BRAVO! Greg Kelly Airs Photos of All of the Jan. 6 Political Prisoners Still in Gulag without Trial (VIDEO)

You are asking for an OPINION, which will depend on whether one is a snowflake or conservative....in my opinion. I will say, however, that unlike domestic terrorists Antifa and BLM., the vast majority of the people who entered the Capitol walked around, walked through the halls, & some stole 'memorabilia' / 'trophies' to remind them f the day they 'stormed the Capitol in protest'.

No politician was injured - though you can / will most probably claim without proof that they would have been. AOC, who was not even there, was not 'raped'. :p

And the leftists who looted, defaced, burned, and destroyed private property / businesses, who assaulted and even murdered innocent people, and who affected BILLIONS of dollars in damage because a white policeman used excessive forced and killed George Floyd continue to display the utmost hypocrisy by continuing to defend / make excuses for a black pro-BLM policeman, who has a record of being reckless with his firearm, used poor judgement and excessive force by shooting blindly through a broken glass window, killing a white, unarmed, female veteran / US citizen.

George Floyd was murdered. This female was murdered. She was shot and killed by a police officer she never even saw, let alone threatened to kill (speculation, and not based on reality/truth).

If you want an answer to your question, one without bias, BS, and partisanship, one based on truth / fact, there is only 1 person who can give you that answer:

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Unfortunately for you, I hear she's dead.

Ok, let’s compare and contrast the protests in Portland and the Capital.

What happens if the protestors in Portland do everything they want? They invade the Federal Courthouse. Find some restricted files. Maybe destroy evidence needed in trials. Probably causing mistrials and all that. Damage to the fabric of the nation, nil. The bad boys who are on trial will do something else to get arrested and charged again. Most likely they’re drug dealers and they’re going to get killed if they get turned loose for losing the drugs they were responsible for.

What happens if the Protesters got what they wanted at the Capital? Well they were there to “stop the steal” weren’t they? So they at least delay the orderly transition of power as required by the Constitution. If enough of the elected officials are killed, they can’t hold that orderly transition until new ones are elected and all that right?

What do we call it when mobs of people rush into the government buildings and capture or kill people in other nations? Isn’t that the literal definition of a Coup d’etat?

Let’s see. Coup d'état - Wikipedia

It seems that is the literal definition of a Coup.

Now, I am not suggesting that everyone in the crowd would have strung up or murdered the elected officials. I am saying that it would have happened. Even if it was the intent of only five percent of the crowd, that would still see enough people killed to derail the orderly transition of power in this nation.

Now, do you see the difference yet? The Protesters can burn Portland to the ground, and nothing changes to this nation. The elected people are still in charge of the Government. The protesters can loot Portland to the studs in the walls, and nothing would change to the Nation as a whole.

If the Protesters in the Capital had been successful, we would now be in a Dictatorship. The country would be in a civil war. Millions would be dead, and not just the Leftists you detest. Your side would have casualties too.

If you don’t see the difference, you are not ignorant. You are dishonest. A liar. A hypocrite.

As far as Ashley dying? Look at my posts. All of them. I always say that any death is a tragedy, and we need to study and learn from each event in an effort to prevent as many as possible in the future. Finally one was found by the Right that they agree with that about. Because for years on this and many other boards I’ve read time and time again how right it was for the cop to shoot an unarmed person.
 
The FBI - the criminal organization that has been illegally spying on Americans, who attempted to help Obama affect the overthrow of the US govt by removing the President from office, & more who recently was exposed as flooding some group with operatives, introducing the plan to kidnap Gov Whitmer, then arresting them after they get them to go along with the idea - informs the Washington DC Mayor, the US House (Pelosi), US Senate (Schumer), and Capitol Police that there is a great POTENTIAL MORE A HUGE CROWD AND OF VIOLENCE ON 1/6.

Okay confirmed. You've lost your fucking mind my friend.
Need tinfoil? :lol:

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Whew!! Put that on a shoulder patch. Or a bumber-sticker. Maybe a T-shirt, but you gotta be close to read it. You are fast becoming one of my favs, easyt. You remind me of poster Rancid, or EMH, or little Breitpat. You guys ain't all the same guy, are you?
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Right there is proof you can lead a horse to water.....but you can't make him fish.
Poor easyt doesn't do homework.
Doesn't vet his assertions.
So do this, easyt.....prove to the forum that there have been no charges filed on those who are currently in jail.

Sic 'em, tiger!

I love this bar.

