Freedom Of Expression In France

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    But say anything negative about the so called Holocaust in France and you will go to jail. :cool:
     
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    In fact, French courts have only levied fines but in Germany, Austria or Switzerland you may go to prison. Question anything about Islam, however, and you are likely to be sentenced to death by any number of Islamic organizations including some of governments of Islamic countries.

    Laws against Holocaust denial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Yes, laws against free speech are a mistake. One must remember, though, that the Wehrmacht was on the streets of Paris for years of occupation. The experience of Nazism is much more real and evil in Europe than in the US. I am opposed to laws against statements about history, but understand the context. It is political.
    Religion is a different topic.
     
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    The difference is that the so called Holocaust was just an alleged historical event which may or may not be true..

    Whereas, Prophet Muhammad was an actual person and Islam is a real religion.
     
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    Holocaust denial laws were enacted BECAUSE Holocaust denial is part of the religion of islamo nazi pigs They are enforced most vigorously in lands which were impacted most negatively by the filth of nazism----the prime example being GERMANY I lived thru part of the evolution of holocaust denial It was no a PUBLIC issue in the USA until about 1980 In the 1950s most non jews never heard of "the holocaust" ----actually neither did I as a very little child but I certainly heard of CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND ADOLF HITLER -------my christian playmates were clueless. I grew up in a WASP ---semi nazi town and ----got to read the OLD STUFF lying around The fact is that HOLOCAUST DENIAL did not develope circa 1980 as it would seem to have to the casual observer. IT BEGAN IN THE 1930s in the islamo nazi literature when islamo nazis claimed and declared that any idea that something bad was going on in Germany in reference to jews was A JEWISH ZIONIST CONSPIRATORIAL LIE and anyone who claimed otherwise was a ZONIST WAR MONGER (remember---I said 1930s------the stuff was already being promulgated by islamo nazis in the 1930s) The really definitive holocaust denial filth was written in SYRIA AND EGYPT by nazi war criminals who found refuge and "honor" in muslim countries as PAID WRITERS OF ANTI ZIONIST PRO-SHIT FILTH some who whom actually converted to islam
     
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    a real rapist, a real murderer and a real disgusting pig

    may all those who deny or trivialize the filth of that pig and the islamo nazi program of the 1930s and 40s see upon their own-----that which the pig and his disciple ADOLF ABU ALI did to the innocent children of the righteous. My own cousins----little girls, were tossed into lime pits by the disciple of the rapist of arabia
     
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    The difference is that Islam, like most religions, is a collection of myths, many of which are demonstratively untrue by any rational analysis. What's real about Islam is that some people suspend rational thought in order to embrace these myths. On the other hand, the Holocaust is as well established as any other historical event, and is invariably questioned only by those who wish to incite hatred and perhaps violence against Jews.
     
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    How can these statements be made in the sense of intellectual honesty?

    I was not there in the seventh century. Neither were you. We don't directly know what happened at that time. We have heard or read about it.

    We have chosen to believe what we heard and read.

    I was not at the camps at the moment of liberation and neither were you.

    Etc.

    So, neither you nor I can honestly say the holocaust story is wrong without having to admit a person could rationally have the same regard to the story about Mohammed; we only know about these what we have received as communications about them.
     
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    the koran was written about 100 years after the rapist pig of arabia died------they CLAIMED that it was taken off "notes" scribbled on bone and leaves but whoever was LITERATE in the camp of the pig ------the pig not being literate himself What we know about the pig is in the koran and in the koran ----his rapes and murders are glorified ----other than that "evidence" we actually do not know if the pig existed --------but we do know that his followers comitted a comprehensive genocide of all those not interesting in licking the ass of the imaginary nabi in arabia
     

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