GALLUP: Police are 3rd highest in American "Confidence in Institution"; Sorry OWS.

[Bfgrn]

Ahh, yes, the ol' "It's society's fault!!" argument, popular among those who feel that minorities aren't capable of making their own decisions.

Are you really THAT obtuse? Seriously? Please tell me again how you used to be a Democrat? Did you have a lobotomy?

THINK about it turd brain...

In 1975, the rate of incarceration in the U.S. was 100 per 100,000 people, a rate that hadn't fluctuated much in the previous half century. And even after 1975, though the incarceration rate slowly climbed to its present-day 700 per 100,000. Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously; the United States simply grew more punitive.

You right wing bastards have NO comprehension of freedom and liberty. If farting became a crime, you mindless statists would call for the death penalty. There is ZERO contemplation inside your tiny little pea.

Another illogical, irrational, whiny little emo-btich leftist...

I'm sorry, I lost my head...Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously, it's just more government in our lives...a LOT more government in our lives. I know you right wing statists LOVE a LOT more government in our lives...

Even your beloved Heritage Foundation can't ignore the FACT: The US has less than 5 percent of the world’s population. But it has 25% of the world’s prison population.

Overcriminalization: An Explosion of Federal Criminal Law

 

[Harry Dresden]

More proof that murkins are fools.

well go ahead Gordo....tell us how the Cops in Costa Rica are just the greatest Cops anywhere and they just dont lose it....

As long as he keeps the poop cleaned off the streets, they leave him alone.

i bet he doesnt talk down there like he does on line here also.....the Pussy....

 

[FactFinder]

GALLUP: Police are 3rd highest in American "Confidence in Institution";

and...falling fast.

 

[Unkotare]

...Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously

I didn't see where you provided proof of this.


Are you trying to say we are better at identifying and punishing crime? That tougher sentencing has led to declining crime rates? That most of the people in prison are really innocent and it's all a big government conspiracy? That we should choose from a rotating selection of relatively small and homogeneous European countries and only imprison exactly as many people as that country does at any given time regardless of crimes committed here? Would we have more *insert weeping and dramatic soundtrack here* freedom and liberty if most of the people in prison today for whatever reason were summarily released by big man obama via royal decree? You need to support your claim and clarify your conclusions.

 

[bucs90]

Well there is the epitome of how the conservative mind works...

SUDDENLY, in the early 1970's, there was a drastic change in human nature...WOW!

You are a fucking genius...Sigmund Freud move over!!!

You right wing turds are not 'tough on crime'. You are tough on freedom and liberty.

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
Edmund Burke

Ahh, yes, the ol' "It's society's fault!!" argument, popular among those who feel that minorities aren't capable of making their own decisions.

Are you really THAT obtuse? Seriously? Please tell me again how you used to be a Democrat? Did you have a lobotomy?

THINK about it turd brain...

In 1975, the rate of incarceration in the U.S. was 100 per 100,000 people, a rate that hadn't fluctuated much in the previous half century. And even after 1975, though the incarceration rate slowly climbed to its present-day 700 per 100,000. Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously; the United States simply grew more punitive.

You right wing bastards have NO comprehension of freedom and liberty. If farting became a crime, you mindless statists would call for the death penalty. There is ZERO contemplation inside your tiny little pea.

And you want to know what caused the sudden spike in crime in the 1980's and 90's?

Two simple words, the invention of the "crack rock".

Hard drugs fuck peoples minds, addicts them, causes them to steal, rape, do dumb illegal shit. Crack cocaine was the 1st. Heroine. Acid. Speed. And on the list goes.

But crack in the 80's is what fueled the spike in prison numbers.

Dont agree? Do the research. You'll find the truth.

 

[bucs90]

...Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously

I didn't see where you provided proof of this.


Are you trying to say we are better at identifying and punishing crime? That tougher sentencing has led to declining crime rates? That most of the people in prison are really innocent and it's all a big government conspiracy? That we should choose from a rotating selection of relatively small and homogeneous European countries and only imprison exactly as many people as that country does at any given time regardless of crimes committed here? Would we have more *insert weeping and dramatic soundtrack here* freedom and liberty if most of the people in prison today for whatever reason were summarily released by big man obama via royal decree? You need to support your claim and clarify your conclusions.