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(that's in reference to the MAGAMob savagely beating the police and trashing the Capitol).....Well, poster easyt, I suspect there is an argument to be made that if the MAGAMob had simply protested and peacefully paraded with their 'F*ck Biden', or 'Trump Won' flags, well then, "none of this would have happened."

Just sayin'.
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Ah, poster '2aguy' you have the forum's sympathy because you have such limited internet connectivity, perhaps no cable, and no friends who can informally apprise you of what's going on outside of your, well, outside of what seems to be your self-designed information-free bubble.

So, a brief nano-second autopsy:
1. "didn't beat the police"........ see

2. "shot without warning".........see The Journey of Ashli Babbitt - bellingcat

Also note this description of the scene as depicted in other videos of the event: "
One man shouted three times that an officer on the other side of the door had a gun. An officer with a gun can be seen at the edge of the video’s frame. The warning was repeated by another man, but other rioters continued trying to smash through the doorway."


MASS SOLITARY

According to the Tennessee Star, the jail where some rioters /trespassers are kept, houses 1,500 inmates. They are confined to their jail cells 22 hours per day, an increase of one hour over what it was last month. They are prohibited from going outside.

SOME ONLY TRESPASSED, OTHERS ARE HELD AND HAVEN’T BEEN CHARGED

As to those being held for being present at the Capitol on Jan. 6, many are being held in pretrial detention on charges ranging from knowingly entering or remaining in restricted grounds (trespassing) without authority to conspiracy, assault, and obstruction of an official proceeding.

Some haven’t been charged with anything.


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Many participants in the Jan. 6 Capitol riots are being held in solitary confinement in Washington, D.C.'s city jail, a situation that's drawing scrutiny from Democratic Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bob Casey and the American Civil Liberties Union.

D-Senator Warren Criticism Of Treatment Of Those Placed in Prolonged Solitary Confinement:
- "I do not believe in solitary confinement for extended periods of time for anyone.”

The American Civil Liberties Union, which has recently drawn criticism for favoring liberal causes over its tradition of representing unsympathetic clients and causes, is also weighing in on the side of Trump protesters being held alone:
-- "Prolonged solitary confinement is torture and certainly should not be used as a punitive tool to intimidate or extract cooperation." (- Tammie Gregg, deputy director of the ACLU National Prison Project)


Nobody should be detained indefinitely in America for domestic law purposes. So they deserve their day in court”


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Americans who were arrested, participated in no violence, and were eventually charged with a misdemeanor were forced to wait 6 months before getting a court date. Such abuse / incompetence violates Americans' right to a speedy trial.

Also, despite claiming the treatment of these people was NOT partisan, (liberal) Prosecuting Attorneys withheld 'deferred prosecution agreements'- an agreement that says if defendants stay out of trouble - from 1/6 defendants who merely waked through the Capitol without engaging in any violence, while these agreements were abundantly / readily given to domestic terrorists Antifa and BLM members who participated in highly destructive riots across the country last summer that caused BILLIONS of dollars in damages to democrat-run cities across the US.



Defendants held for prolonged periods of time that exceeded legal time limits people can be held without being charged with a crime, Americans being placed in prolonged / excessive Solitary Confinement (according to Democrats like D-Warren and the ACLU, defendants treated / charged differently than liberal / Let-Wing domestic criminals / terrorists....





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Video evidence shows, before the violence began on 1/6, Sullivan inciting violence, celebrating when he gets those around him to join in, and shows him encouraging / continuing to whip up the mob mentality DURING the violence...

...and you still post the OPINION that if the Conservatives/pro-Trump attendees had not allowed themselves to be whipped up into a mob-mentality frenzy and violence by Sullivan, had not allowed themselves to be egged-on by Sullivan .... in an attempt to excuse / minimalize what Sullivan was caught on video doing....the violence on 1/6 would have been prevented.

On this, I agree with you. In the end people are responsible for their own actions, and those who engaged in violence on 1/6 should be and have excessively been held accountable for their actions....but snowflakes can NOT escape the part Sullivan played in making sure it happened. The video of Sullivan initiating the violence, whipping it up, inciting it, and egging it on out-weigh your biased OPINION.

There ya go, Tiger....
 
Okay confirmed. You've lost your fucking mind my friend.
Need tinfoil? :lol:

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Hey, 'doc'....if insults is all you have to contribute, if you're going to cry because I spanked that lil' ass in front of everyone, you can head on back to the children's table.
 
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There are other ways to describe the crimes committed on 1/6 other than "insurrection". Obstructing a Civil Proceeding is one. Assaulting a Police Officer and Conspiracy are a couple others.

