Full video of Frederica Wilson's 2015 FBI speech shows John Kelly got it wrong

[JoeB131]

Funny how McCain never said anything about Clinton, who protested the war from Europe, or Obama - the guy who never served, won the Nobel Peace Prize, dragged the country into 2 Un-Constotutional / Un-Approved wars, aided terrorists, honored a deserting traitor as a hero, and left Americans to die at the hands of the terrorists he helped take over their own country.

Actually, McCain criticized both of them a lot. (Hey, you remember the 2008 campaign, right. McCain said a lot of things about Obama). The thing is, those guys weren't so thin skinned they got into a pissing contest with a war hero.

 

[easyt65]

Hey, you remember the 2008 campaign, right. McCain said a lot of things about Obama. The thing is, those guys weren't so thin skinned they got into a pissing contest with a war hero.

McCain was / is not a DEAD US soldier

 

[JoeB131]

McCain was / is not a DEAD US soldier

Whatever, dude, you are getting off the point. YOu claimed McCain never criticized Clinton or Obama. He did. Bush, too, for that matter.

Trump is the only one throwing the tantrum. The rest just realized that's part of the job.

 

[easyt65]

Whatever, dude, you are getting off the point. YOu claimed McCain never criticized Clinton or Obama. He did. Bush, too, for that matter.

WHEN DID I CLAIM McCAIN NEVER CRITICIZED OBAMA?

I think you are confusing me with someone else...or just making shit up.

McCain has nothing to do with the fact that despicable Democraps are using a dead US soldier and his family to launch a very public political attack on Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

McCain has nothing to do with the fact that despicable Democraps are using a dead US soldier and his family to launch a very public political attack on Trump.

Gee, you mean like how you guys used dead people in Benghazi to launch a very public political attack on Obama and Clinton? Or for that matter, how Democrats used Cindy Sheehan to attack Bush. (See, being fair and balanced here.)

Here's the thing. Unlike Obama with Benghazi or Bush with Cindy Sheehan, Trump is the guy who is making this situation worse by his actions. Someone criticizes him - rightly or wrongly, that's part of the job - and he attacks the family, the congressman, past presidents and the press.

In short, he's really too thin-skinned for the job.

 

[easyt65]

Gee, you mean like how you guys used dead people in Benghazi to launch a very public political attack on Obama and Clinton?

Dude, Obama dragged the US into an Un-Constitutional and Un-Approved war in Libya to help the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01 and who murdered 4 more on 9/11/12 overthrow and kill a dictator who was HELPING THE COALITION fight terrorists - like Al Qaeda - in Northern Africa, to take over their own nation.

Obama and Hillary ignored a call for the US ambassador's assassination, ignored a legitimate threat for a large-scale attack on the US compound on 9/11/12, ignored 2 terrorist attacks on the compound, ignored the fact that every other nation pulled their people out and refused to pull the Americans out, ignored over 50 pleas by the US Ambassador for more security, TOOK AWAY members of his security team - weakening the defenses - AFTER the 2 terrorist attacks and before the final attack on 9/11/12, AND had hired an Al Qaeda-associated militia to protect Americans from AL QAEDA!

Obama and Hillary all but handed Americans and the Ambassador over to Al Qaeda on a silver f*ing platter. LIKE THE 4 SOLDIERS KILLED IN NIGER, OBAMA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF THE US AMBASSADOR AND 3 OTHER AMERICANS IN BENGHAZI.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say the BS you snowflakes are spinning about Trump equates to the GOP exposing how Hillary and Obama FACILITATED the murder of the 1st US Ambassador in over 30 years and 3 other Americans at the hands of terrorists?

REALLY?

 

[JimH52]

McCain was / is not a DEAD US soldier

Whatever, dude, you are getting off the point. YOu claimed McCain never criticized Clinton or Obama. He did. Bush, too, for that matter.

Trump is the only one throwing the tantrum. The rest just realized that's part of the job.

Trump is a nine year old in the body of 71 year old fat man.

 

[easyt65]

Trump is a nine year old in the body of 71 year old fat man.

And yet he beat the traitor / criminal, Hillary Clinton...

 

[JimH52]

Trump is a nine year old in the body of 71 year old fat man.

And yet he beat the traitor / criminal, Hillary Clinton...

Yes, Putin chose our president...

 

[easyt65]

Yes, Putin chose our president...

AGAIN, why do you snowflakes have to lie so much...especially in the face of actual evidence that proves you to be LIARS!

You have spent a YEAR attempting to find / manufacture evidence to support your lie WHILE ignoring the treason perpetrated by then FBI Director Mueller, 1st Cabinet Member in US history to be Censured then-US Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary of State Clinton, and President Barak Obama and their collusion with the Russians.

