Gabby Giffords Asks, ‘Is it Safe To Send Our Kids To School?’

[jc456]

No it is not safe to send kids to school if Democrats are loose.

EXACTLY ^^^^^^

 

[Skull Pilot]

And only 1% of all murders occur in mass shooting events.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent them

Banning the AR won't prevent them

Then explain why all of these massacres used AR15.

Because it happens to be the most popular rifle frame in the country. The fact that there are millions of AR style rifles owned by the public and that less than 2% of all murders are committed with them should tell you that it's not the rifle that's the problem.

Can you explain why most cars have the most popular size tire?

Size of a tire has nothing to do with murdering or massacres.

The 17 people that was just slaughtered is part of that 2%. Is that acceptable?

Neither does the weapon used.

That the most popular rifle in the US is used in crimes is not surprising.

So you ban it then what? Then the second most popular weapon will be used in crimes.

So you ban that then what? Then the third most popular weapon will be used in crimes

 

[Lakhota]

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent them

Banning the AR won't prevent them

Then explain why all of these massacres used AR15.

Because it happens to be the most popular rifle frame in the country. The fact that there are millions of AR style rifles owned by the public and that less than 2% of all murders are committed with them should tell you that it's not the rifle that's the problem.

Can you explain why most cars have the most popular size tire?

Size of a tire has nothing to do with murdering or massacres.

The 17 people that was just slaughtered is part of that 2%. Is that acceptable?

Neither does the weapon used.

That the most popular rifle in the US is used in crimes is not surprising.

So you ban it then what? Then the second most popular weapon will be used in crimes.

So you ban that then what? Then the third most popular weapon will be used in crimes

Then, maybe we can work our way down to a single-shot. Wouldn't that be great.

 

[Darkwind]

There are approximately 74 million students in the US in the range of Pre-K through 12th grade. How many students were killed by guns in all of 2017? 20? A search turns up a few articles and one Wikipedia article that lists 9 kids killed by guns in all of 2017.

School shootings in the United States - Wikipedia

9/74,000,000 * 100 = 1.22e-06 percent of the students in our country were killed by a gun. that is 0.0000122%.

Giffords is not only wrong but a lying piece of shit. Our children are in more danger from men pretending to be women in women's bathrooms.

This entire thread, not one person lamented the 104 people who have died on our nation's roads today. Or the 104 the day before that, or the day before that, or every day for the past 10 years.

Nine kids died of guns 2017. Is that acceptable?

Also I thought the number is far higher than 7.

http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/cirp-gun-safety

But the 104 death was road accident. Isn’t it?

A death is a death, road accident or otherwise. The outrage is people are being killed, but it is selective outrage because only certain types of death are the concern.

It isn't a matter of acceptable, it is a matter of; at what threshold do we start taking rights away from people who have not done a single thing wrong.

At that percentage, it is unreasonable to think that our children are being slaughtered, and our schools are unsafe. Schools may or may not be unsafe, but it isn't because of guns.

Let me get this straight.

You are telling me that people with mental illness can buy guns. Is that right?
Do you realize how easy it is to obtain AR15? Road accident is accident AR15 is made to kill people intentionally.

If you look at the previous several massacres AR15 is the favorites.

Explain this to me why killing 17 kids is acceptable.

who said it was acceptable? I'll thank you to stop putting words in ANYONES mouth but your own.

People are dying at a greater rate on our highways than in our schools. That is not a hard fact to get your head around.

The GUN is a tool, and its purpose is determined by the person using the tool. I have an AR15 and I can say with absolute confidence that it has never killed anyone, let along any kids in a school

Stop punishing the innocent for the deeds of the crazy. It is a simple concept.

You did not answer my questions.

Another question.........
What is your solution in stopping all these carnage using AR15?

People are dying in high ways....... That’s an accident. These massacres using AR15 are done purposely ...... Explain that.

May be you are a law abiding and stable citizens........ How about like these kids that can buy this gun so easily?

Please answer my questions.

1. The solution to stopping the carnage is to start instilling right and wrong in our children. A person who feels deep down in their soul that killing is wrong, won't do this kind of thing.