False Flag Operation? You people are getting crazier by the minute. Too much Gateway Pundit and Alex Jones I suspect. :lol:
Yeah, but the average voter just goes "so what" when he sees these other terms used. The charges made against the BLM protesters weren't any worse. Only the "insurrection" charges get's the yokels fire up.
 
Yeah, but the average voter just goes "so what" when he sees these other terms used. The charges made against the BLM protesters weren't any worse. Only the "insurrection" charges get's the yokels fire up.
But that is just it......Pelosi wants to hold some politically partisan, theatrical witch hunt over 'Insurrection' that does not exist and never existed. NONE - zero - of the people who were arrested have been or will be charged with 'Treason, Sedition, or Subversion', as per '18 USC Ch. 115: Treason, Sedition, And Subversive Activities':

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml...es, sets on foot,holding any office under the

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi intends to COMMIT FRAUD by declaring there was and to investigate a non-existent crime, one the Judicial system has already determined / declared never happened.


 
"Some haven’t been charged with anything."

Got any names on them folk?
Got a number on how many of them folk there be?
And if you do....well, where did you get it from?
In short, how do you know?
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And then you offer us this:

if the Conservatives/pro-Trump attendees had not allowed themselves to be whipped up into a mob-mentality frenzy and violence by Sullivan..... egged-on by Sullivan ....the violence on 1/6 would have been prevented..

Well, it seems clear ...based on solid reporting.....that Sullivan was a gadfly, an 'accelerator' in urban conflicts, which allowed him to then video the action and sell it to various media outlets. As he did with his video of the Babbitt shooting.

However, any partisans who wishes to lay all of the January 6th riot on Sullivan, or even a major part of it is....in my opinion....trying a bit too hard.

Sullivan did urge the Jackass Patriots to behave badly. We hear him doing it on video audio. He needs be condemned and punished for such.

However, Sullivan was one single moke in a tight crowd around that lobby barricade. His impact on the 1,000+ people who entered the Capito building, or on the thousand+ who were beating up cops on the steps of the Capitol couldn't have been much. In those places there were instigators from Proud Boys, Oathkeepers and others who served the role of 'accelerators', as leaders. Sullivan is off in a corner wedged in with a few dozen jackasses doing his own jackass stuff.

So, my poor avatar, for one, is a tad skeptical that trying to lay the blame for January 6th on the shoulders of this Sullivan character has any validity whatsoever.

And a curious question would be: Was Sullivan at the Ellipse listening to the Commander-in-Chief exhort the crowd to take back their country? To fight like hell?
 
Got any names on them folk?
Got a number on how many of them folk there be?
And if you do....well, where did you get it from?
In short, how do you know?
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And then you offer us this:


Well, it seems clear ...based on solid reporting.....that Sullivan was a gadfly, an 'accelerator' in urban conflicts, which allowed him to then video the action and sell it to various media outlets. As he did with his video of the Babbitt shooting.

However, any partisans who wishes to lay all of the January 6th riot on Sullivan, or even a major part of it is....in my opinion....trying a bit too hard.

Sullivan did urge the Jackass Patriots to behave badly. We hear him doing it on video audio. He needs be condemned and punished for such.

However, Sullivan was one single moke in a tight crowd around that lobby barricade. His impact on the 1,000+ people who entered the Capito building, or on the thousand+ who were beating up cops on the steps of the Capitol couldn't have been much. In those places there were instigators from Proud Boys, Oathkeepers and others who served the role of 'accelerators', as leaders. Sullivan is off in a corner wedged in with a few dozen jackasses doing his own jackass stuff.

So, my poor avatar, for one, is a tad skeptical that trying to lay the blame for January 6th on the shoulders of this Sullivan character has any validity whatsoever.

And a curious question would be: Was Sullivan at the Ellipse listening to the Commander-in-Chief exhort the crowd to take back their country? To fight like hell?
1. The report, as I stated, had many of those arrested uncharged months after. If you actually read the articles I posted links to, one talks in great detail about WHY - they had bo idea how to charge them - together, solo, in groups, etc... - what to charge them with, they had trouble finding prosecutors, etc...

It is evident you read next to nothing.

2. You also prove you either did not read what I actually wrote or chose to ignore it.

I stated those people arrested did break the law, shoukd be, and are being held unevenly and excessively accountable for their actions that day. No one is trying to lay everything squarely on Sullivan, especially me.

