Foodstamps Are Good

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    I was just listened to an extremely idiotic argument about how food stamps are such a great asset to the economy.

    This Democrat spokesman was talking about all of the wonders of food stamps. How they put food in the mouths of the poor and all of the usual liberal rhetoric. The spokesperson that was in opposition started in on him saying that because of the increase of people applying and qualifying for food stamps it is a major drag on the states. She was trying to sell her case that the increase of food stamps is more bad then good. More people employed and being able to afford food without food stamps is more desirable.

    The Dem started saying "Oh, so you want to starve people?????"

    I kid you not....that was his response!!

    This is a microcosm of how a liberal or a progressive creates a wedge-issue. They propose policies that they and their opposition both know is unsustainable and know will cause a common-sense response and then they pull out the "you wanna starve the poor" accusation. The problem is, this has been working for Democrats for a long time. You'd think people would get wise to it. They used it on seniors when the GOP released their economic plan. "Those evil Republicans want to throw you and your wheel-chair over a cliff!!!"

    You have to be a morally corrupt individual to make this kind of issue part of your campaign. Anyone who supports such a candidate or political party is in all respects living in denial. You have to live in a vacuum to think this way in the first place. Saying with a straight face that wide spread use of food stamps is a good thing is a radical rationalization similar to Nancy Pelosi proudly declaring that unemployment is helping the economy.

    Lets put aside the loss of revenue to the states just for giving out food stamps to more and more people. Not only does the state have to reimburse stores for the lost sales, but also the state misses out on sales tax because no taxes are collected in the transactions. This shortfall has to be made up somewhere or the government will have to shrink or go broke.

    Do Democrats realize this? Sure they do. But it fits into their class-warfare act. This all benefits the poor and everyone else suffers because of it.

    Is this a good thing to them??? You be the judge.

    Seems to me the Dems have policies on issues that are in direct conflict with each other. People are starving....feed them. People are fat....starve them. It's like the Global Warming/Ozone Depletion deal they've used to jack up the price of energy and cost billions to businesses and consumers in favor of their Green energy regulations in the EPA. Too much ozone or not enough. They've got us coming and going. On one hand they're saying we're too fat, on the other they're saying people are starving. It doesn't matter what the issue is. They want to spend more to deal with it forgetting the fact that they caused the problem in the first place. What it amounts to is they've turned the federal government into a perversion of it's original self. A bloated and abusive entity that is an Albatross to the taxpayers of the country.

    I know this is a no-brainer.....but I see this repeated in several hot issues. In immigration reform, in Social Security reform, in health care reform, the list goes on and on. The left takes a populist position that they know is unsustainable and they roll with it. These days people are worried because they have been unemployed for a year or more so they tend to fall for the Democrat's argument. People have to be taken care of. Wouldn't it be better if they lived in a country where the government got out of the way so they could take care of themselves....if they so choose????

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    So, you are promoting the law of the jungle. THAT is not a civil society. Take a course in civics.

    Food stamps and unemployment will do little to create 'new' jobs, but the money that goes to families will go directly back into the economy, keep many homes from going into foreclosure and keep people from living in 2010 Hoovervilles.

    What right wing conservatives ALWAYS ignore is the human cost and capital. Their morally bankrupt punishments require some group of human beings to evaporate.

    During the Great Depression conservatives raised the same objections to F.D.R.’s programs. They said the economy must be left alone and it would correct itself in the long run. Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins shot back: “People don’t eat in the long run. They eat every day.”

    "Republicans care more about property, Democrats care more about people"
    Ted Sorensen - President Kennedy's Special Counsel & Adviser, and primary speechwriter
     
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    There is no such thing as "Food Stamps".
     
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    Do you have an alternative proposal to deal with 45,000,000 Americans who cannot afford to feed themselves and their families?

    I know, how about we give billionaires still more tax breaks?

    Think that will help?

    What's your plan?
     
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    Ask the Governors of Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and Texas.

    They have low unemployment. They seem to have answers for this.

    You've heard them before...but of course you don't believe them.

    The solution is stop being anti-business and you create jobs.

    Creating an environment in your state that is conducive to job creation in the private-sector is the key.

    It's pretty simple really.
     
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    Wow, playbook liberal response. Very well executed. Your masters will give you an A+. :clap2:
     
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    Democrats care about votes. Nothing more.
     
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    and the republicans follow the same action by approving SNAP and increasing heating and cooling aid
     
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    the problem with food stamps and welfare in general is that it becomes a way of life, not a helping hand in the short run.

    When I was in the service, we had this one Sergeant who had a huge wad of food stamps he used as currency. Now, since he had a job, this struck me as odd. He explained that he took money, and paid half face value for the stamps, while the people who had them would go off and buy drugs with the money. (This Sergeant later developed a substance abuse problem and was discharged.)

    The problem with entitlement programs is that we don't treat them as what they are- charity. We are helping you out now, but you are expected to try to improve your lot. We don't do that. We have a mentality that you are OWED food stamps. You are OWED welfare. You are OWED social security, even if you didn't pay all that much into it.

    "He suffers from the socialist disease in its worst form- the belief the world owes you a living" - Robert A. Heinlein.


    Caring about people is challenging them to be better than they are. You call this the law of the jungle, I call it making people better. It seems, though, that your party is intent on making as many people dependent on government as possible.
     
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    oh yes those evil democrats, when republicans try to get elected they don't care about votes, and when in power they reduce SNAP to zero.!? How laughable that your myopic tendencies blinds you from the truth of all, not just a select few.
     

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