Food shortages predicted in UK as new brexit measures introduced (or not)

[Tommy Tainant]

Government urged to explain ‘shambolic’ plan for new Brexit border checks

Businesses say they have been left in the dark as Labour accuses ministers of ‘absolutely shambolic’ handling

www.independent.co.uk

Once again the myths of brexit crash when faced with reality.

Contrast the langage of the importers with the vapid politic talk of the government.

The changes due to come in October have been delayed since 2020. they will be costly and inflationary.

They havent even prepared the infrastructure needed for all the checks.

But the little weasel Sunak cant admit that so the current impasse is where its at. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on .

Another brexit dividend from the lying conservative party.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Government urged to explain ‘shambolic’ plan for new Brexit border checks

Businesses say they have been left in the dark as Labour accuses ministers of ‘absolutely shambolic’ handling

www.independent.co.uk

Once again the myths of brexit crash when faced with reality.

Contrast the langage of the importers with the vapid politic talk of the government.

The changes due to come in October have been delayed since 2020. they will be costly and inflationary.

They havent even prepared the infrastructure needed for all the checks.

But the little weasel Sunak cant admit that so the current impasse is where its at. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on .

Another brexit dividend from the lying conservative party.

Clear evidence the UK will be better off once it finalizes trade agreements with other non EU countries than it would be under the EU's rules.

 

[odanny]

I honestly cannot believe there would be any supporters of Brexit left, but I'm sure there are diehards who cling to their delusion.

 

[Deadstick]

Clear evidence the UK will be better off once it finalizes trade agreements with other non EU countries than it would be under the EU's rules.

Yes moving away from a market with half a billion people twenty miles away, that makes sense

 

[Deadstick]

I honestly cannot believe there would be any supporters of Brexit left, but I'm sure there are diehards who cling to their delusion.

Much of it is based on petty toxic Nationalism, i find many things wrong with the EU but i voted remain for economic reasons.

 

[Mac-7]

Government urged to explain ‘shambolic’ plan for new Brexit border checks

Businesses say they have been left in the dark as Labour accuses ministers of ‘absolutely shambolic’ handling

www.independent.co.uk

Once again the myths of brexit crash when faced with reality.

Contrast the langage of the importers with the vapid politic talk of the government.

The changes due to come in October have been delayed since 2020. they will be costly and inflationary.

They havent even prepared the infrastructure needed for all the checks.

But the little weasel Sunak cant admit that so the current impasse is where its at. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on .

Another brexit dividend from the lying conservative party.

As I understand it the EU wants to dictate local policy to members and is pissed that UK insists on self rule

So the EU is punishing the Brits

 

[iamwhatiseem]

More trolling.
The reasons for UK shortages is widely explained all over the net by legitimate sources.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yes moving away from a market with half a billion people twenty miles away, that makes sense

Moving away from the overreach of EU rules for immigration makes sense. A free trade agreement with the US would be more beneficial for the UK than submitting to the EU's(Germany's) rules.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Government urged to explain ‘shambolic’ plan for new Brexit border checks

Businesses say they have been left in the dark as Labour accuses ministers of ‘absolutely shambolic’ handling

www.independent.co.uk

Once again the myths of brexit crash when faced with reality.
Contrast the langage of the importers with the vapid politic talk of the government.
The changes due to come in October have been delayed since 2020. they will be costly and inflationary.
They havent even prepared the infrastructure needed for all the checks.
But the little weasel Sunak cant admit that so the current impasse is where its at. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on .
Another brexit dividend from the lying conservative party.

How many threads is this now, that you have started, on exactly the same topic; that topic being how your degenerate shithole of a country is incapable of governing itself, and needs to be ruled over by a foreign tyranny? I lost count around two dozen.

This is particularly amusing, in light of how entitled you always seem to feel to tell us Americans how to run our country, while you Brits cannot even run your own country.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

More trolling.
The reasons for UK shortages is widely explained all over the net by legitimate sources.
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Fantastic that you cant produce a link.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Moving away from the overreach of EU rules for immigration makes sense. A free trade agreement with the US would be more beneficial for the UK than submitting to the EU's(Germany's) rules.

Because immigration is going so well these days.
Do you follow british politics at all ?
The US wont sign any deal with the UK because they dont trust the UK to stick to existing deals. The Good Friday Agreement being one.
We have no credibility on the world stage.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Moving away from the overreach of EU rules for immigration makes sense. A free trade agreement with the US would be more beneficial for the UK than submitting to the EU's(Germany's) rules.