2. Once again. People dying on the highways ARE DYING. You are trying to use some form of sophistry that their deaths are somehow less horrifying than those who were killed by a gun. I'll not explain that again.

3. They don't get these guns easily. They have to go through a number of checks to get these guns. The guy was 19 years old. That means he is a legal adult and enjoys the rights that all adults enjoy.

Last, any solution that punishes the innocent, law-abiding citizen, for the actions of others, is just plain wrong. This is another example of societal decay that something that fundamental needs to be explained.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Then explain why these massacres used AR15.

I think that the answer is obvious. Ever since the “assault weapon” hoax began more than twenty years ago, the AR-15 has been very heavily and widely hyped by the hoplophobic left wrong as the defining example of an “assault weapon”, most ideal for carrying out mass shootings. In truth, there is a very wide range of other rifles on the market, any of which would be just as effective, if not more so, than an AR-15, and many of which have never even been classified as “assault weapons”. Someone who really knew about guns, who was planning a mass shooting,and wanted to pick the most effective gun for that purpose, would probably choose something different than an AR-15; perhaps something like the M1 Garand which is much more easily and cheaply available and fires a much deadlier and more powerful round, but which doesn't have the cachet of being an “assault weapon”. If the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for crazed mass-shooters, then it is only because the left wrong has given it so much publicity as being allegedly suited for that use.

 

[2aguy]

Then explain why these massacres used AR15.

I think that the answer is obvious. Ever since the “assault weapon” hoax began more than twenty years ago, the AR-15 has been very heavily and widely hyped by the hoplophobic left wrong as the defining example of an “assault weapon”, most ideal for carrying out mass shootings. In truth, there is a very wide range of other rifles on the market, any of which would be just as effective, if not more so, than an AR-15, and many of which have never even been classified as “assault weapons”. Someone who really knew about guns, who was planning a mass shooting,and wanted to pick the most effective gun for that purpose, would probably choose something different than an AR-15; perhaps something like the M1 Garand which is much more easily and cheaply available and fires a much deadlier and more powerful round, but which doesn't have the cachet of being an “assault weapon”. If the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for crazed mass-shooters, then it is only because the left wrong has given it so much publicity as being allegedly suited for that use.

And...they will come for all of the other guns too....the AR-15 is low hanging fruit at the moment...and of course, if they ever do get it banned, the next shooter would use the next rifle, then that rifle would be the next weapon they would go after...and on and on, rinse and repeat....

 

[Flash]

I always find you Moon Bats to be confused, dishonest and ignorant. You are no exception.

You left out that the bill also included provisions to put more money into the NICS system and to greatly improve the reporting of the mentally ill into the background check system. That alone could have prevented the Texas church shooter from purchasing the weapon he used to murder.

Had the bill passed and had the FBI and the Parkland police did their job properly the Grassley Cruz provisions to report the mentally ill and to increase the criminal database between agencies could have possibly prevented this wacko from purchasing the murder weapon.

The Democrats, being their normal obnoxious assholes selves, didn't support the sensible Grassley Cruz bill because they were butthurt because the Republicans didn't pass that idiot Obama's universal background check.

The Democrats have the blood of the dead on their hands.

Wrong again.

That doesn’t stop the carnage using AR15. Dude Paddock passed all the requirements to obtain several AR15. That bill doesn’t meet the requirements of common sense gun laws.

Mental illness are the hardest to diagnosed and people can easily fake it. Or unless someone else will report it.

Background checks when this dude 2aguy here keep telling me background checks doesn’t work.
How about loopholes at gun shows like in Texas?
Then you have this lousy president with his EO allowing people with mental illness can buy guns...... THIS IS SUPPORTED BY NRA.

Tell me again about bill supported by NRA.

I can assure you 100% there are lots of GOPs support banning AR15 but they can’t do it because ALL of them are NRA puppets. Just like my buddy Rubio. So you cannot sit there and tell me that only the Democrats are trying to stop these massacres.

What is your suggestion in stopping this carnage?

You are really confused about this aren't you Moon Bat?