I clearly stated that I had completely destroyed the earlier ridiculous claim that Sullivan was nothing more than a 'ruse', an insignificant piece of the Incited violence. As you put it, he was most certainly the 'accelerators. He is undeniably on video before the violence begins inciting violence, celebrating when those around him began to join him, & egging rioters on during the violence.

It is too much work having to constantly correct your false accusations / spinning...
 
Primary Marxist Liberal Progressive Socialist Democrat Re-Education Camp:
-- Dept of Corrections Central Facility Washington DC

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Held Without Charges Being Filed

Held In Solitary Confinement

Sentence To Include forfeiture of right to watch anything they want on TV
- Returned to jail for watching an 'unapproved video'


Post-'Jan 6' treatment against US citizens who trespassed into the Capitol during a 'mostly peaceful protest' was the self-appointed Marxist Liberal dictators' / traitors' 1st act of 'war' against anyone and everyone who does not embrace liberal extremist ideology and agenda.

The horrendous partisan judicial - no, not even 'judicial' because what is being done violates Constitutional Rights and laws - treatment is meant to be a warning / threat to every other such American, that if you oppose the Marxist Leftist agenda and ideology your rights and freedom can be taken from you, too!
That's where Trump & the rest of his Mafia crew belong.
 
But that is just it......Pelosi wants to hold some politically partisan, theatrical witch hunt over 'Insurrection' that does not exist and never existed. NONE - zero - of the people who were arrested have been or will be charged with 'Treason, Sedition, or Subversion', as per '18 USC Ch. 115: Treason, Sedition, And Subversive Activities':

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim#:~:text=Whoever incites, sets on foot,holding any office under the

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi intends to COMMIT FRAUD by declaring there was and to investigate a non-existent crime, one the Judicial system has already determined / declared never happened.


My heart bleeds for em. Now, hold my beer.
 
"... they had bo idea how to charge them - together, solo, in groups, etc... - what to charge them with, they had trouble finding prosecutors, etc...
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Well, poster easyt, if they didn't know what to charge 'em with.....then, I suppose, those folks never got arrested. No?

Or, if the got arrested without charges, they still would be named. No?
And, if named......well then, partner, name 'em.
Name 'em. Or it didn't happen.
Duh.
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Now, on another tack, I ain't one who's all focused on "insurrection" as a charge. I'm quite OK with charging the guilty ones with assaulting a federal officer (8yrs in prison, depending); or assaulting a federal officer with a weapon (20yrs in the slammer, depending); or obstructing an official proceeding (20yrs).

So, as long as the guilty of January 6th's MAGAMob get a taste of hard time, well, can't we all be satisfied with that?

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Lastly, I noted in one of the links you posted as proof of your position, the link from uber-conservative Utah's Deseret News, well, there in Utah, they describe the Jackass Patriots, this way" "None of the hundreds of people formally accused of participating in the Jan. 6 insurrection........

"Insurrection"? Well, there you have it.

Even those uber-right Mormons suggest it was an insurrection.
 
You do realize that this is the reality for anyone in the US who is not rich enough to afford bail? Do you object to these conditions en toto, as it were, or just for your particular favorite putative lawbreakers?
What leftists are being held like this. You missed the point
 
They are protestors not criminals......we should care about them and not your beloved criminals.
Violence begets criminals, whether they protest or not and whether their color is red, white, tan, black, or purple.
When the violence is directed at overthrowing a duly elected government, it is known as "insurrection."
The January attack on our Capitol was indeed an insurrection and these criminals should be punished accordingly.
 
What leftists are being held like this. You missed the point
You miss the point..that their imprisonment is not affected by their politics. The conditions that they are held under are the same as any other lawbreaker. Yes, many, if not most, of them are in Protective Custody...solitary. This is for their protection. If they were tossed into GP, the likelihood of their being assaulted is high--so they are being protected. The attempts to obtain their releases based on their being in solitary--is doomed to failure. If they wish to end their solitary confinement..I imagine they can sign a waiver--and test their reception--on the Big Yard. I'd advise against it.
No one is being held without charges..most have voluntarily waived their rights to a speedy trial. This is routine. When you are demonstrably guilty..as most of these folk are--the usual tactic is to put some time before trial--for those going to trial--most will plead out. Lawyers like to pad their billable hours...and they don't like having to rush into court..on a case that is doomed to defeat.
The ongoing attempts to portray these criminals as political prisoners falls flat, to me, given the many real political prisoners in the world..most of whom you could not care less about.

As far as the Penal system is concerned, party affiliation and what side you are taking in the culture wars...means little, or nothing.