 

[JimH52]

Yes, Putin chose our president...

AGAIN, why do you snowflakes have to lie so much...especially in the face of actual evidence that proves you to be LIARS!

You have spent a YEAR attempting to find / manufacture evidence to support your lie WHILE ignoring the treason perpetrated by then FBI Director Mueller, 1st Cabinet Member in US history to be Censured then-US Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary of State Clinton, and President Barak Obama and their collusion with the Russians.

The Orange Clown still won't admit Putin spent millions to get him elected. The country is being taken over from within.

 

[JimH52]

Yes, Putin chose our president...

AGAIN, why do you snowflakes have to lie so much...especially in the face of actual evidence that proves you to be LIARS!

You have spent a YEAR attempting to find / manufacture evidence to support your lie WHILE ignoring the treason perpetrated by then FBI Director Mueller, 1st Cabinet Member in US history to be Censured then-US Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary of State Clinton, and President Barak Obama and their collusion with the Russians.

The Orange Clown still won't admit Putin spent millions to get him elected. The country is being taken over from within.

and Republicans sit on their hands and let it happen.

 

[easyt65]

The Orange Clown still won't admit Putin spent millions to get him elected. The country is being taken over from within .... and Republicans sit on their hands and let it happen.

Bwuhahaha...

So you are BLAMING REPOUBLICANS for ALLOWING Mueller, Holder, and Obama to cover up the wide-spread Russian Bribery / Extortion / Influence-Purchasing Scandal, for ALLOWING the Russians to BUY the Clintons for $145 Million and the large sum Vlad's KGB was paying Bubba for 'speeches', and for ALLOWING them ALL to betray this country by helping the Russians acquire 20% of the US supply for Uranium...for ALLOWING Hillary to put herself in position (due to her greed and vanity) to be victimized by Russian spies....



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[JoeB131]

Dude, Obama dragged the US into an Un-Constitutional and Un-Approved war in Libya to help the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01 and who murdered 4 more on 9/11/12 overthrow and kill a dictator who was HELPING THE COALITION fight terrorists - like Al Qaeda - in Northern Africa, to take over their own nation.

did you just forget about all the Americans Qadafi killed in the 1980's by sponsoring terrorists? Or is he a nice terrorist now because Obama took him out?

Obama and Hillary ignored a call for the US ambassador's assassination, ignored a legitimate threat for a large-scale attack on the US compound on 9/11/12, ignored 2 terrorist attacks on the compound, ignored the fact that every other nation pulled their people out and refused to pull the Americans out, ignored over 50 pleas by the US Ambassador for more security, TOOK AWAY members of his security team - weakening the defenses - AFTER the 2 terrorist attacks and before the final attack on 9/11/12, AND had hired an Al Qaeda-associated militia to protect Americans from AL QAEDA!

Okay, but you see, that Ambassador chose to go to Benghazi (which is not where he was based out of) because he thought the Libyans loved him on a personal basis and wouldn't attack him.

I should also point out that Republicans trimmed $100 MM from State Department Security.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say the BS you snowflakes are spinning about Trump equates to the GOP exposing how Hillary and Obama FACILITATED the murder of the 1st US Ambassador in over 30 years and 3 other Americans at the hands of terrorists?

REALLY?

First, you haven't really done anything but spout conspiracy theories that were DEBUNKED by EIGHT investigations.

Second- and i want this to be really clear to you- whether or not the attacks are fair or not isn't the issue. (Although I think if you call a widow, you should have the common decency to remember the man's name.) It's how Trump is reacting to the criticism. While Obama and Bush reacted with decorum and decency to these sorts of things, Trump just comes off as kind of an unhinged asshole.

 

[JoeB131]

Bwuhahaha...

So you are BLAMING REPOUBLICANS for ALLOWING Mueller, Holder, and Obama to cover up the wide-spread Russian Bribery / Extortion / Influence-Purchasing Scandal, for ALLOWING the Russians to BUY the Clintons for $145 Million and the large sum Vlad's KGB was paying Bubba for 'speeches', and for ALLOWING them ALL to betray this country by helping the Russians acquire 20% of the US supply for Uranium...for ALLOWING Hillary to put herself in position (due to her greed and vanity) to be victimized by Russian spies....

Wow, guy, the level of denial and paranoia are amazing.

You guys bought a bag of shit named Trump. You could have beaten Hillary- legitimately - with Cruz, Rubio, Bush or any of the other guys you ran, but you went with the guy who appealed best to your anger.

