Forbes Says: Obamacare Website Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You to Know the Price

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You have to read this to believe it. Only Obama and his people could do this crap.




Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its


The Healthcare.gov website requires that individuals looking for coverage enter personal information before comparing plans. IT experts believe that this requirement is causing the website to crash.

A growing consensus of IT experts, outside and inside the government, have figured out a principal reason why the website for Obamacare’s federally-sponsored insurance exchange is crashing. Healthcare.gov forces you to create an account and enter detailed personal information before you can start shopping. This, in turn, creates a massive traffic bottleneck, as the government verifies your information and decides whether or not you’re eligible for subsidies. HHS bureaucrats knew this would make the website run more slowly. But they were more afraid that letting people see the underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans would scare people away.

HHS didn’t want users to see Obamacare’s true costs

“Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering,” report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.”

As you know if you’ve been following this space, Obamacare’s bevy of mandates, regulations, taxes, and fees drives up the cost of the insurance plans that are offered under the law’s public exchanges. A Manhattan Institute analysis I helped conduct found that, on average, the cheapest plan offered in a given state, under Obamacare, will be 99 percent more expensive for men, and 62 percent more expensive for women, than the cheapest plan offered under the old system. And those disparities are even wider for healthy people.

That raises an obvious question. If 50 million people are uninsured today, mainly because insurance is too expensive, why is it better to make coverage even costlier?

Political objectives trumped operational objectives

The answer is that Obamacare wasn’t designed to help healthy people with average incomes get health insurance. It was designed to force those people to pay more for coverage, in order to subsidize insurance for people with incomes near the poverty line, and those with chronic or costly medical conditions.

But the laws’ supporters and enforcers don’t want you to know that, because it would violate the President’s incessantly repeated promise that nothing would change for the people that Obamacare doesn’t directly help. If you shop for Obamacare-based coverage without knowing if you qualify for subsidies, you might be discouraged by the law’s steep costs.

So, by analyzing your income first, if you qualify for heavy subsidies, the website can advertise those subsidies to you instead of just hitting you with Obamacare’s steep premiums. For example, the site could advertise plans that “$0″ or “$30″ instead of explaining that the plan really costs $200, and you’re getting a subsidy of $200 or $170. But you’ll have to be at or near the poverty line to gain subsidies of that size; most people will either not qualify for a subsidy, or qualify for a small one that, net-net, doesn’t make up for the law’s cost hikes.

This political objective—masking the true underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans—far outweighed the operational objective of making the federal website work properly. Think about it the other way around. If the “Affordable Care Act” truly did make health insurance more affordable, there would be no need to hide these prices from the public.

Subsidy verification created a traffic bottleneck

Comparable private-sector e-commerce sites, like eHealthInsurance.com, allow you to shop for plans and compare prices simply by entering your age and your ZIP code. After you’ve selected a plan you like, you fill out an on-line application. That substantially winnows down the number of people who rely on the site for network-intensive tasks.

The federal government’s decision to force people to apply before shopping, Weaver and Radnofsky write, “proved crucial because, before users can begin shopping for coverage, they must cross a busy digital junction in which data are swapped among separate computer systems built or run by contractors including CGI Group Inc., the healthcare.gov developer, Quality Software Services Inc., a UnitedHealth Group Inc. unit; and credit-checker Experian PLC. If any part of the web of systems fails to work properly, it could lead to a traffic jam blocking most users from the marketplace.”

Jay Angoff, a former federal official at the agency that oversees the exchange, told the Journal that he was surprised by the decision. “People should be able to get quotes” without entering all of that information upfront.

Weaver and Radnofsky say that the core problem stems from “the slate of registration systems [that] intersect with Oracle Identity Manager, a software component embedded in a government identity-checking system.” The main Healthcare.gov web page collects information using the CGI Group technology. Then that data is transferred to a system built by Quailty Software Services. QSS then sends data to Experian, the credit-history firm. But the key “identity management system” employed by QSS was designed by Oracle, and according to the Journal’s sources, the Oracle software isn’t playing nicely with the other information systems.

Oracle hotly denies these claims. “Our software is the identical product deployed in most of the world’s most complex systems…our software is running properly,” said an Oracle spokeswoman in a statement.

