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A march that appears to have been organized by SEIU stepped off from City Hall at approximately noon. They marched down Broadway on the sidewalk until 4th St. Police officers, not in full riot gear but with riot helmets, batons, plastic hand cuff ties and a couple long green rifles, possibly outnumbered protestors.
Again.. asswarp.. the banks have repaid their bailout money.. why aren't you going after fannie and freddie? 187 billion is a lot of money. innit?
So let's see. I directly answered your question regarding an issue (We would end F&F). That's called strength.
You dodged the question again and basically did as is predictible per my signature below.
That's called weakness.
I'll be impressed when a Conservative actually discusses issues instead of all the tactics from the Handbook listed in my signature below. Not holding my breath though...
So let's see. I directly answered your question regarding an issue (We would end F&F). That's called strength.
You dodged the question again and basically did as is predictible per my signature below.
That's called weakness.
I'll be impressed when a Conservative actually discusses issues instead of all the tactics from the Handbook listed in my signature below. Not holding my breath though...
Thanks for posting this. You're right the messages in the OP are rarely reported on.
I understand the anger directed at the "1%"/corp greed group. But why no mention of "union greed"? Do they not do the same as the "1%" . . . they scratch gov'ts back while gov'ts scratches theirs?
And while it's wrong for corps/unions to buy government . . . . I find it more appalling that government takes the bribe. Corporations/unions don't work for the people, the government does. So where's the anger at those who are suppose to be looking out for us? I'm not seeing that coming out of OWS . . . perhaps I missed it.
If it is rarely reported on why do I keep seeing it in the everywhere I look?
I haven't seen the points in the OP reported on, just the negative loons stuff. And I haven't heard anything about them being angry at government or unions, just corps.
Again.. asswarp.. the banks have repaid their bailout money.. why aren't you going after fannie and freddie? 187 billion is a lot of money. innit?
So let's see. I directly answered your question regarding an issue (We would end F&F). That's called strength.
You dodged the question again and basically did as is predictible per my signature below.
That's called weakness.
I'll be impressed when a Conservative actually discusses issues instead of all the tactics from the Handbook listed in my signature below. Not holding my breath though...
I did discuss the issues...and you ignored what I said and proclaimed that no conservatives were discussing what you had posted about. Seriously...are you always this much of a blow hard?
So let's see. I directly answered your question regarding an issue (We would end F&F). That's called strength.
You dodged the question again and basically did as is predictible per my signature below.
That's called weakness.
I'll be impressed when a Conservative actually discusses issues instead of all the tactics from the Handbook listed in my signature below. Not holding my breath though...
So we see CLEARLY the one who is frightened.
I understand, you can't address my posts. You are but a hack tool of the DNC.
So let's see. I directly answered your question regarding an issue (We would end F&F). That's called strength.
You dodged the question again and basically did as is predictible per my signature below.
That's called weakness.
I'll be impressed when a Conservative actually discusses issues instead of all the tactics from the Handbook listed in my signature below. Not holding my breath though...
I did discuss the issues...and you ignored what I said and proclaimed that no conservatives were discussing what you had posted about. Seriously...are you always this much of a blow hard?
I wasn't replying to you and I don't live here so I often miss a post or two. So pardon my not seeing a post about Gramm-Leach-Bliley etc...! Care to point it out? I'd certainly be happy to reply directly to any issues actually relating to those discussed in the OP!
I did discuss the issues...and you ignored what I said and proclaimed that no conservatives were discussing what you had posted about. Seriously...are you always this much of a blow hard?
I wasn't replying to you and I don't live here so I often miss a post or two. So pardon my not seeing a post about Gramm-Leach-Bliley etc...! Care to point it out? I'd certainly be happy to reply directly to any issues actually relating to those discussed in the OP!
Well maybe if you weren't so busy crowing about how conservatives are too afraid to debate you...you'd actually READ the posts where they do?
And you STILL haven't responded to my questions about the rest of the demands that the OWS protesters are making. Why is that? Oh, wait...I see how it works with you. You get to choose what is and isn't discussable and if you find a question "inconvenient" then you just ignore it and insist on discussing what you think is pertinent?
If it is rarely reported on why do I keep seeing it in the everywhere I look?
I haven't seen the points in the OP reported on, just the negative loons stuff. And I haven't heard anything about them being angry at government or unions, just corps.
You should consider expanding your pool of news sources.
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tell us what you demand of fannie and freddiy? they owe us 187 billion dollars and they want more at the same time they want their ceo's to get millions in bonus money.. why don't you tell us about them?
Now you know camping out on Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac would make to0 much sense for an Occupy whatever protester--.
They really do not want to go after Federal Government agencies or policies--because they want more government control--so they can get more government stuff--paid for by someone else. That's why we don't see them anywhere NEAR--ANYTHING that would have to do with the Federal Government--and that's also why the Occupy whatever protesters are NOT CREDIBLE.