 

[easyt65]

Dude, Obama dragged the US into an Un-Constitutional and Un-Approved war in Libya to help the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01 and who murdered 4 more on 9/11/12 overthrow and kill a dictator who was HELPING THE COALITION fight terrorists - like Al Qaeda - in Northern Africa, to take over their own nation.

did you just forget about all the Americans Qadafi killed in the 1980's by sponsoring terrorists? Or is he a nice terrorist now because Obama took him out?

Obama and Hillary ignored a call for the US ambassador's assassination, ignored a legitimate threat for a large-scale attack on the US compound on 9/11/12, ignored 2 terrorist attacks on the compound, ignored the fact that every other nation pulled their people out and refused to pull the Americans out, ignored over 50 pleas by the US Ambassador for more security, TOOK AWAY members of his security team - weakening the defenses - AFTER the 2 terrorist attacks and before the final attack on 9/11/12, AND had hired an Al Qaeda-associated militia to protect Americans from AL QAEDA!

Okay, but you see, that Ambassador chose to go to Benghazi (which is not where he was based out of) because he thought the Libyans loved him on a personal basis and wouldn't attack him.

I should also point out that Republicans trimmed $100 MM from State Department Security.

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say the BS you snowflakes are spinning about Trump equates to the GOP exposing how Hillary and Obama FACILITATED the murder of the 1st US Ambassador in over 30 years and 3 other Americans at the hands of terrorists?

REALLY?

First, you haven't really done anything but spout conspiracy theories that were DEBUNKED by EIGHT investigations.

Second- and i want this to be really clear to you- whether or not the attacks are fair or not isn't the issue. (Although I think if you call a widow, you should have the common decency to remember the man's name.) It's how Trump is reacting to the criticism. While Obama and Bush reacted with decorum and decency to these sorts of things, Trump just comes off as kind of an unhinged asshole.

Your continued, and LENGTHY, attempt to defend Barak Obama for violating the Constitution and Law by dragging the United States into an UN-Constitutional and UN-Approved war to HELP AL QAEDA - the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01 and another 4 on 9/11/12 - is beyond despicable!

What Qaddafi did in the 1980s was inexcusable, but he was HELPING THE COALITION FIGHT TERRORISTS IN NORTHERN AFRICA...and Barak Obama SIDED WITH THOSE TERRORISTS against Qadaffi, helped them murder him, and helped them take over their own safe haven.

You continue to LIE about how investigations 'debunked' the treasonous aid and actions of Hillary and Obama, about the incompetence and horrific decisions made that directly facilitated the NEEDLESS deaths of 4 Americans in Benghazi. You base your lies on the fact that NO DEMOCRAT WWAS CONVICTED / WAS FOUND 'GUILTY'.

It was NOT a criminal investigation. The Investigations were for FACT-FINDING to ensure such a horrific FAILURE never happened again.

What WAS revealed in these investigations were:
- Hillary Clinton herself ADMITTED her own IGNORANCE and INCOMPETENCE by claiming she did not know what was going on in HER State Department.

- Obama and Hillary were well aware of the FACT that Al Qaeda had called for the assassination of Ambassador Stevens for the drone strike assassination of a Benghazi-born Al Qaeda member a month earlier.

- Obama and Hillary were well aware of the FACT that there was a Middle East-wide call for violent TERRORIST ATTACKS on the anniversary of 9/11/01 on 9/11/12. There were 22 Embassies and compounds later attacked on 9/11/12, and ONLY the Benghazi compound attack was called 'the result of a protest' ... because Americans died there.)

- Obama and Hillary were well aware of the FACT that terrorist violence had escalated, that Al Qaeda flags were flying over govt buildings, and MORE terrorist camps had opened up in Benghazi.

- Obama and Hillary were well aware of the FACT that EVERY other nation had pulled their people out of Benghazi ... but Hillary and Obama refused to.

- The US compound was so UNDER-protected / supplied that Stevens had to ask the UK and other nations leabing Benghazi if the US compound could use THEIR anti-terrorist equipment (road barriers, etc) being left behind.

- An Al Qaeda-associated militia was hired to protect Americans from AL QAEDA

- Hillary and the State Department DENIED more than 50 requests by Ambassador Stevens for additional security members ... even after the SECOND terrorist attack on the compound and Stevens warning if there was a 3rd, more coordinated attack and he did not have the security he requested HE WOULD DIE...
--- Knowing this, that the compound was not able to be defended and Americans would die in a 3rd attack, Hillary / Obama not only refused to provide more security but TOOK EXISTING ECURITY TEAM MEMBERS AWAY...GUARANTEEING AMERICANS WOULD DIE IN A 3RD ATTACK.