2nd aguy is right. Background checks are absolutely worthless but you stupid Liberals don't think so, do you? Despite tremendous evidence to the contrary these dimwits think that a crook will be stopped by filling out a perice of paper.

So the question to you stupid Moon Bats is if you morons really think that background checks will stop crime then why did the Democrats vote against the Grassley Cruz bill that not only had provisions to strengthen the NICS but to improve the reporting of the mentally ill? Do you believe in background checks are not? You can't have it both ways.

Was it because the bill also included being able to carry a legal firearms while traveling through another state without being arrested? Was it because the filthy ass Democrats were butt hurt because the Republicans didn't pass that idiotic Obama plan to have universal background checks? Was it all or nothing with those bozos?

We will never know if the Democrats had pulled their head out of their Libtard asses and done the right thing and passed Grassley Cruz if it would have prevented these lunatics from purchasing the guns. However, we do know that because the Democrats did not support the bill it didn't passed and several mass shootings occurred by people with a history of mental problems that the bill was crafted to address.

How come when we scratch the surface of any problem we always find out that the Liberals are usually the cause of the problem? . Every fucking time, isn't it?

I would give you two Winner tabs...but we can only give one.....

It always amazes me how confused these stupid Moon Bats are about everything.

I am really glad that Crooked Hillary demonized the NRA and proposed taking away the right to keep and bear arms. It caused her along with some of her other stupidity to lose the election.

Trump's strong endorsement by the NRA got him a lot of votes that weak Republican candidates like Romney and McCain didn't get.

So......... You are telling me that Trump is part of these problem?

We have a problem.......... kids are massacred and people like you seems to just don’t care.

Hillary never said she will take your gun away. She never said that. Only Trump said that. Crooked...... really. Trump doesn’t even show how or where he gets his income hiding his tax returns. Hillary showed transparency and never been charge or indicted.

I didn't vote for Trump so I don't have to defend him.

Bullshit about Crooked Hillary. The vile bitch is as anti right to keep and bear arms as any politician in the country. If you believed her when she said she didn't want to take away firearms then you are being deceived just like you were with her other lies and the lies of Slick Willy. Let me guess, you are one of these dumbshits that voted for her to be President? Am I right or am I right? How could you be so naive and stupid? Do you have a pink pussy hat? Have you been known to howl at the sky?

You have to remember that the agenda of the filthy ass Liberals in this country is to do away with the right to keep and bear arms because it is a direct threat to their agenda to make this country a socialist shithole.

What the Liberals call reasonable or sensible are never either reasonable or sensible.

I know 2ndAguy and other have been trying to tell you to pull your head out of your Libtard ass but let me give you an example.

In Commie New York they passed the filthy SAFE Act as being "sensible" gun control.

Two weeks later a decorated veteran was arrested for having two unloaded AR-15 standard capacity magazines in trunk. No gun, no ammo just two of the magazines that are legal almost every place else in the US. I have hundreds of them. There are tens of million if not over a hundred million in this country.

Another veteran had his guns confiscated by the jackbooted police in New York under the SAFE Act because he went to see his doctor for a mild case of insomnia.

Then there was that lady that was just passing through New York on the way to another state and the goddamn New York police threw her in jail for having a legal pistol in the car. She was traveling with her child and wanted a little protection. How oppressive is that?

Liberals are never reasonable when it comes to anything but gun control is on the top of that list. You simply can't trust Liberals. The Republicans couldn't even compromise with the filthy Democrats to strengthened the mentally ill reporting requirements so that is a great example.

 

[Flash]

When these Moon Bats tell you that they really aren't against the right to keep and bear arms as long as you do what they think is "sensible" then they are lying to you. There agenda is to take away the right to keep and bear arms.

From the New York Times. The Bible of the Liberals.

To Repeat: REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT

 

[P@triot]

Well...it's like everything else. If we reject failed, idiotic left-wing policy, then yes - it would be safe to send our children to school. Like it is in this Texas school...