‘It’s awful, just awful’

Robert Pear and colleagues at the New York Times have a piece up today detailing the serious problems with the federal exchange, problems that may get worse, not better. They confirm what we already knew: that the Obama administration refused to delay the implementation of the exchanges, despite the well-known problems, because they were afraid of the political blowback. “Former government officials say the White House, which was calling the shots, feared that any backtracking would further embolden Republican critics who were trying to repeal the health care law.”

As I documented last week, IT and insurance experts have been saying for at least eight months that implementation of the exchanges was going badly, that as early as February officials were warning of a “third world experience.” The Times’ sources are just as blunt. “These are not glitches,” said one insurance executive. “The extent of the problems is pretty enormous. At the end of our [conference calls with the administration], people say, ‘It’s awful, just awful.’”

“We foresee a train wreck,” said another executive in a February interview with the Times. “We don’t have the IT specifications. The level of angst in health plans is growing by leaps and bounds. The political people in the administration do not understand how far behind they are.” Richard Foster, the former chief actuary at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said last week that “so much testing of the new system was so far behind schedule, I was not confident it would work well.”

Henry Chao, the deputy chief information officer at CMS who made the “third world experience” comment, was told by his superiors that failure to meet the October 1 launch deadline “was not an option,” according to the Times.

White House knowingly chose to court disaster

Think about it. It’s quite possible that much of this disaster could have been avoided if the Obama administration had been willing to be open with the public about the degree to which Obamacare escalates the cost of health insurance. If they had, then a number of the problems with the exchange’s software architecture would have been avoided. But that would require admitting that the “Affordable Care Act” was not accurately named.

They knew that their people on the front lines, people like Henry Chao, were worried that the exchanges would get botched. They saw the Congressional Research Service memorandum detailing that the administration has missed half of the statutory deadlines assigned by the law. But they were more afraid of the P.R. disaster of disclosing Obamacare’s high premiums than they were of the P.R. disaster of crashing websites. What you see is the result.
 
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You have to read this to believe it. Only Obama and his people could do this crap.

Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its
You have to be an idiot DittoTard to believe that crap. Healthcare.gov has a link to estimating your cost without having to fill out an application.

https://www.healthcare.gov/how-can-...-and-savings-on-marketplace-health-insurance/
If a one-tooth, old, retarded, crackhead said that Obama had a sex-change, RW dumb dumbs like WelfareQueen would lap it up as Gospel Truth. They've shown that they fall for it time, and time, and time again.
 
You have to read this to believe it. Only Obama and his people could do this crap.

Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its
You have to be an idiot DittoTard to believe that crap. Healthcare.gov has a link to estimating your cost without having to fill out an application.

https://www.healthcare.gov/how-can-...-and-savings-on-marketplace-health-insurance/
If a one-tooth, old, retarded, crackhead said that Obama had a sex-change, RW dumb dumbs like WelfareQueen would lap it up as Gospel Truth. They've shown that they fall for it time, and time, and time again.

Obama had a sex change? I knew it!

obama_sex_change_we_can_bel.jpg
 
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You know.................if you already have health insurance through your job or privately, this law does not affect you, right?

However...................if you do not, or already have a pre existing condition, it WILL help you get insurance so you can live?

Sorry, but the scary stories about Obamacare (aka the ACA or Affordable Care Act), are false. The ACA will help those who need insurance but can't afford it (under the current rules of insurance), as well as will help those people who are ineligible because of pre existing conditions.

Me personally? I served 20 years in the military, and every time I needed a doctor, dentist or eye doctor, all I had to do was tell my supervisor and head for the clinic.

It works for the military, why can't it work for the civilians?
 
1. You know.................if you already have health insurance through your job or privately, this law does not affect you, right?

2. However...................if you do not, or already have a pre existing condition, it WILL help you get insurance so you can live?

3. Sorry, but the scary stories about Obamacare (aka the ACA or Affordable Care Act), are false. The ACA will help those who need insurance but can't afford it (under the current rules of insurance), as well as will help those people who are ineligible because of pre existing conditions.