Well put,


The rise of hard drugs, in particular crack in the 80's, fueled the increase in criminal behavior, while at the same time cops began getting new technology like more cameras, internet, etc, etc, to fight crime. Thus, more ability to catch criminals. Of course prison numbers would grow.

Plus, thanks to liberal sentencing and paroles, criminals aren't scared of going back. Repeat offenders are so common.

 

[Laddie]

...Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously

I didn't see where you provided proof of this.


Are you trying to say we are better at identifying and punishing crime? That tougher sentencing has led to declining crime rates? That most of the people in prison are really innocent and it's all a big government conspiracy? That we should choose from a rotating selection of relatively small and homogeneous European countries and only imprison exactly as many people as that country does at any given time regardless of crimes committed here? Would we have more *insert weeping and dramatic soundtrack here* freedom and liberty if most of the people in prison today for whatever reason were summarily released by big man obama via royal decree? You need to support your claim and clarify your conclusions.

Well put,


The rise of hard drugs, in particular crack in the 80's, fueled the increase in criminal behavior, while at the same time cops began getting new technology like more cameras, internet, etc, etc, to fight crime. Thus, more ability to catch criminals. Of course prison numbers would grow.

Plus, thanks to liberal sentencing and paroles, criminals aren't scared of going back. Repeat offenders are so common.

So you agree: Crack smoking police fueled the increase in criminal behavior. When the police department needs crack they harass and collect from some innocent person to either gain money to buy their crack or crack down on the drug dealer whom they can steal their crack from....ect ... to fight crime....of course the more crack heads the police departments hires the more innocents are sent to jail.

Plus, thanks to all these crack head police officers on the street....police officers think they are above the law and can sent innocents to prison while they smoke crack, keep their job, until they get caught and are sent away to prison for a very long time.

Despite what you may think about your police department....OWS is bringing them down.
And they are going down so fast they can't keep up.

By 2013 there is going to more police officers occupying jails and prisons than any other profession in america!!

 

[bucs90]

I didn't see where you provided proof of this.


Are you trying to say we are better at identifying and punishing crime? That tougher sentencing has led to declining crime rates? That most of the people in prison are really innocent and it's all a big government conspiracy? That we should choose from a rotating selection of relatively small and homogeneous European countries and only imprison exactly as many people as that country does at any given time regardless of crimes committed here? Would we have more *insert weeping and dramatic soundtrack here* freedom and liberty if most of the people in prison today for whatever reason were summarily released by big man obama via royal decree? You need to support your claim and clarify your conclusions.

Well put,


The rise of hard drugs, in particular crack in the 80's, fueled the increase in criminal behavior, while at the same time cops began getting new technology like more cameras, internet, etc, etc, to fight crime. Thus, more ability to catch criminals. Of course prison numbers would grow.

Plus, thanks to liberal sentencing and paroles, criminals aren't scared of going back. Repeat offenders are so common.

So you agree: Crack smoking police fueled the increase in criminal behavior. When the police department needs crack they harass and collect from some innocent person to either gain money to buy their crack or crack down on the drug dealer whom they can steal their crack from....ect ... to fight crime....of course the more crack heads the police departments hires the more innocents are sent to jail.

Plus, thanks to all these crack head police officers on the street....police officers think they are above the law and can sent innocents to prison while they smoke crack, keep their job, until they get caught and are sent away to prison for a very long time.

Despite what you may think about your police department....OWS is bringing them down.
And they are going down so fast they can't keep up.

By 2013 there is going to more police officers occupying jails and prisons than any other profession in america!!

Wow. I'll give you credit. I'm speechless. I can only say you are a poster child for the product of public education.

BTW....dont invest too much in the notion that the OWS'ers will "bring down" the police in America.

IF there will be so many cops in jail....just who do you think is gonna arrest them and put them there??????????? And for WHAT CRIME?