A few generations ago, tens of thousands of good American men fought and died to save the UK from being ruled by Germany.

What a horrendous waste that turned out to be.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

How many threads is this now, that you have started, on exactly the same topic; that topic being how your degenerate shithole of a country is incapable of governing itself, and needs to be ruled over by a foreign tyranny? I lost count around two dozen.

This is particularly amusing, in light of how entitled you always seem to feel to tell us Americans how to run our country, while you Brits cannot even run your own country.

How many threads must you troll because i make you look like a fucking moron ?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I honestly cannot believe there would be any supporters of Brexit left, but I'm sure there are diehards who cling to their delusion.

Yes, it will all be ok soon.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Fantastic that you cant produce a link.

What is behind the shortages?​

Certain fresh vegetables and fruits are hard to come by in the UK as a result of an unfortunate combination of poor weather reducing the harvest in Europe and north Africa, as well lower supplies from UK and Dutch producers hit by the jump in energy bills to heat glasshouses.

At this time of year, Britain relies on Spain, Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt for the bulk of salad imports. However, these crops have been affected by unusually cold weather last month, including intense night frosts, while tomato plants have also been damaged or killed by disease – in particular the tomato brown rugose virus.

Meanwhile, Britain and other northern European countries – particularly the Netherlands which is a big vegetable producer – have reduced how many crops they have planted over the winter, after the Ukraine war sent bills soaring for the energy required to light and heat greenhouses and the cost of the fertiliser used on plants.

Faced with higher costs for glasshouse crops, some retailers chose to rely more heavily this year on sourcing from Spain and north Africa, leaving them more vulnerable to the weather-triggered shortages.

Are things worse in the UK than the rest of Europe?​

It seems so. There are no reports of shortages in France and Germany and European shoppers have shared photos on social media of full supermarket shelves, in stark contrast to British supermarkets.

One issue is reduced output from British farms. The president of the National Farmers’ Union (NFU), Minette Batters, told the union’s annual conference on Tuesday that “domestic production of salad, including cucumbers and tomatoes, has fallen to its lowest level since records began in 1985”.

In the UK, a cold snap and frost before Christmas also damaged field crops including cauliflower, cabbage and carrots.

Batters has warned there might be further rationing of salad items to come, especially if growers’ energy bills remain high.

With many British tomato and salad growers having chosen to delaying planting in recent months because of economic uncertainty, UK production will not be able to pick up the slack for several weeks, and will probably begin later than in a normal year.

As a result, demand for Spanish and Moroccan produce to fill the gap has outstripped supply, and retailers cannot access as much food as they need, or face paying significantly higher prices for what is available.

So is Brexit to blame?​

Most farmers and suppliers have said they do not believe the UK’s exit from the EU is the main reason for the UK’s empty supermarket shelves. However, many acknowledge that Brexit – as well as the pandemic – have increased costs for growers, mostly as a result of having to pay higher wages to workers amid labour shortages.

Some importers argue the additional costs and bureaucracy created by Brexit have put the UK at the back of queue for supplies from European producers when crops are in short supply across the continent. It has also led to higher costs and paperwork, which can cause delays at the border – a particular issue with perishable produce.

Why are UK supermarkets facing fresh food shortages?

Three big retailers are placing limits on shoppers on some produce lines. What is behind the rationing?

www.theguardian.com

So the main culprits are bad weather and higher energy costs due to the war in Ukraine and Brexit is only a minor influence of prices and shortages, mainly because of highr wages, which you as a socialist applaud. There just doesn't seem to be much basis for all the ranting and raving Labour is doing about the shortages.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Because immigration is going so well these days.
Do you follow british politics at all ?
The US wont sign any deal with the UK because they dont trust the UK to stick to existing deals. The Good Friday Agreement being one.
We have no credibility on the world stage.

If Trump had won a second term, there would already be a free trade agreement with the US, but Biden will not help because conservatives are in power in the UK. The free trade agreement with the US will happen, but unfortunately not for a few years.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What is behind the shortages?​

Certain fresh vegetables and fruits are hard to come by in the UK as a result of an unfortunate combination of poor weather reducing the harvest in Europe and north Africa, as well lower supplies from UK and Dutch producers hit by the jump in energy bills to heat glasshouses.