Me personally? I served 20 years in the military, and every time I needed a doctor, dentist or eye doctor, all I had to do was tell my supervisor and head for the clinic.

It works for the military, why can't it work for the civilians?

1. No. If your insurance is not covered, you can lose that and your doctor.

HHS Admits: You Might Not Be Able to Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

2. It may not do much good if you can't sign up for it.

3. Really? Or are we just jumping on the bandwagon? Just the rollout alone is a disaster, it takes an ignoramus to not see it.

Blog: Obamacare Facebook page flooded with horror stories about cost, access

https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

Do you see anyone who is happy with it? How are the claims false? Are all the folks bashing it on their Facebook page all liars?
 
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I can't help but laugh out loud when I read over the comments on the Healthcare.gov Facebook page.

:lmao:

The proof of it's failure are on the lips of many a citizen.

One post in particular:

Joshua Strickland The plans I saw under $100 also had $11,000 deductibles. #worthless

Unlike · Reply · 374 · October 11 at 5:27pm via mobile
 
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Sorry, but the ACA (also known as Obamacare) is a really good deal.

I mean there are Republicans who have gone on television and said that it saved them over 6,000/year.

And...............if you think (or know, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt) that the ACA (aka Obamacare) is going to cost you more than what you pay right now, can you provide a link to prove it? I'm asking nicely..............................
 
You have to read this to believe it. Only Obama and his people could do this crap.

Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its
You have to be an idiot DittoTard to believe that crap. Healthcare.gov has a link to estimating your cost without having to fill out an application.

https://www.healthcare.gov/how-can-...-and-savings-on-marketplace-health-insurance/

That page just gives a link to a third party website that only gives you estimates, and you still have to put in personal income levels. :eusa_whistle:
 
It's crashing because it was coded by a five year old. A really rich one who will make a Forbes list now.
 
I can't help but laugh out loud when I read over the comments on the Healthcare.gov Facebook page.

:lmao:

The proof of it's failure are on the lips of many a citizen.

One post in particular:

Joshua Strickland The plans I saw under $100 also had $11,000 deductibles. #worthless

Unlike · Reply · 374 · October 11 at 5:27pm via mobile

Yes, everyone is starting to realize this whole thing is just smoke n' mirrors. Like everything else in the progressive agenda, its all bullshit and lies.
 
1. You know.................if you already have health insurance through your job or privately, this law does not affect you, right?

2. However...................if you do not, or already have a pre existing condition, it WILL help you get insurance so you can live?

3. Sorry, but the scary stories about Obamacare (aka the ACA or Affordable Care Act), are false. The ACA will help those who need insurance but can't afford it (under the current rules of insurance), as well as will help those people who are ineligible because of pre existing conditions.

Me personally? I served 20 years in the military, and every time I needed a doctor, dentist or eye doctor, all I had to do was tell my supervisor and head for the clinic.

It works for the military, why can't it work for the civilians?

1. No. If your insurance is not covered, you can lose that and your doctor.

HHS Admits: You Might Not Be Able to Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

2. It may not do much good if you can't sign up for it.

3. Really? Or are we just jumping on the bandwagon? Just the rollout alone is a disaster, it takes an ignoramus to not see it.

Blog: Obamacare Facebook page flooded with horror stories about cost, access

https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

Do you see anyone who is happy with it? How are the claims false? Are all the folks bashing it on their Facebook page all liars?

Really? A blog that states exactly what you want it to?

I guess the opinions of idiots who say that the debt ceiling is nothing to worry about, as well as those who think that the government shutdown is nothing to worry about are right as well?

Sorry.........................but I'm a 20 year Navy veteran who is very concerned about where my next check is coming from, because those in the GOP who are the tea party have decided to shut it down because they think it's going to save them money.

Check again..................the shutdown is currently costing the government around 300 MILLION dollars per day.

Go ahead tea party, tell me how much we save for every day the government is shut down.
 
You know.................if you already have health insurance through your job or privately, this law does not affect you, right?

However...................if you do not, or already have a pre existing condition, it WILL help you get insurance so you can live?