 

[bucs90]

. When the police department needs crack they harass and collect from some innocent person

But I did want to point out, and laugh at, one thing you said: That cops would take crack-cocaine off some "innocent" person. Get it? Taking "crack" off an "innocent"....nah, nevermind, you wont get it.

@

 

[Unkotare]

I didn't see where you provided proof of this.


Are you trying to say we are better at identifying and punishing crime? That tougher sentencing has led to declining crime rates? That most of the people in prison are really innocent and it's all a big government conspiracy? That we should choose from a rotating selection of relatively small and homogeneous European countries and only imprison exactly as many people as that country does at any given time regardless of crimes committed here? Would we have more *insert weeping and dramatic soundtrack here* freedom and liberty if most of the people in prison today for whatever reason were summarily released by big man obama via royal decree? You need to support your claim and clarify your conclusions.

Well put,


The rise of hard drugs, in particular crack in the 80's, fueled the increase in criminal behavior, while at the same time cops began getting new technology like more cameras, internet, etc, etc, to fight crime. Thus, more ability to catch criminals. Of course prison numbers would grow.

Plus, thanks to liberal sentencing and paroles, criminals aren't scared of going back. Repeat offenders are so common.

So you agree: Crack smoking police fueled the increase in criminal behavior. When the police department needs crack they harass and collect from some innocent person to either gain money to buy their crack or crack down on the drug dealer whom they can steal their crack from....ect ... to fight crime....of course the more crack heads the police departments hires the more innocents are sent to jail.

Plus, thanks to all these crack head police officers on the street....police officers think they are above the law and can sent innocents to prison while they smoke crack, keep their job, until they get caught and are sent away to prison for a very long time.

Despite what you may think about your police department....OWS is bringing them down.
And they are going down so fast they can't keep up.

By 2013 there is going to more police officers occupying jails and prisons than any other profession in america!!

I can't tell if that post was a good joke or an alarming indication of your insanity.

 

[rdean]

That is one idiotic statement. More then proving you havent the slightest clue.

You are good for a laugh though. As your side made sure those crooks got large bonuses.

Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good. Look at the Bush tax cuts. Obama nor the Democrats wanted them extended. Republicans held millions of unemployed hostage threatening to cut off their unemployment and leave them destitute. Republicans don't care about regular Americans, that much is plain. Look at you.

Now try to argue with that fact even after the conservative Christian Science Monitor called Republicans out on their hostage taking. Of course, you will call it a lie. You maybe will even convince yourself that it couldn't be true. But deep down you know it is. That's why you are in such denial.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. The fact you only wish to call it one way more then proves you classify as a useful idiot. Why did they need more unemployment when the stimulus had all of that covered.

Because you lying POSs were all about crony payoffs. There is a wealth of that from this admin, but its the repubs. Stupid is as stupid does. Mini stimulus 2 Buying votes at the local governments one at a time.

40% of the stimulus was Republican tax cuts. Tax cuts don't mean squat if you don't have a job.

Who even knows what you're talking about? Or about 90% of the right wing for that matter.

 

[Laddie]

It seems many/most on the left only care about cops when screaming about needing more spending, they need one, and when the union dues are due.

That is not true. Just because someone has a leftiest point of view doesn't mean they don't pay their taxes and deserve the same respect from police as elite white folk have.

Shut up you Nazi racist moron.

 

[Bfgrn]

...Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously

I didn't see where you provided proof of this.


Are you trying to say we are better at identifying and punishing crime? That tougher sentencing has led to declining crime rates? That most of the people in prison are really innocent and it's all a big government conspiracy? That we should choose from a rotating selection of relatively small and homogeneous European countries and only imprison exactly as many people as that country does at any given time regardless of crimes committed here? Would we have more *insert weeping and dramatic soundtrack here* freedom and liberty if most of the people in prison today for whatever reason were summarily released by big man obama via royal decree? You need to support your claim and clarify your conclusions.