At this time of year, Britain relies on Spain, Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt for the bulk of salad imports. However, these crops have been affected by unusually cold weather last month, including intense night frosts, while tomato plants have also been damaged or killed by disease – in particular the tomato brown rugose virus.

Meanwhile, Britain and other northern European countries – particularly the Netherlands which is a big vegetable producer – have reduced how many crops they have planted over the winter, after the Ukraine war sent bills soaring for the energy required to light and heat greenhouses and the cost of the fertiliser used on plants.

Faced with higher costs for glasshouse crops, some retailers chose to rely more heavily this year on sourcing from Spain and north Africa, leaving them more vulnerable to the weather-triggered shortages.

Are things worse in the UK than the rest of Europe?​

It seems so. There are no reports of shortages in France and Germany and European shoppers have shared photos on social media of full supermarket shelves, in stark contrast to British supermarkets.

One issue is reduced output from British farms. The president of the National Farmers’ Union (NFU), Minette Batters, told the union’s annual conference on Tuesday that “domestic production of salad, including cucumbers and tomatoes, has fallen to its lowest level since records began in 1985”.

In the UK, a cold snap and frost before Christmas also damaged field crops including cauliflower, cabbage and carrots.

Batters has warned there might be further rationing of salad items to come, especially if growers’ energy bills remain high.

With many British tomato and salad growers having chosen to delaying planting in recent months because of economic uncertainty, UK production will not be able to pick up the slack for several weeks, and will probably begin later than in a normal year.

As a result, demand for Spanish and Moroccan produce to fill the gap has outstripped supply, and retailers cannot access as much food as they need, or face paying significantly higher prices for what is available.

So is Brexit to blame?​

Most farmers and suppliers have said they do not believe the UK’s exit from the EU is the main reason for the UK’s empty supermarket shelves. However, many acknowledge that Brexit – as well as the pandemic – have increased costs for growers, mostly as a result of having to pay higher wages to workers amid labour shortages.

Some importers argue the additional costs and bureaucracy created by Brexit have put the UK at the back of queue for supplies from European producers when crops are in short supply across the continent. It has also led to higher costs and paperwork, which can cause delays at the border – a particular issue with perishable produce.

Why are UK supermarkets facing fresh food shortages?

Three big retailers are placing limits on shoppers on some produce lines. What is behind the rationing?

www.theguardian.com

So the main culprits are bad weather and higher energy costs due to the war in Ukraine and Brexit is only a minor influence of prices and shortages, mainly because of highr wages, which you as a socialist applaud. There just doesn't seem to be much basis for all the ranting and raving Labour is doing about the shortages.

This doesnt explain the shortages that we are told will happen in october when proper brexit checks will start.
We already have shortages and high prices. That is already factored in.
That is laid out in the article I linked to.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Government urged to explain ‘shambolic’ plan for new Brexit border checks

Businesses say they have been left in the dark as Labour accuses ministers of ‘absolutely shambolic’ handling

www.independent.co.uk

Once again the myths of brexit crash when faced with reality.

Contrast the langage of the importers with the vapid politic talk of the government.

The changes due to come in October have been delayed since 2020. they will be costly and inflationary.

They havent even prepared the infrastructure needed for all the checks.

But the little weasel Sunak cant admit that so the current impasse is where its at. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on .

Another brexit dividend from the lying conservative party.

You are in luck, Tommy.

By the looks of you, I can imagine you would survive quite the famine.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

If Trump had won a second term, there would already be a free trade agreement with the US, but Biden will not help because conservatives are in power in the UK. The free trade agreement with the US will happen, but unfortunately not for a few years.

Yes, Trump has scant regard for treatys.
Brexit should not have been allowed under the GFA. The tories ignored that and here we are.
Its complicated for a conservative but not for a sentient adult.

 

[toomuchtime_]

A few generations ago, tens of thousands of good American men fought and died to save the UK from being ruled by Germany.

What a horrendous waste that turned out to be.

How Many Americans Died in WW2? – Estimates​

Nobody has exact figures, but it is estimated that around the U.S. counted around 407,000 military deaths and around 12,000 civilian deaths (due to crimes of war and military activity such as bombings.) The total death count for all Americans amounted up to 420,000.

How Many Americans Died in WW2? Here Is A Breakdown - History

How Many Americans Died in WW2? World War II has been the bloodiest war in human history, killing over 60 million people. This means that around 3 percent

www.historyonthenet.com

And I believe about 1.5 million Americans were wounded, but what would the world have looked like if the US hadn't entered the war?