet was their last gasp. After that NVA troops swarmed over the borders, against the UN mandates we were abiding by.
Tet was just another battle--like Bunker Hill, etc
in WW2 the Russians lost 8 million [ military deaths only ] and ------------------------WON
Tet was just another battle...losses meant nothing
all proven by NV WINNING the War
Actually the U.S. and Britain won; Russians were only in the war because we supplied them and kept them in it. Tet was important because it shut down the Viet Cong almost completely. The NV 'won' the war only because the U.S. Congress gave it to them on a platter.
Pure logic.USSR was responsible for 90 percent of the victory against Nazi Germany
The North Vietnamese were in for the duration. We were not