Students in West Texas school district ‘feel safe’ at school — the reason why will prevent shooting

 

[Flash]

Above is the filthy Libtard New York Times advocating doing away with the right to keep and bear arms.

Here is the LA Times doing the same damn thing.

I repeat, when the Moon Bats say their agenda is only "sensible" gun laws then they are flat out lying to you.

Never, never trust a Liberals. If their mouth is open then they are lying to you.

Americans deserve to lose their 2nd Amendment right to bear arms

Americans deserve to lose their 2nd Amendment right to bear arms

 

[skye]

If you have an FBI who dropped the ball on Parkland shooter, an FBI who doesn't give a shit really.....

then sure

it's not safe to send your kids to school.

 

[Lakhota]

Missouri Third-Graders Selling AR-15 Raffle Tickets For Their Baseball Team

The fundraiser is going ahead despite mounting controversy.

Holy shit...

 

[Rustic]

Missouri Third-Graders Selling AR-15 Raffle Tickets For Their Baseball Team

The fundraiser is going ahead despite mounting controversy.

Holy shit...

 

[Skull Pilot]

Banning the AR won't prevent them

Then explain why all of these massacres used AR15.

Because it happens to be the most popular rifle frame in the country. The fact that there are millions of AR style rifles owned by the public and that less than 2% of all murders are committed with them should tell you that it's not the rifle that's the problem.

Can you explain why most cars have the most popular size tire?

Size of a tire has nothing to do with murdering or massacres.

The 17 people that was just slaughtered is part of that 2%. Is that acceptable?

Neither does the weapon used.

That the most popular rifle in the US is used in crimes is not surprising.

So you ban it then what? Then the second most popular weapon will be used in crimes.

So you ban that then what? Then the third most popular weapon will be used in crimes

Then, maybe we can work our way down to a single-shot. Wouldn't that be great.

No

 

[2aguy]

Missouri Third-Graders Selling AR-15 Raffle Tickets For Their Baseball Team

The fundraiser is going ahead despite mounting controversy.

Holy shit...

The only controversy is made up by emotional, uninformed left wingers....

There are over 8 million AR-15, self defense rifles in private hands in this country.......and millions more rifles of other styles aas well........

1 was used this week illegally.........8 million others were not.....

Cars kill over 35,000 people a year.....yet when we have a car raffle the local church no one cares....

It isn't the dead people you care about...you just hate guns.

 

[basquebromance]

FOX viewers are tweeting rage-filled insults (attached to a Fox tweet) at the kids who survived the Florida slaughter for saying change is needed. This shows how easily propaganda subsumes humanity. Kids who saw their dead friends, in Fox world, are supposed to shut up

 

[2aguy]

FOX viewers are tweeting rage-filled insults (attached to a Fox tweet) at the kids who survived the Florida slaughter for saying change is needed. This shows how easily propaganda subsumes humanity. Kids who saw their dead friends, in Fox world, are supposed to shut up

No...but they don't understand the actual issues and are being used by left wing anti gunners as props.

 

[Flash]

Missouri Third-Graders Selling AR-15 Raffle Tickets For Their Baseball Team

The fundraiser is going ahead despite mounting controversy.

Holy shit...

Good! I would buy one. I could always use another AR.

A lot better than those children of Moon Bats that going around collecting money for UNICEF or some silly shit like that.

 

[charwin95]

I regularly debate with Trump voters outside this sites but most are very poorly informed.

I am familiar with Grassley/Cruz bill and it’s not good enough.
It only encourage to sell more guns that is why it’s supported by NRA. That alone will tell you something is wrong.



Sens. Grassley and Cruz roll out alternative gun control bill


The National Rifle Association said it supports the bill.

The bill includes provisions making it easier to purchase and transport firearms across state lines.

The bill would allow for the interstate sale of firearms, and for the interstate transportation of firearms providing certain conditions are met. Guns transported across state lines will have to be unloaded, locked in a vehicle or kept in the trunk.

Another pro-gun provision of the bill will allow military members to buy guns in the states where they're stationed.