"Relatively small and homogeneous European countries"??? 'Evil empires like China and Russia are more lenient on their citizenry that the United States of America..."the city upon the hill"

2009
Can Our Shameful Prisons Be Reformed?

David Cole
Georgetown University Law Center, [email protected]


With approximately 2.3 million people in prison or jail, the United States incarcerates more people than any other country in the world—by far. Our per capita rate is six times greater than Canada’s, eight times greater than France’s, and twelve times greater than Japan’s. Here, at least, we are an undisputed world leader; we have a 40 percent lead on
our closest competitors—Russia and Belarus.

Until 1975, the United States’ criminal justice system was roughly in line with much of Europe’s. For fifty years preceding 1975, the US incarceration rate consistently hovered around 100 inmates per 100,000; criminologists made careers out of theorizing that the incarceration rate would never change. Around 1975, however, they were proved wrong, as the United States became radically more punitive. In thirty-five years, the incarceration rate ballooned to over 700 per 100,000, far outstripping all other countries.

This growth is not attributable to increased offending rates, but to increased punitiveness. Being “tough on crime” became a political mandate. State and federal legislatures imposed mandatory minimum sentences; abolished or radically restricted parole; and adopted “three strikes” laws that exact life imprisonment for a third offense, even when the offense is as minor as stealing a slice of pizza. Comparing the ratio of convictions to “index crimes” such as murder, rape, and burglary 3 between 1975 and 1999 reveals that, holding crime constant, the United States became five times more punitive. Harvard sociologist Bruce Western estimates that the increase in incarceration rates since 1975 can take credit for only about 10 percent of the drop in crime over the same period.

Much of the extraordinary growth in the prison and jail population is attributable to a dramatic increase in prosecution and imprisonment for drug offenses. 5 President Reagan declared a “war on drugs” in 1982, and the states eagerly followed suit. From 1980 to 1997, Loury tells us, the number of people incarcerated for drug offenses increased by 1,100 percent. Drug convictions alone account for more than 80 percent of the total increase in the federal prison population from 1985 to 1995.

In 2008, four of five drug arrests were for possession, and only one in five was for distribution; fully half of all drug arrests were for marijuana offenses.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But keep supporting BIG government intervention into American's lives...it IS who you right wingers REALLY are...you are not for less government, you are just for less Democrats running it...

 

[Unkotare]

Don't hurt yourself dodging like that.

 

[daveman]

Well there is the epitome of how the conservative mind works...

SUDDENLY, in the early 1970's, there was a drastic change in human nature...WOW!

You are a fucking genius...Sigmund Freud move over!!!

You right wing turds are not 'tough on crime'. You are tough on freedom and liberty.

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
Edmund Burke

Ahh, yes, the ol' "It's society's fault!!" argument, popular among those who feel that minorities aren't capable of making their own decisions.

Are you really THAT obtuse? Seriously? Please tell me again how you used to be a Democrat? Did you have a lobotomy?

THINK about it turd brain...

In 1975, the rate of incarceration in the U.S. was 100 per 100,000 people, a rate that hadn't fluctuated much in the previous half century. And even after 1975, though the incarceration rate slowly climbed to its present-day 700 per 100,000. Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously; the United States simply grew more punitive.

You right wing bastards have NO comprehension of freedom and liberty. If farting became a crime, you mindless statists would call for the death penalty. There is ZERO contemplation inside your tiny little pea.

My goodness, you're an emotional little thing, aren't you?

Yeah, it looks like it never occurred to you. But then, leftists always have an excuse for their protected classes. And you simply can't comprehend the idea of personal responsibility.

 

[Full-Auto]

Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good. Look at the Bush tax cuts. Obama nor the Democrats wanted them extended. Republicans held millions of unemployed hostage threatening to cut off their unemployment and leave them destitute. Republicans don't care about regular Americans, that much is plain. Look at you.

Now try to argue with that fact even after the conservative Christian Science Monitor called Republicans out on their hostage taking. Of course, you will call it a lie. You maybe will even convince yourself that it couldn't be true. But deep down you know it is. That's why you are in such denial.

Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. The fact you only wish to call it one way more then proves you classify as a useful idiot. Why did they need more unemployment when the stimulus had all of that covered.