Again, we would simply end Freddie and Fannie. Is that a clear, direct answer? See that's how responding to an issue is done. Thus far, the Conservatives have made 20 posts and not one has been capable of addressing any of the issues brought up in the OP. (Capitalism vs. Corporatacracy; Bailouts; Gramm-Leach-Bliley).
Maybe someday those who have done all the Usual Predictions as outlined below, will be like we Occupiers - and capable of responding directly to issues!
Haven't seen any evidence of that here but who knows? It could happen!
Your sig.... those tactics were developed by Saul Alinsky. You might need to google his name.... Beloved Hero of the left wing.... he wrote a little handbook for y'all.... Rules For Radicals.
It is laughable that you claim independence and accuse the right of those tactics. Seriously fucking laughable. You are on the intellectual level of TruthMockers.
I did discuss the issues...and you ignored what I said and proclaimed that no conservatives were discussing what you had posted about. Seriously...are you always this much of a blow hard?
I wasn't replying to you and I don't live here so I often miss a post or two. So pardon my not seeing a post about Gramm-Leach-Bliley etc...! Care to point it out? I'd certainly be happy to reply directly to any issues actually relating to those discussed in the OP!
Just for your edification...I DID post about Gramm-Leach-Bliley, etc. You simply ignored it.
"In regards to Glass Steagel? Once again...if I'm not mistaken that was something that was signed into law by Bill Clinton because international banks were killing US banks since they could invest in areas that US banks couldn't. I personally agree with Newt on this issue. In the pursuit of short term profits, US commercial banks put themselves in a vulnerable position they wouldn't have been in otherwise."
I wasn't replying to you and I don't live here so I often miss a post or two. So pardon my not seeing a post about Gramm-Leach-Bliley etc...! Care to point it out? I'd certainly be happy to reply directly to any issues actually relating to those discussed in the OP!
Just for your edification...I DID post about Gramm-Leach-Bliley, etc. You simply ignored it.
"In regards to Glass Steagel? Once again...if I'm not mistaken that was something that was signed into law by Bill Clinton because international banks were killing US banks since they could invest in areas that US banks couldn't. I personally agree with Newt on this issue. In the pursuit of short term profits, US commercial banks put themselves in a vulnerable position they wouldn't have been in otherwise."
Okay again, I don't live here. I miss posts from time to time. So now that I see your post, I'm happy to reply.
First a minor correction - Clinton signed Gramm-Leach-Blilely, not the 1933 Glass-Steagal but it's understandable that you wrote the latter when you meant the former as they are so related. Yup Clinton signed it. Three Republicans had a super-majority, veto-proof senate so what was he going to do, veto it? Besides, several Dems were behind it as well. And it was a huge mistake. By the DEMS and Repubs who let it go through (see how that works? Not afraid of saying the Dems f*cked up at all! Hell, I think Obama SUCKS!).
So I agree with you and Newt and OWS on this issue.
Again, we would simply end Freddie and Fannie. Is that a clear, direct answer? See that's how responding to an issue is done. Thus far, the Conservatives have made 20 posts and not one has been capable of addressing any of the issues brought up in the OP. (Capitalism vs. Corporatacracy; Bailouts; Gramm-Leach-Bliley).
Maybe someday those who have done all the Usual Predictions as outlined below, will be like we Occupiers - and capable of responding directly to issues!
Haven't seen any evidence of that here but who knows? It could happen!
Your sig.... those tactics were developed by Saul Alinsky. You might need to google his name.... Beloved Hero of the left wing.... he wrote a little handbook for y'all.... Rules For Radicals.
It is laughable that you claim independence and accuse the right of those tactics. Seriously fucking laughable. You are on the intellectual level of TruthMockers.
You're funny! You must be one of the most popular girls in your trailer park! So you and Soggybrained have posted on this thread a half dozen times each and neither of you has the brains or balls to address a single issue discussed in the post. Which kind of PROVES you fit into the category discussed in my signature.
Are either of you EVER going to actually discuss and issue?
WHAT was I thinkin!!!!
Thanks for continuing to prove my signature correct. (BTW there are Liberal whackjobs too! You two just epitomize the Conservative example of them)
Have a nice day,
Your BFF
"I guess" my questions won't be answered. "I guess."
Unions buying Democratic politicians wasn't mentioned because Democrats, like Republicans, are bought by corporations, not unions.
Fannie and Freddy are trivial compared to the corruption of our elected and supposedly democratic government by corporate money.
There. Happy now?
I wasn't replying to you and I don't live here so I often miss a post or two. So pardon my not seeing a post about Gramm-Leach-Bliley etc...! Care to point it out? I'd certainly be happy to reply directly to any issues actually relating to those discussed in the OP!