Grassley said the bill was the result of "the combined efforts of many members of the Senate," and called it "a sensible alternative" to Democratic gun control reform efforts that "addresses problems we've seen without burdening law

I always find you Moon Bats to be confused, dishonest and ignorant. You are no exception.

You left out that the bill also included provisions to put more money into the NICS system and to greatly improve the reporting of the mentally ill into the background check system. That alone could have prevented the Texas church shooter from purchasing the weapon he used to murder.

Had the bill passed and had the FBI and the Parkland police did their job properly the Grassley Cruz provisions to report the mentally ill and to increase the criminal database between agencies could have possibly prevented this wacko from purchasing the murder weapon.

The Democrats, being their normal obnoxious assholes selves, didn't support the sensible Grassley Cruz bill because they were butthurt because the Republicans didn't pass that idiot Obama's universal background check.

The Democrats have the blood of the dead on their hands.

Wrong again.

That doesn’t stop the carnage using AR15. Dude Paddock passed all the requirements to obtain several AR15. That bill doesn’t meet the requirements of common sense gun laws.

Mental illness are the hardest to diagnosed and people can easily fake it. Or unless someone else will report it.

Background checks when this dude 2aguy here keep telling me background checks doesn’t work.
How about loopholes at gun shows like in Texas?
Then you have this lousy president with his EO allowing people with mental illness can buy guns...... THIS IS SUPPORTED BY NRA.

Tell me again about bill supported by NRA.

I can assure you 100% there are lots of GOPs support banning AR15 but they can’t do it because ALL of them are NRA puppets. Just like my buddy Rubio. So you cannot sit there and tell me that only the Democrats are trying to stop these massacres.

What is your suggestion in stopping this carnage?

You are really confused about this aren't you Moon Bat?

2nd aguy is right. Background checks are absolutely worthless but you stupid Liberals don't think so, do you? Despite tremendous evidence to the contrary you dimwits think that a crook will be stopped by filling out a piece of paper.

So the question to you stupid Moon Bats is if you morons really think that background checks will stop crime then why did the Democrats vote against the Grassley Cruz bill that not only had provisions to strengthen the NICS but to improve the reporting of the mentally ill? Do you believe in background checks or not? You can't have it both ways.

Was it because the bill also included being able to carry a legal firearms while traveling through another state without being arrested? Was it because the filthy ass Democrats were butt hurt because the Republicans didn't pass that idiotic Obama plan to have universal background checks? Was it all or nothing with those bozos?

We will never know if the Democrats had pulled their head out of their Libtard asses and done the right thing and passed Grassley Cruz if it would have prevented these lunatics from purchasing the guns. However, we do know that because the Democrats did not support the bill it didn't passed and several mass shootings occurred by people with a history of mental problems that the bill was crafted to address.

How come when we scratch the surface of any problem we always find out that the Liberals are usually the cause of the problem? . Every fucking time, isn't it?

I have not called you STUPID yet. I know you are trying to be tough because you have a big gun. Am I right? There’s no sense of keeping this conversation if you keep this up and I don’t want to waste my time with thuggery conversation. Got that?


That said....... Explain all these massacres using AR15. Don’t blame me....... I have not done anything..... All I want is to stop these massacres.
I’m not confused....... I support background checks because I know it works.

Let me repeat it again. Grassley/Cruz does not support common sense gun laws.

I asked you an honest question. Please answer my question.

You are really confused about this, aren't you?

I don't have to explain what crazy people do. Go ask them.

What I can explain to any stupid Moon Bat is that the tremendous majority of the gun crimea in this country is done with cheap hand guns among the minority and drug population in Democrat controlled shithole cities with stringent gun control laws. I can also explain to them that background checks are useless and that there is a Bill of Rights that guarantee that Americans have the right to keep and bear arms.

There are tens of millions AR-15s and other semi auto firearms in this country that are not used in crime. In fact statically (according to the FBI) they account for only a small percentage of firearms deaths. It is statistically insignificant compared to all the other ways in our society where you can die, like just having a swimming pool or a Liberal mother calling up Uber to take her to an abortion clinic.

What the stupid Moon Bats can't explain to me is why, as a law abiding responsible gun owner, why should I have my right to keep and bear arms taken away because some nutcase decides to do something illegal.

