Flling apart Europe is a lot safer than Canada

[Toro]

Add all of the countries in Europe together to get an equal population to the USA and you will see that the homicide rate is higher than it is in the US. Or put another way, take all of the 50 States, and separate them. You will find that the overwhelming majority of those States are less violent than the countries in Europe. You will also find that the most violent States are those with a high illegal alien population, and in Democrat controlled cities. Chicago the city, has a higher homicide rate by itself than all of the Western States combined if You leave The coastal communities of California out. And they are Democrat controlled.

Adding populations together doesn't affect the rate.

Besides, when you add the populations of those European countries together, the rate for gun homicides in the US is more than 20x higher than in Europe at 0.17. The population is 100 million higher than in the US.

 

[Toro]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

 

[MaryL]

Some of us yanks are disgusted with this filthy gun culture. We want to end that. Repeal the second amendment. it is a relic from the 18 century. Our founding fathers never imagined machine guns or political terrorism.

 

[westwall]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

After subtracting the suicide rate from the figures what is the homicide rate?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

Suicide is not the same as violent firearm crimes against society.

Subtract the suicide rate from the equation and let discuss.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

Suicide is not the same as violent firearm crimes against society.

Subtract the suicide rate from the equation and let discuss.

Subtract the suicide rate in Europe as well. You are playing the same game as Westwall. Deduct Chicago and also crimes committed by immigrants. We could do the same in Europe. Doesnt alter the essential truth.
Europe is safer than Canada.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

Suicide is not the same as violent firearm crimes against society.

Subtract the suicide rate from the equation and let discuss.

Subtract the suicide rate in Europe as well. You are playing the same game as Westwall. Deduct Chicago and also crimes committed by immigrants. We could do the same in Europe. Doesnt alter the essential truth.
Europe is safer than Canada.

No, the reality is I did not say the same damn thing as Westwall and actually told you that you should subtract the suicide rate from the homicide rate.

The homicide rate across the board would lower.

Why is it that progressives want to run with numbers that are slanted?

America is the third largest populated country in the world and Canada population is smaller than California, so yes size of population should be taken into consideration.

Also the mix culture that is called America should be taken into consideration.

Then you should subtract the illegal gun owner from the legal gun owners and let discuss how many legal gun owner commit homicide against the public that is not suicide!?!

You wl discover many legal gun owners actually obey the law...

 

[Skull Pilot]

But but but...................Europe is falling apart according to you low information dickheads.......................

Well the crime and murder rates are rising in the UK and all those guns laws haven't stopped it

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The US government has tried to ban guns and confiscate guns before.
That is what caused the Wounded Knee Massacre.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

Suicide is not the same as violent firearm crimes against society.

Subtract the suicide rate from the equation and let discuss.

Subtract the suicide rate in Europe as well. You are playing the same game as Westwall. Deduct Chicago and also crimes committed by immigrants. We could do the same in Europe. Doesnt alter the essential truth.
Europe is safer than Canada.

No, the reality is I did not say the same damn thing as Westwall and actually told you that you should subtract the suicide rate from the homicide rate.

The homicide rate across the board would lower.

Why is it that progressives want to run with numbers that are slanted?

America is the third largest populated country in the world and Canada population is smaller than California, so yes size of population should be taken into consideration.

Also the mix culture that is called America should be taken into consideration.

Then you should subtract the illegal gun owner from the legal gun owners and let discuss how many legal gun owner commit homicide against the public that is not suicide!?!

You wl discover many legal gun owners actually obey the law...

You create a few straw men here. Firstly are you claiming that Europe does not have a cosmopolitan culture mix ? That is absurd. Everywhere on this board we are told that Europe is doomed because of its multi-multiculturalism. Either it is or it isnt.

And secondly I understand that a legal gun owner just shot up Vegas so I am not sure that is a relevant argument. .

The fact is that there is a huge difference in gun deaths in gun owning America and gun banning Europe.

If only we could work out why that is ?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

Suicide is not the same as violent firearm crimes against society.

Subtract the suicide rate from the equation and let discuss.