Anecdotally, most Prison guards are to the Right..and many are Trump fans.
 
NewsMax - The channel for those who can't think their way out of a wet paper bag.

Dodo Doc: There is no criminal charge called "insurrection", asshole.

Insurrection | Definition of Insurrection by Merriam-Webster

https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › insurr...
Insurrection definition is - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. How to use insurrection in a sentence.


The facts about Chansley:

Case Number Namesort descending Charge(s) Case Documents Location of Arrest Case Status Entry Last Updated*

1:21-cr-3 CHANSLEY, Jacob Anthony (aka, Jacob Angeli) Civil Disorder; Obsrtuction of an Official Proceeding; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building ARIZONA, Phoenix Complaint filed 1/8/21. Indicted 1/11/21. Arraigned 1/29 and pleaded not guilty to all counts.
Defendant remains committed.
June 16, 2021
Wow, all last year we had insurrection going on and no one from the left complained. What else is it when mobs burn police buildings and occupy part of a city, declaring it free from the laws of the country?
 
More than 500 Americans have been arrested by the FBI for the Jan. 6 protests including hundreds of Americans whose only crime...
... is being determined, not by hyper-partisans hellbent on validating their degeneracy, but in public trials where evidence is presented and the rights of the accused defended (except in those cases, where the Trump goons, presented with the evidence, have confessed.)

No rational, balanced American swallows the nonsense issuing from a Trump congressional toady that this...


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... is a "normal tourist visit." *
Ask the hundreds of police defending democracy whom the Trump goons savagely attacked.

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Trump bum kisser Andrew Clyde barricading House Chamber door against "tourists."
 
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Well, poster easyt, if they didn't know what to charge 'em with.....then, I suppose, those folks never got arrested. No?

Or, if the got arrested without charges, they still would be named. No?
And, if named......well then, partner, name 'em.
Name 'em. Or it didn't happen.
Duh.
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Now, on another tack, I ain't one who's all focused on "insurrection" as a charge. I'm quite OK with charging the guilty ones with assaulting a federal officer (8yrs in prison, depending); or assaulting a federal officer with a weapon (20yrs in the slammer, depending); or obstructing an official proceeding (20yrs).

So, as long as the guilty of January 6th's MAGAMob get a taste of hard time, well, can't we all be satisfied with that?

................................................................................

Lastly, I noted in one of the links you posted as proof of your position, the link from uber-conservative Utah's Deseret News, well, there in Utah, they describe the Jackass Patriots, this way" "None of the hundreds of people formally accused of participating in the Jan. 6 insurrection........

"Insurrection"? Well, there you have it.

Even those uber-right Mormons suggest it was an insurrection.
As you know, everyone currently incarcerated because of alleged wrongdoing in the Jan. 6 riot are being held on legal charges that they have been legally arraigned on.
Period. The idiots on the Alt/right that insist otherwise are taking the stance that if they are not charged with Treason, Insurrection or Sedition they are not, in effect, being charged. About as stupid as they come...but they really don't have anything else to hang on to.
 
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Wow, all last year we had insurrection going on and no one from the left complained. What else is it when mobs burn police buildings and occupy part of a city, declaring it free from the laws of the country?
You seem to be hung up on the whole 'insurrection' word. Let's just forget that, for the moment. Let's forget that the Capital of the US is a bit different than occupying some building.

Will you agree that these people being held broke the law? That they deserve the appropriate punishment for breaking the law? That the politics should go by the wayside, once the law is broken? No matter the political position? Perhaps you feel, as many seem to, that there have been no arrests of those on the Left?
You would be wrong, of course.


 
You seem to be hung up on the whole 'insurrection' word. Let's just forget that, for the moment. Let's forget that the Capital of the US is a bit different than occupying some building.

Will you agree that these people being held broke the law? That they deserve the appropriate punishment for breaking the law? That the politics should go by the wayside, once the law is broken? No matter the political position? Perhaps you feel, as many seem to, that there have been no arrests of those on the Left?
You would be wrong, of course.


Of course I'm going to react to the whole "insurrection" thing, because words mean things. I was pointing out that the definition someone posted to prove this was an insurrection applies to the riots we saw all last year that somehow escaped being labelled "insurrection". Now, let's look at applying punishment for breaking laws. Of course appropriate punishment needs to be meted out. During the riots last summer, was everyone who was even present identified by facial recognition software, hunted down and imprisoned for months awaiting trial? No, LE focused on the relative handful who assaulted people and destroyed property. So, I say that the same standard needs to be applied here.
 

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