As a NRA Certified Firearms Instructor and NRA Certified Range officer I have been involved with responsible gun ownership for thousands of people over the years. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world, by the way.

We don't need any new gun control laws. What we need are people to take responsibly for their actions and to stop blaming innate objects for the actions of crazy people, A little additional security at soft targets wouldn't hurt either.

Moon Bats aren't big on the concept of personal responsibility, are they?

Okay. Here we go.
It’s been explained to you many times but you are so STUPID to admit it. I understand you have big guns that is why you talk so tough.

1. Yes there are responsible gun owners but there are also gun nuts lunatics gun owners that you tend to ignore because you are ignorant..... if I’m wrong then explain all these massacres why it’s happening more often.

2. I NEVER said you cannot bear arms. I NEVER said Im taking your guns away. NOBODY said that............... But you are a such sissy and paranoid....... I’m only talking how the hell its so easy to buy guns especially kids and all these massacres.
Right now it’s so crazy that AR15 is being raffled at baseball games.

3. True there are millions of these AR15 in US. And it’s only a very small percentage of AR15 being used.............. Is killing 17 in parkland and 58 in Vegas using AR15 acceptable?

4. Yes background checks I guarantee you 100% it works.......... Because people with criminal records cannot buy legally.

5. Yes we need more gun laws like shutting down those loopholes at gun shows and private sellers. Like common sense gun laws. Make it harder for kids and mentally disturbed individual impossible to buy guns legally. Right now we even have this lousy president EO for mental patients able to buy guns.

6. Swimming pools, mother to abortion etc etc etc........ Those has nothing to do with massacres using AR15. Dude you are confused.

7. Democrats control cities. Really? Parkland was listed as one of the safest cities before the massacres.

8. Additional security. Parkland has armed security guards.

Try again.

 

[2aguy]

I always find you Moon Bats to be confused, dishonest and ignorant. You are no exception.

You left out that the bill also included provisions to put more money into the NICS system and to greatly improve the reporting of the mentally ill into the background check system. That alone could have prevented the Texas church shooter from purchasing the weapon he used to murder.

Had the bill passed and had the FBI and the Parkland police did their job properly the Grassley Cruz provisions to report the mentally ill and to increase the criminal database between agencies could have possibly prevented this wacko from purchasing the murder weapon.

The Democrats, being their normal obnoxious assholes selves, didn't support the sensible Grassley Cruz bill because they were butthurt because the Republicans didn't pass that idiot Obama's universal background check.

The Democrats have the blood of the dead on their hands.

Wrong again.

That doesn’t stop the carnage using AR15. Dude Paddock passed all the requirements to obtain several AR15. That bill doesn’t meet the requirements of common sense gun laws.

Mental illness are the hardest to diagnosed and people can easily fake it. Or unless someone else will report it.

Background checks when this dude 2aguy here keep telling me background checks doesn’t work.
How about loopholes at gun shows like in Texas?
Then you have this lousy president with his EO allowing people with mental illness can buy guns...... THIS IS SUPPORTED BY NRA.

Tell me again about bill supported by NRA.

I can assure you 100% there are lots of GOPs support banning AR15 but they can’t do it because ALL of them are NRA puppets. Just like my buddy Rubio. So you cannot sit there and tell me that only the Democrats are trying to stop these massacres.

What is your suggestion in stopping this carnage?

You are really confused about this aren't you Moon Bat?

2nd aguy is right. Background checks are absolutely worthless but you stupid Liberals don't think so, do you? Despite tremendous evidence to the contrary you dimwits think that a crook will be stopped by filling out a piece of paper.

So the question to you stupid Moon Bats is if you morons really think that background checks will stop crime then why did the Democrats vote against the Grassley Cruz bill that not only had provisions to strengthen the NICS but to improve the reporting of the mentally ill? Do you believe in background checks or not? You can't have it both ways.

Was it because the bill also included being able to carry a legal firearms while traveling through another state without being arrested? Was it because the filthy ass Democrats were butt hurt because the Republicans didn't pass that idiotic Obama plan to have universal background checks? Was it all or nothing with those bozos?