Sorry, but the scary stories about Obamacare (aka the ACA or Affordable Care Act), are false. The ACA will help those who need insurance but can't afford it (under the current rules of insurance), as well as will help those people who are ineligible because of pre existing conditions.

Me personally? I served 20 years in the military, and every time I needed a doctor, dentist or eye doctor, all I had to do was tell my supervisor and head for the clinic.

It works for the military, why can't it work for the civilians?

Have you read the Healthcare.gov facebook page? Its amazing how much of it is negative.

The only people who make out good are those being subsidized by the rest. Raised premiums, ultra high deductables for the rest....that being the majority.

Wake up and smell the steaming pile of shit that is ACA.
 
1. You know.................if you already have health insurance through your job or privately, this law does not affect you, right?

2. However...................if you do not, or already have a pre existing condition, it WILL help you get insurance so you can live?

3. Sorry, but the scary stories about Obamacare (aka the ACA or Affordable Care Act), are false. The ACA will help those who need insurance but can't afford it (under the current rules of insurance), as well as will help those people who are ineligible because of pre existing conditions.

Me personally? I served 20 years in the military, and every time I needed a doctor, dentist or eye doctor, all I had to do was tell my supervisor and head for the clinic.

It works for the military, why can't it work for the civilians?

1. No. If your insurance is not covered, you can lose that and your doctor.

HHS Admits: You Might Not Be Able to Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

2. It may not do much good if you can't sign up for it.

3. Really? Or are we just jumping on the bandwagon? Just the rollout alone is a disaster, it takes an ignoramus to not see it.

Blog: Obamacare Facebook page flooded with horror stories about cost, access

https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

Do you see anyone who is happy with it? How are the claims false? Are all the folks bashing it on their Facebook page all liars?

Really? A blog that states exactly what you want it to?

I guess the opinions of idiots who say that the debt ceiling is nothing to worry about, as well as those who think that the government shutdown is nothing to worry about are right as well?

Sorry.........................but I'm a 20 year Navy veteran who is very concerned about where my next check is coming from, because those in the GOP who are the tea party have decided to shut it down because they think it's going to save them money.

Check again..................the shutdown is currently costing the government around 300 MILLION dollars per day.

Go ahead tea party, tell me how much we save for every day the government is shut down.

Fine... just... keep ignoring reality. That was an admission from the HHS actually. Tell me, how much do we save by raising the debt ceiling, wiseguy?

And frankly, I don't care if you've been in the Navy for 20 years, using your service as a weapon in a debate is dishonorable. When our government collapses under it's own debt, just where will that paycheck come from then?
 
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1. No. If your insurance is not covered, you can lose that and your doctor.

HHS Admits: You Might Not Be Able to Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare | The Weekly Standard

2. It may not do much good if you can't sign up for it.

3. Really? Or are we just jumping on the bandwagon? Just the rollout alone is a disaster, it takes an ignoramus to not see it.

Blog: Obamacare Facebook page flooded with horror stories about cost, access

https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

Do you see anyone who is happy with it? How are the claims false? Are all the folks bashing it on their Facebook page all liars?

Really? A blog that states exactly what you want it to?

I guess the opinions of idiots who say that the debt ceiling is nothing to worry about, as well as those who think that the government shutdown is nothing to worry about are right as well?

Sorry.........................but I'm a 20 year Navy veteran who is very concerned about where my next check is coming from, because those in the GOP who are the tea party have decided to shut it down because they think it's going to save them money.

Check again..................the shutdown is currently costing the government around 300 MILLION dollars per day.

Go ahead tea party, tell me how much we save for every day the government is shut down.

Fine... just... keep ignoring reality. That was an admission from the HHS actually. Tell me, how much do we save by raising the debt ceiling, wiseguy?

And frankly, I don't care if you've been in the Navy for 20 years, using your service as a weapon in a debate is dishonorable. When our government collapses under it's own debt, just where will that paycheck come from then?

Really? Telling you how many years I've served and telling you that you're wrong based on my experience from my service is dishonorable?

I guess you're part of the GOP fringe who thinks that paying lip service to the troops (by saying they support the troops) is what makes a good patriot.

However.................if you REALLY want to be a good patriot, you'd serve the military by funding them as well as the vets that are currently cut off due to the shutting down of the government.