- Hillary / Obama either did not bother to check, knowing an attack was coming on 9/11/12, if there were any resp0onse teams capable of responded if needed OR they did, knew none were available, and did not give a shit!

- Hillary Clinton, Obama, and the Obama administration LIED THEIR ASSES OFF about not knowing this was a terrorist attack and when
-- The lead State Dept team in Tripoli testified that they called the State Department AND SPOKE TO HILLARY telling her this was a terrorist attack
-- The CIA testified they wrote and submitted a report to the State Dept and the WH War Room informing them this WAS a terrorist attack. That report was modified 13 times - stripping every reference to 'terrorism' / 'terrorist attacks' from the report - before being released to the public.

- Hillary Clinton HERSELF wrote 2 e-mails claiming she / they KNEW this was a terrorist attack and that the video they claimed was responsible had NOTHING to do with it. These e-mails were sent to the Egyptian Ambassador and to her daughter. (Snowflakes have responded by claiming 'she didn't mean them'. Bwuhahaha...even though it has been proven that she was telling the truth...)

- Hillary Clinton, the f*ing ghoul, LAUGHED about all of Stevens' pleas for his life....pleas for additional security...claiming she thought they were just part of his 'sense of humor', how he was 'always making JOKES like that'. WTF?!

NONE of these FACTS were 'debunked'! They were PROVEN. The only thing snowflakes have been right on is that no f*ing loser democrat has ever been truly held accountable for helping to FACILITATE the murder of 4 Americans by Al Qaeda on 9/11/12. What they did was HORRBLY incompetent and despicable but was not 'criminal'....especially when Obama owned the Justice Department.

 

[JoeB131]

Your continued, and LENGTHY, attempt to defend Barak Obama for violating the Constitution and Law by dragging the United States into an UN-Constitutional and UN-Approved war to HELP AL QAEDA - the terrorists who slaughtered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01 and another 4 on 9/11/12 - is beyond despicable!

Except that the people we helped had nothing to do with the former and the latter is questionable.

Here's the thing, Qadafi was going down regardless of what we did. The UN, EU, NATO and the Arab League decided he had to go.

Regardless of whether the war was approved by Congress, the fact is that under the NATO Treaty, when our allies decided to go, we were obligated to assist.

You continue to LIE about how investigations 'debunked' the treasonous aid and actions of Hillary and Obama, about the incompetence and horrific decisions made that directly facilitated the NEEDLESS deaths of 4 Americans in Benghazi. You base your lies on the fact that NO DEMOCRAT WWAS CONVICTED / WAS FOUND 'GUILTY'.

No, it's based on the committee's own reports.

The rest of your post is blather and Im not wasting time on it.

 

[eddiew37]

Regarding a building named after two slain FBI agents, Trump's Chief of Staff John Kelly said that Frederica Wilson "focused in her speech that she 'got the money' for the building.

But the South Florida Sun-Sentinel just unearthed the 2015 Wilson video and found that Wilson said nothing about any money. Instead, she spoke about the approval of the fallen soldiers' names for the building.

Full video of Frederica Wilson's 2015 FBI speech shows John Kelly got it wrong

Other news outlets have similarly fact-checked Kelly's falsehood.

See the Miami Herald: Video of Frederica Wilson’s 2015 speech shows John Kelly was wrong

See the Washington Post: Video of 2015 event shows Gen. John Kelly misrepresented Rep. Frederica S. Wilson’s remarks

Let's analyze the video in this thread.


Rating the thread "funny" without disproving the fact-checks is allowed.

Blaming Hillary or Maxine Waters is ok if you feel uncomfortable admitting that Kelly lied. Yelling "fake news" without further discussion is also allowed for therapeutic purposes.

And I guess when you're a general or President there's no need to apologize

 

[easyt65]

Here's the thing, Qadafi was going down regardless of what we did. The UN, EU, NATO and the Arab League decided he had to go.

So that is your justification for Obama's Un-Constitutional, Un-approved war in which he helped Al Qaeda take over Libya...then leave Americans to die in Benghazi at their hands?!

 

[JoeB131]

So that is your justification for Obama's Un-Constitutional, Un-approved war in which he helped Al Qaeda take over Libya...then leave Americans to die in Benghazi at their hands?!

Guy, you can keep repeating that, but the fact is, NATO obligates us to be in that war. We already had this discussion related to Kosovo 20 years ago. Reaffirmed again when all the NATO allies had to chip in on Afghanistan.

But I can't get terribly worked up about two mercenaries and two state department officials who misjudged a situation.