We will never know if the Democrats had pulled their head out of their Libtard asses and done the right thing and passed Grassley Cruz if it would have prevented these lunatics from purchasing the guns. However, we do know that because the Democrats did not support the bill it didn't passed and several mass shootings occurred by people with a history of mental problems that the bill was crafted to address.

How come when we scratch the surface of any problem we always find out that the Liberals are usually the cause of the problem? . Every fucking time, isn't it?

I have not called you STUPID yet. I know you are trying to be tough because you have a big gun. Am I right? There’s no sense of keeping this conversation if you keep this up and I don’t want to waste my time with thuggery conversation. Got that?


That said....... Explain all these massacres using AR15. Don’t blame me....... I have not done anything..... All I want is to stop these massacres.
I’m not confused....... I support background checks because I know it works.

Let me repeat it again. Grassley/Cruz does not support common sense gun laws.

I asked you an honest question. Please answer my question.

You are really confused about this, aren't you?

I don't have to explain what crazy people do. Go ask them.

What I can explain to any stupid Moon Bat is that the tremendous majority of the gun crimea in this country is done with cheap hand guns among the minority and drug population in Democrat controlled shithole cities with stringent gun control laws. I can also explain to them that background checks are useless and that there is a Bill of Rights that guarantee that Americans have the right to keep and bear arms.

There are tens of millions AR-15s and other semi auto firearms in this country that are not used in crime. In fact statically (according to the FBI) they account for only a small percentage of firearms deaths. It is statistically insignificant compared to all the other ways in our society where you can die, like just having a swimming pool or a Liberal mother calling up Uber to take her to an abortion clinic.

What the stupid Moon Bats can't explain to me is why, as a law abiding responsible gun owner, why should I have my right to keep and bear arms taken away because some nutcase decides to do something illegal.

As a NRA Certified Firearms Instructor and NRA Certified Range officer I have been involved with responsible gun ownership for thousands of people over the years. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world, by the way.

We don't need any new gun control laws. What we need are people to take responsibly for their actions and to stop blaming innate objects for the actions of crazy people, A little additional security at soft targets wouldn't hurt either.

Moon Bats aren't big on the concept of personal responsibility, are they?

Okay. Here we go.
It’s been explained to you many times but you are so STUPID to admit it. I understand you have big guns that is why you talk so tough.

1. Yes there are responsible gun owners but there are also gun nuts lunatics gun owners that you tend to ignore because you are ignorant..... if I’m wrong then explain all these massacres why it’s happening more often.

2. I NEVER said you cannot bear arms. I NEVER said Im taking your guns away. NOBODY said that............... But you are a such sissy and paranoid....... I’m only talking how the hell its so easy to buy guns especially kids and all these massacres.
Right now it’s so crazy that AR15 is being raffled at baseball games.

3. True there are millions of these AR15 in US. And it’s only a very small percentage of AR15 being used.............. Is killing 17 in parkland and 58 in Vegas using AR15 acceptable?

4. Yes background checks I guarantee you 100% it works.......... Because people with criminal records cannot buy legally.

5. Yes we need more gun laws like shutting down those loopholes at gun shows and private sellers. Like common sense gun laws. Make it harder for kids and mentally disturbed individual impossible to buy guns legally. Right now we even have this lousy president EO for mental patients able to buy guns.

6. Swimming pools, mother to abortion etc etc etc........ Those has nothing to do with massacres using AR15. Dude you are confused.

7. Democrats control cities. Really? Parkland was listed as one of the safest cities before the massacres.

8. Additional security. Parkland has armed security guards.

Try again.

And not one thing you posted is based in reality.

Background checks do not work, there is no gun show loophole and the fact that cars, pools and plastic bags kill more children each and every year than all mass shooters in 35 years is an important fact.....guns are not a problem the AR-15 is not a problem........cops and the FBI falling down time after time with these shooters is the problem...

You lied on most of those points, left out details that show your points are silly......so, this is why we don't trust you anti gunners....