Most of you who think that the tea party is right have never served, nor wished to.
 
Really? A blog that states exactly what you want it to?

I guess the opinions of idiots who say that the debt ceiling is nothing to worry about, as well as those who think that the government shutdown is nothing to worry about are right as well?

Sorry.........................but I'm a 20 year Navy veteran who is very concerned about where my next check is coming from, because those in the GOP who are the tea party have decided to shut it down because they think it's going to save them money.

Check again..................the shutdown is currently costing the government around 300 MILLION dollars per day.

Go ahead tea party, tell me how much we save for every day the government is shut down.

Fine... just... keep ignoring reality. That was an admission from the HHS actually. Tell me, how much do we save by raising the debt ceiling, wiseguy?

And frankly, I don't care if you've been in the Navy for 20 years, using your service as a weapon in a debate is dishonorable. When our government collapses under it's own debt, just where will that paycheck come from then?

Really? Telling you how many years I've served and telling you that you're wrong based on my experience from my service is dishonorable?

I guess you're part of the GOP fringe who thinks that paying lip service to the troops (by saying they support the troops) is what makes a good patriot.

However.................if you REALLY want to be a good patriot, you'd serve the military by funding them as well as the vets that are currently cut off due to the shutting down of the government.

Most of you who think that the tea party is right have never served, nor wished to.

Sigh. Who the hell cares? Stop whining.
 
Its crashing because folks are getting a look at their deductables. Heart attacks all over the place.

Hell. I'd crash to.
 
Really? A blog that states exactly what you want it to?

I guess the opinions of idiots who say that the debt ceiling is nothing to worry about, as well as those who think that the government shutdown is nothing to worry about are right as well?

Sorry.........................but I'm a 20 year Navy veteran who is very concerned about where my next check is coming from, because those in the GOP who are the tea party have decided to shut it down because they think it's going to save them money.

Check again..................the shutdown is currently costing the government around 300 MILLION dollars per day.

Go ahead tea party, tell me how much we save for every day the government is shut down.

Fine... just... keep ignoring reality. That was an admission from the HHS actually. Tell me, how much do we save by raising the debt ceiling, wiseguy?

And frankly, I don't care if you've been in the Navy for 20 years, using your service as a weapon in a debate is dishonorable. When our government collapses under it's own debt, just where will that paycheck come from then?

Really? Telling you how many years I've served and telling you that you're wrong based on my experience from my service is dishonorable?

I guess you're part of the GOP fringe who thinks that paying lip service to the troops (by saying they support the troops) is what makes a good patriot.

However.................if you REALLY want to be a good patriot, you'd serve the military by funding them as well as the vets that are currently cut off due to the shutting down of the government.

Most of you who think that the tea party is right have never served, nor wished to.

You're so full of shit. You do not speak for veterans. I know a hell of a lot of veterans and active duty and I know for a fact that more of them lean right than they do left.

You KNOW that Dems always look to gutting the military first before their beloved welfare programs. Also, Repubs already passed bills fully funding the military and veterans benefits as separate measures and YOUR beloved (D)-bags shot it down. I guess they don't agree that the troops and vets should get paid no matter what.
 
OK, nothing new under the sun - the left LIES to cover their previous lies.

It is their modus operandi.

Only stupid sheeple can get hooked on those lies again and again and again.

It was widely known ( if you would like to listen) that obamacare was designed BY insurance companies FOR insurance companies to hose those who are healthy and young in order to pay for all others - which is extremely unfair. It was also designed to have a nazi-like grip of the government over you if you don't want to be robbed by big businesses.

Democrats protecting big corporations on the backs of ordinary taxpayer - what else is new?
 
Look, all we have to do is look at the facts. Obamacare is starting off with a bang... like a cannon missing its target. The website is not working properly, whether it was intended or not, I guess is irrelevant.

People are complaining, and headlines are being made, all negative. This does not bode well for the presidents signature accomplishment.

The only fact missing is the reasons why everything is a mess. And in time that will be sorted out. Is this too lies and, in a sense a coverup of intentional bad campaign promises or incompetence on the part of the administration yet again?
 

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