Food shortages predicted in UK as new brexit measures introduced (or not)

[Tommy Tainant]

You are in luck, Tommy.

By the looks of you, I can imagine you would survive quite the famine.

I grow a bit myself but i end up giving most of it away.

 

[toomuchtime_]

This doesnt explain the shortages that we are told will happen in october when proper brexit checks will start.
We already have shortages and high prices. That is already factored in.
That is laid out in the article I linked to.

If the weather improves and energy prices stabilize, the shortages should decrease regardless of the border checks. If Labour stuck to the facts instead of trying to invent crises, they might do better at the polls.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yes, Trump has scant regard for treatys.
Brexit should not have been allowed under the GFA. The tories ignored that and here we are.
Its complicated for a conservative but not for a sentient adult.

There you go again, celebrating the UK's problems and hoping there won't be any solutions because that will be better for Labour.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

How many threads must you troll because i make you look like a fucking moron ?

You only ever make yourself look like a fucking moron, especially by posting the same fucking thread over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and 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We get the point. We got it dozens of such threads ago. Your country is an ungovernable shithole, that you think needs to be ruled over by a foreign power because you British are too damn stupid to govern your own country. And yet you feel qualified to continually pontificate to us Americans about how you think we should run our country, even though you don't know shit about our country, and have no standing whatsoever with regard to our country.

There is no need for, and no purpose to be served by, you posting dozens of new threads, to tell us what you already told us in dozens of extant threads.

 

[odanny]

How many threads must you troll because i make you look like a fucking moron ?

That's the easiest job on USMB.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Yes, Trump has scant regard for treatys [sic].
Brexit should not have been allowed under the GFA. The tories [sic] ignored that and here we are.
Its complicated for a conservative but not for a sentient adult.

What a horrible idea, that a country should be allowed to govern itself, rather than being ruled over by corrupt, unaccountable foreign powers.

This from a relic of the same degenerate tyranny that once tried to rule over America, and got its ass kicked very hard, twice, for trying to do so.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

How Many Americans Died in WW2? – Estimates​

Nobody has exact figures, but it is estimated that around the U.S. counted around 407,000 military deaths and around 12,000 civilian deaths (due to crimes of war and military activity such as bombings.) The total death count for all Americans amounted up to 420,000.

How Many Americans Died in WW2? Here Is A Breakdown - History

How Many Americans Died in WW2? World War II has been the bloodiest war in human history, killing over 60 million people. This means that around 3 percent

www.historyonthenet.com

And I believe about 1.5 million Americans were wounded, but what would the world have looked like if the US hadn't entered the war?

The UK would be ruled over a corrupt foreign power, exactly as Tainted Tommy clearly wishes were the case. And America would not have lost so many good men fighting for what turned out to be a worthless cause.

We still needed to take on Japan, in any event, as Japan had attacked us, and posed a threat to us.

But it is very tempting to think that we just should have stayed out of Europe, and left it to Stalin and Hitler to divide Europe up among themselves.

Do you suppose Tainted Tommy would be speaking German or Russian, at this point, if we had stayed out? Or perhaps his ancestors would have been wiped out, and we would have been spared from him having ever existed.

 

[Dekster]

Government urged to explain ‘shambolic’ plan for new Brexit border checks

Businesses say they have been left in the dark as Labour accuses ministers of ‘absolutely shambolic’ handling

www.independent.co.uk

Once again the myths of brexit crash when faced with reality.

Contrast the langage of the importers with the vapid politic talk of the government.

The changes due to come in October have been delayed since 2020. they will be costly and inflationary.

They havent even prepared the infrastructure needed for all the checks.

But the little weasel Sunak cant admit that so the current impasse is where its at. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on .

Another brexit dividend from the lying conservative party.

Should have planted a tomato plant or learned which parts of your local flora and fauna are edible while you had the chance. Too late now.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Should have planted a tomato plant or learned which parts of your local flora and fauna are edible while you had the chance. Too late now.

My tomatoes are doing fine at the moment. Before climate change they would oly grow under glass. Now they do well outdoors.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

If the weather improves and energy prices stabilize, the shortages should decrease regardless of the border checks. If Labour stuck to the facts instead of trying to invent crises, they might do better at the polls.

What about the border checks ? They will keep prices high. Extra costs for businesses.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That's the easiest job on USMB.

Its like treading on an ant.

 

[jwoodie]

How Many Americans Died in WW2? – Estimates​

Nobody has exact figures, but it is estimated that around the U.S. counted around 407,000 military deaths and around 12,000 civilian deaths (due to crimes of war and military activity such as bombings.) The total death count for all Americans amounted up to 420,000.

How Many Americans Died in WW2? Here Is A Breakdown - History

How Many Americans Died in WW2? World War II has been the bloodiest war in human history, killing over 60 million people. This means that around 3 percent

www.historyonthenet.com

And I believe about 1.5 million Americans were wounded, but what would the world have looked like if the US hadn't entered the war?

The Eighth Air Force lost more men than the entire Marine Corps in WW2.

 

[Deadstick]

Moving away from the overreach of EU rules for immigration makes sense. A free trade agreement with the US would be more beneficial for the UK than submitting to the EU's(Germany's) rules.

So where is it?

 

[Deadstick]

Moving away from the overreach of EU rules for immigration makes sense. A free trade agreement with the US would be more beneficial for the UK than submitting to the EU's(Germany's) rules.

What EU rules for immigration?

 

[toomuchtime_]

What about the border checks ? They will keep prices high. Extra costs for businesses.

They will not be major factors. The basic problem is bad weather and high energy costs due to the war. When these problems are solved, prices will be much lower and the border checks will not make much of a difference. Why are you not happy that Brexit caused wages to be higher?

 

[toomuchtime_]

So where is it?

Biden will not give it to a conservative UK government, so it will have to wait until he is gone.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What EU rules for immigration?

A few years ago, the EU allowed massive numbers of immigrants from the ME and North Africa to come to Europe and as a member of the EU, the UK was required to allow them to settle in the UK if they wanted too, and the fear was that so many new workers would drive wages down, and that issue led to Brexit. Non-EU states can adjust their immigration policies to suit their economic needs.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

They will not be major factors. The basic problem is bad weather and high energy costs due to the war. When these problems are solved, prices will be much lower and the border checks will not make much of a difference. Why are you not happy that Brexit caused wages to be higher?

You are making this up as you go along.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

A few years ago, the EU allowed massive numbers of immigrants from the ME and North Africa to come to Europe and as a member of the EU, the UK was required to allow them to settle in the UK if they wanted too, and the fear was that so many new workers would drive wages down, and that issue led to Brexit. Non-EU states can adjust their immigration policies to suit their economic needs.

What EU rule allowed that ?

 

[toomuchtime_]

You are making this up as you go along.

No, I'm paraphrasing the article from the Guardian I posted earlier. Brexit has had only a minor influence on food prices and has had noting to do with the shortages. Perhaps you should take another look at it.

Why are UK supermarkets facing fresh food shortages?

Three big retailers are placing limits on shoppers on some produce lines. What is behind the rationing?

www.theguardian.com