Fox News Washington editor caught on tape gloating about lying on air

[mudwhistle]

Not according to the very rules St Ronnie said should be used to calculate each president's debt!!! He said you start with the first FISCAL year for each president, which begins Oct 1, and you include the interest on the debt of each president. He told us that in his first speech as president. As the chart shows, the 8 fiscal years of Reagan plus the 4 fiscal years of Bush I and the 8 years of Bush II debts plus the interest on those debts comes to a little over $12 trillion.

You can blame a President for the debt if Congress is cooperative with him. When did Bush ever have full cooperation from Congress? Bush had spent 4 years trying to balance the budget and nearly had it done when the Dems took over. They took a deficit that was $169 billion and drove it up in two years to $1.7 trillion. Problem is the Dems are in control of Congress yet they've never passed a budget. I don't think they know how. But because of this, nobody knows how much has been spent or where.

Damn, don't you ever get tired of lying!!!!!!!!

First of all, Bush signed the budget, therefore he owns it. You might have an argument that congress owns it if Bush vetoed it and congress passed it over his veto, but that never happened.

And all you have to do is look at the deficits for each of Bush's fiscal years to see what a monumental lie your post is!!! Even with a GOP congress Bush was running up a half a trillion in debt each year, not any $169 billion.
Why are CON$ not the least bit ashamed of their lying??????

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010
Includes legal tender notes, gold and silver certificates, etc.
The first fiscal year for the U.S. Government started Jan. 1, 1789. Congress changed the beginning of the fiscal year from Jan. 1 to Jul. 1 in 1842, and finally from Jul. 1 to Oct. 1 in 1977 where it remains today.
To find more historical information, visit The Public Debt Historical Information archives.

Date
Dollar Amount

09/30/2010
13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009
11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008
10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007
9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006
8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005
7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004
7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003
6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002
6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001
5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000
5,674,178,209,886.86

Everything i've seen says the 06' deficit was only $169 bil

FYI if all congress gives the prez to sign is a POS to sign then that indicates a shared responsibility to a rational person.

 

[bodecea]

He said "we know where WMD's are" and at the the time he believed that to be a true statement based on the intel that he had. In order for you to prove he lied you must prove that he knew the statement was untrue at the time he made it. Good luck!

Your strawman has no place in this discussion. Obama did say that about the unemployment and he was wrong, as he was and is on many things.

One has to wonder at the incompetence of the Bush administration, or (gods forbid) the incompetence of the on-the-ground military forces...if they KNEW where these WMDs were, but they let them go.

So you think our troops are incompitent?

I can tell you've never spent much time on patrol in the Middle East.

I would say that it is anyone who thinks that WMDs were in existance and were allowed to be spirited to Syria believe our troops to be incompetent.


Me, I believe our troops are not going to let something like that happen....and it's just a right wing fantasy that WMDs existed and are were spirited to Syria under our troops' noses.

 

[edthecynic]

You can blame a President for the debt if Congress is cooperative with him. When did Bush ever have full cooperation from Congress? Bush had spent 4 years trying to balance the budget and nearly had it done when the Dems took over. They took a deficit that was $169 billion and drove it up in two years to $1.7 trillion. Problem is the Dems are in control of Congress yet they've never passed a budget. I don't think they know how. But because of this, nobody knows how much has been spent or where.

Damn, don't you ever get tired of lying!!!!!!!!

First of all, Bush signed the budget, therefore he owns it. You might have an argument that congress owns it if Bush vetoed it and congress passed it over his veto, but that never happened.

And all you have to do is look at the deficits for each of Bush's fiscal years to see what a monumental lie your post is!!! Even with a GOP congress Bush was running up a half a trillion in debt each year, not any $169 billion.
Why are CON$ not the least bit ashamed of their lying??????

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010
Includes legal tender notes, gold and silver certificates, etc.
The first fiscal year for the U.S. Government started Jan. 1, 1789. Congress changed the beginning of the fiscal year from Jan. 1 to Jul. 1 in 1842, and finally from Jul. 1 to Oct. 1 in 1977 where it remains today.
To find more historical information, visit The Public Debt Historical Information archives.

Date
Dollar Amount

09/30/2010
13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009
11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008
10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007
9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006
8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005
7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004
7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003
6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002
6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001
5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000
5,674,178,209,886.86

Everything i've seen says the 06' deficit was only $169 bil

FYI if all congress gives the prez to sign is a POS to sign then that indicates a shared responsibility to a rational person.

That's because you are blind to all sources other than CON$ervative liars scripted by the GOP.

And for the record, even using you rationalization, the 2007 budget was approved by the 2006 GOP congress before it was passed to Bush to sign, which he did. As the above actual deficit spending numbers show, both deficits were over a half a trillion dollars each, not any $169 billion like you get from your MessiahRushie.

 

[mudwhistle]

One has to wonder at the incompetence of the Bush administration, or (gods forbid) the incompetence of the on-the-ground military forces...if they KNEW where these WMDs were, but they let them go.

So you think our troops are incompitent?

I can tell you've never spent much time on patrol in the Middle East.

I would say that it is anyone who thinks that WMDs were in existance and were allowed to be spirited to Syria believe our troops to be incompetent.


Me, I believe our troops are not going to let something like that happen....and it's just a right wing fantasy that WMDs existed and are were spirited to Syria under our troops' noses.

It is a fantasy to think that the weapons that Saddam had were housed in massive warehouses in 55 gal drums or were already loaded into artillery pieces or any other delivery device. They weren't easily identifiable. Most of Saddam's weapons were chemicals in various containers that looked like cleaning supplies or something you would have in a chemistry lab. Our troops aren't experts in Binary weapons delivery. They are soldiers. Most of them did not know what to look for. When they came in the place was total chaos. You have to take this into consideration along with fatigue and a lack of familiarity with the landscape and the cities they were deployed to.