Subtract the suicide rate in Europe as well. You are playing the same game as Westwall. Deduct Chicago and also crimes committed by immigrants. We could do the same in Europe. Doesnt alter the essential truth.
Europe is safer than Canada.

No, the reality is I did not say the same damn thing as Westwall and actually told you that you should subtract the suicide rate from the homicide rate.

The homicide rate across the board would lower.

Why is it that progressives want to run with numbers that are slanted?

America is the third largest populated country in the world and Canada population is smaller than California, so yes size of population should be taken into consideration.

Also the mix culture that is called America should be taken into consideration.

Then you should subtract the illegal gun owner from the legal gun owners and let discuss how many legal gun owner commit homicide against the public that is not suicide!?!

You wl discover many legal gun owners actually obey the law...

The fact is that there is a huge difference in gun deaths in gun owning America and gun banning Europe.

If only we could work out why that is ?

You must have missed that Lithuania the #1 gun banners of Europe, have a higher murder rate than the U.S., and a massive suicide rate, that basically dwarfs the entire World.

What a success.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

Suicide is not the same as violent firearm crimes against society.

Subtract the suicide rate from the equation and let discuss.

Subtract the suicide rate in Europe as well. You are playing the same game as Westwall. Deduct Chicago and also crimes committed by immigrants. We could do the same in Europe. Doesnt alter the essential truth.
Europe is safer than Canada.

Blacks, and Hispanics are actually more violent than Muslims when it comes to routine street violence.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The U.S is in much worse shape than most of Europe.

What happened with Serbia losing Kosovo, will presumably happen to the U.S South-West pretty quickly too.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why don't you post the total homicide rates?

Total homicide rate is 0.99 in those European countries compared to 4.88 in the US.

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List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

Some U.S states like New Hampshire fall into this range.

 

[Correll]

Add all of the countries in Europe together to get an equal population to the USA and you will see that the homicide rate is higher than it is in the US. Or put another way, take all of the 50 States, and separate them. You will find that the overwhelming majority of those States are less violent than the countries in Europe. You will also find that the most violent States are those with a high illegal alien population, and in Democrat controlled cities. Chicago the city, has a higher homicide rate by itself than all of the Western States combined if You leave The coastal communities of California out. And they are Democrat controlled.

Adding populations together doesn't affect the rate.

Besides, when you add the populations of those European countries together, the rate for gun homicides in the US is more than 20x higher than in Europe at 0.17. The population is 100 million higher than in the US.

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His point is that it is not AMERICA that is violent.


It is a few democratic hellholes that are violent and drag our numbers down.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Scotland has the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe, and also tops the charts for murder rates of Western Europe.

How come?

 

[Correll]

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

Here are the states with the highest gun homicide rates.

1. Alaska
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. Mississippi
5. Wyoming
6. Montana
7. New Mexico
8. Missouri
9. Oklahoma
10. South Carolina

Illinois ranked 38th. California ranked 42nd.

In fact, it seems that most of the states ranked lowest are blue states.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

The overwhelming majority of those deaths are suicide. The murder rate for the western states (other than those with high illegal immigrant populations where the murder rate is sky high) is significantly lower than those for your blue states. Try comparing apples with apples.

It would seem that you want to manipulate the data till you get the outcome that suits your agenda. Thats deflection.
Europe is a lot safer than Canada. The figures bear that out and you have not attempted to produce evidence that refutes this..

Suicide is not the same as violent firearm crimes against society.

Subtract the suicide rate from the equation and let discuss.

Subtract the suicide rate in Europe as well. You are playing the same game as Westwall. Deduct Chicago and also crimes committed by immigrants. We could do the same in Europe. Doesnt alter the essential truth.
Europe is safer than Canada.

How do you know that it does not alter the outcome?

Have you seen that work done? I have not.


What if American, sans the democratic hellholes is about the same as Europe sans the immigrants?


What would that mean?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Jamaica has gun laws, ownership about as restrictive as the UK, and Jamaica's murder rates are off the charts.

How come?