Because you lying POSs were all about crony payoffs. There is a wealth of that from this admin, but its the repubs. Stupid is as stupid does. Mini stimulus 2 Buying votes at the local governments one at a time.

40% of the stimulus was Republican tax cuts. Tax cuts don't mean squat if you don't have a job.

Who even knows what you're talking about? Or about 90% of the right wing for that matter.

Always the lying little shit.

Dufus how many repubs voted for those cuts?

 

[daveman]

well go ahead Gordo....tell us how the Cops in Costa Rica are just the greatest Cops anywhere and they just dont lose it....

As long as he keeps the poop cleaned off the streets, they leave him alone.

i bet he doesnt talk down there like he does on line here also.....the Pussy....

He's an internet tough guy.

 

[daveman]

Ahh, yes, the ol' "It's society's fault!!" argument, popular among those who feel that minorities aren't capable of making their own decisions.

Are you really THAT obtuse? Seriously? Please tell me again how you used to be a Democrat? Did you have a lobotomy?

THINK about it turd brain...

In 1975, the rate of incarceration in the U.S. was 100 per 100,000 people, a rate that hadn't fluctuated much in the previous half century. And even after 1975, though the incarceration rate slowly climbed to its present-day 700 per 100,000. Americans did not commit crimes at any higher rate than previously; the United States simply grew more punitive.

You right wing bastards have NO comprehension of freedom and liberty. If farting became a crime, you mindless statists would call for the death penalty. There is ZERO contemplation inside your tiny little pea.

And you want to know what caused the sudden spike in crime in the 1980's and 90's?

Two simple words, the invention of the "crack rock".

Hard drugs fuck peoples minds, addicts them, causes them to steal, rape, do dumb illegal shit. Crack cocaine was the 1st. Heroine. Acid. Speed. And on the list goes.

But crack in the 80's is what fueled the spike in prison numbers.

Dont agree? Do the research. You'll find the truth.

He doesn't want the truth, because it points out that people are responsible for their own actions.

He wants to blame Republicans for the prison population, not convicted criminals.

And leftists wonder why people say they're soft on crime...

 

[daveman]

I didn't see where you provided proof of this.


Are you trying to say we are better at identifying and punishing crime? That tougher sentencing has led to declining crime rates? That most of the people in prison are really innocent and it's all a big government conspiracy? That we should choose from a rotating selection of relatively small and homogeneous European countries and only imprison exactly as many people as that country does at any given time regardless of crimes committed here? Would we have more *insert weeping and dramatic soundtrack here* freedom and liberty if most of the people in prison today for whatever reason were summarily released by big man obama via royal decree? You need to support your claim and clarify your conclusions.

Well put,


The rise of hard drugs, in particular crack in the 80's, fueled the increase in criminal behavior, while at the same time cops began getting new technology like more cameras, internet, etc, etc, to fight crime. Thus, more ability to catch criminals. Of course prison numbers would grow.

Plus, thanks to liberal sentencing and paroles, criminals aren't scared of going back. Repeat offenders are so common.

So you agree: Crack smoking police fueled the increase in criminal behavior. When the police department needs crack they harass and collect from some innocent person to either gain money to buy their crack or crack down on the drug dealer whom they can steal their crack from....ect ... to fight crime....of course the more crack heads the police departments hires the more innocents are sent to jail.

Plus, thanks to all these crack head police officers on the street....police officers think they are above the law and can sent innocents to prison while they smoke crack, keep their job, until they get caught and are sent away to prison for a very long time.

Despite what you may think about your police department....OWS is bringing them down.
And they are going down so fast they can't keep up.

By 2013 there is going to more police officers occupying jails and prisons than any other profession in america!!

 

[daveman]

It seems many/most on the left only care about cops when screaming about needing more spending, they need one, and when the union dues are due.

That is not true. Just because someone has a leftiest point of view doesn't mean they don't pay their taxes and deserve the same respect from police as elite white folk have.

Shut up you Nazi racist moron.

Did you know that calling people "Nazi" and "racist" doesn't silence them nearly as effectively as facts and logic?

No, it doesn't look like you do.