When I was in Somalia thousands of weapons were spirited out of a containment area under the noses of United Nations troops. Shortly afterward the city exploded and for 19 hours we came under intense fire from the very weapons we allowed to pass under our noses. I could see what was going on from a roof-top but when I asked WTF I was told to ignore what was going by my superiors. They didn't think that what appeared like looting was actually an organized effort to transport weapons in broad daylight.

 

[mudwhistle]

Damn, don't you ever get tired of lying!!!!!!!!

First of all, Bush signed the budget, therefore he owns it. You might have an argument that congress owns it if Bush vetoed it and congress passed it over his veto, but that never happened.

And all you have to do is look at the deficits for each of Bush's fiscal years to see what a monumental lie your post is!!! Even with a GOP congress Bush was running up a half a trillion in debt each year, not any $169 billion.
Why are CON$ not the least bit ashamed of their lying??????

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010
Includes legal tender notes, gold and silver certificates, etc.
The first fiscal year for the U.S. Government started Jan. 1, 1789. Congress changed the beginning of the fiscal year from Jan. 1 to Jul. 1 in 1842, and finally from Jul. 1 to Oct. 1 in 1977 where it remains today.
To find more historical information, visit The Public Debt Historical Information archives.

Date
Dollar Amount

09/30/2010
13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009
11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008
10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007
9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006
8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005
7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004
7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003
6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002
6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001
5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000
5,674,178,209,886.86

Everything i've seen says the 06' deficit was only $169 bil

FYI if all congress gives the prez to sign is a POS to sign then that indicates a shared responsibility to a rational person.

That's because you are blind to all sources other than CON$ervative liars scripted by the GOP.

And for the record, even using you rationalization, the 2007 budget was approved by the 2006 GOP congress before it was passed to Bush to sign, which he did. As the above actual deficit spending numbers show, both deficits were over a half a trillion dollars each, not any $169 billion like you get from your MessiahRushie.

I looked at your figures, Fuck Stain.

You're confusing the Public Debt with Intragovernmental Holdings.

The annual government deficit or surplus refers to the cash difference between government receipts and spending ignoring intra-governmental transfers. The gross public debt increases or decreases as a result of this unified budget deficit or surplus. However, there is certain spending (supplemental appropriations) that add to the gross debt but are excluded from the deficit. Gross debt has increased over $500 billion each year since fiscal year (FY) 2003, with increases of $1 trillion in FY2008, $1.9 trillion in FY2009, and $1.7 trillion in FY2010.[7] United States public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Public Debt is what I was talking about. What our government borrows from itself is another story. FYI, what the government borrows from Social Security and Medicare is not included in the budget.

You might wanna go back and check to see how much the Public Debt changed in fiscal year 06 and compare it to the last two fiscal years. And while you're at it check out how much Obama borrowed from Social Security and Medicare. Look at how many I.O.U.s he wrote against our retirement accounts. If we stopped them from doing this it would erase a goodly portion of our debt and prevent them from spending us into bankruptcy.

 

[skookerasbil]

Im laughing.................

How many people are going to know about this story? About 179?

 

[mudwhistle]

Im laughing.................

How many people are going to know about this story? About 179?

All bogus stories like this do is give the Obamamaniacs justification for chanting "Fox Lies". That is all it's intended for. I'm sure they hoped it would catch on and take hold. But I'm sure they're scouring hours upon hours of footage from Fox looking for anything they can misinterpret. I'm also sure they're looking into the phone records and internet habits of anyone who works at Fox, from the CEO to the guy that cleans the toilets.

 

[editec]

FOX NEWS

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[mudwhistle]

FOX NEWS

We report mischevious speculation
You decide.
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Dude, you've been owned.

Call me a liar.

 

[edthecynic]

Everything i've seen says the 06' deficit was only $169 bil

FYI if all congress gives the prez to sign is a POS to sign then that indicates a shared responsibility to a rational person.

That's because you are blind to all sources other than CON$ervative liars scripted by the GOP.

And for the record, even using you rationalization, the 2007 budget was approved by the 2006 GOP congress before it was passed to Bush to sign, which he did. As the above actual deficit spending numbers show, both deficits were over a half a trillion dollars each, not any $169 billion like you get from your MessiahRushie.

I looked at your figures, Fuck Stain.

You're confusing the Public Debt with Intragovernmental Holdings.

The annual government deficit or surplus refers to the cash difference between government receipts and spending ignoring intra-governmental transfers. The gross public debt increases or decreases as a result of this unified budget deficit or surplus. However, there is certain spending (supplemental appropriations) that add to the gross debt but are excluded from the deficit. Gross debt has increased over $500 billion each year since fiscal year (FY) 2003, with increases of $1 trillion in FY2008, $1.9 trillion in FY2009, and $1.7 trillion in FY2010.[7] United States public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Public Debt is what I was talking about. What our government borrows from itself is another story. FYI, what the government borrows from Social Security and Medicare is not included in the budget.

You might wanna go back and check to see how much the Public Debt changed in fiscal year 06 and compare it to the last two fiscal years. And while you're at it check out how much Obama borrowed from Social Security and Medicare. Look at how many I.O.U.s he wrote against our retirement accounts. If we stopped them from doing this it would erase a goodly portion of our debt and prevent them from spending us into bankruptcy.

What a load of BULLSHIT!!!

You are still trying to claim that "supplemental" off budget DEFICIT spending is NOT deficit spending. And Bush borrowed more from SS than Obama.

The real deficit spending is accurately reflected in the increase in gross public debt each year, not the cooked budget numbers Bush and the GOP use.