Well maybe if you weren't so busy crowing about how conservatives are too afraid to debate you...you'd actually READ the posts where they do?
And you STILL haven't responded to my questions about the rest of the demands that the OWS protesters are making. Why is that? Oh, wait...I see how it works with you. You get to choose what is and isn't discussable and if you find a question "inconvenient" then you just ignore it and insist on discussing what you think is pertinent?
I guess a lot of people here just believe what the MSM and Right Wing E-media
tell them. This would be the only explanation for some of the posts I've seen.
So I thought I'd help! Here is a C&P from a great OWS site. It will give you
guys a better idea of why you should support us! Here ya go:
"1. We don't want to End Capitalism, We Want to End Corporatacracy.
First, let's make it clear, This is a political movement, not an economic
revolt. We want to end the control of our government by Multi-National
Corporations. This is Issue Number One for everyone I've spoken to in Occupy
Wall Street.
Not one Occupier I know of, wants to turn us into the former Soviet Union (although just like the TP, every movement has it's fringe and the MSM loves to find them). We
don't want to end the economic system which allows people to buy the goods of
their choice. But we do want to end a corrupt political system which allows
Multi-National Corporations to buy the politicians of their choice. So the
single most important theme is Taking control of our government away from
Corporations and putting it back into the hands of We the People.
2. We won't tolerate a government that rewards corporate incompetence, greed and
fraud. No More Bank Bailouts.
The banks bought our government and then, after they lined their pockets with
the wealth of our nation, they blackmailed the government into giving them even
MORE money "In order to keep the economy from collapsing". Right. Then, instead
of making or refinancing home loans, Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo and
others spent our money on business mergers & acquisitions to benefit the 1%. Oh,
and of course, they paid themselves million dollar bonuses with our money.
We want to set a deadline for payback of existing bailouts. Any company that has
not fully repaid all monies by the deadline, should be broken up so that they
are no longer "too big to fail".
3. We want the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed immediately.
For those of you unfamiliar with it: After the Great Depression, congress passed
the Glass-Steagal act to make sure that banks would never take stupid risks or
use corrupt practices to send the country into another Depression. Then 60 years
later, the banks and companies that bought and paid for Republican Senators Bill
Gramm, Jim Leach and Tom Bliley told them that Glass-Steagal was interfering
with their ability to swindle the American Public. Their masters told these
senators to pass a bill that would NOT ONLY allow them to gamble foolishly again
with American Tax-Payer money - they wanted complete control of our Financial
System by being able OWN both stock brokerages and Insurance Companies too.
Then, once their cohorts completed the creation of what's called a "FIRE
Economy" (an economy based on Finance, Insurance & Real Estate) in America, they
would control everything.
Of course the Senators bowed to their masters and Gramm-Leach-Bliley was passed
with a super-majority that was veto-proof. If it had not been passed, NOT ONE
BANK would have needed bailout money because they would have been prohibited
from investing in the Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities Market.
Some people say we should let "The Market" regulate itself. Are the Banksters
worthy of the trust that was given to them under this law? Here's an example:
Citibank is on trial right now.
While they were selling over $500 MILLION dollars worth of those
toxic mortgage securities to the 99% as a good investment, they were betting the
securities would fail by "Short-Selling" at the same time. In other words, while
they sold your parents these securities for their retirement, they made a bet
the securities would fail - and earned over $140M dollars by doing so. Citibank
is currently offering to pay back about half the money they defrauded out of
regular people as long as no one from the bank goes to jail or even loses their
job. Guess what? The government is going for it. Why? Because the 1% doesn't
have to pay for their crimes. We do. In this case, WE'RE paying their $285M fee
with the bailout money they were given. And people wonder why we're mad."
That's just a small part of the REAL message of OWS. it's a little bit different
than what the SpinDoctors of the MSM and Right Wing media talk about or allow
you to see, isn't it?
The Whole World is watching and listening to our message. Foreign stations give more accurate coverage than FOX - who still spews BS about wanting Socialism and anarchy.
Here is an example of the more accurate foreign coverage of our message:
Occupy Wall Street Exposes Enormous Corruption Between Government and Corporations - YouTube
"1. We don't want to End Capitalism, We Want to End Corporatacracy.
First, let's make it clear, This is a political movement, not an economic
revolt. We want to end the control of our government by Multi-National
Corporations. This is Issue Number One for everyone I've spoken to in Occupy
Wall Street.
2. We won't tolerate a government that rewards corporate incompetence, greed and
fraud. No More Bank Bailouts.
We want to set a deadline for payback of existing bailouts. Any company that has
not fully repaid all monies by the deadline, should be broken up so that they
are no longer "too big to fail".
3. We want the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed immediately.
