Flight 93 Never Crashed In The Empty Field Outside Shanksville

[JW Frogen]

I can remain silent no more!

The truth is out there, and I will inhale it.

I was on flight 93 when I shot John Kennedy.

Jesus, that is a load off.

I also look at internet porn.

 

[Nosmo King]

I can remain silent no more!

The truth is out there, and I will inhale it.

I was on flight 93 when I shot John Kennedy.

Jesus, that is a load off.

I also look at internet porn.

Wow! Here I thought you were actually the Lindberg baby and the keeper of the last secrets of Fatima!

 

[candycorn]

So the only thing keeping you from believing that Flight 93 crashed in the way described in the accident report and the 9/11 Commission Report is that there was a DC9 that went down in the Everglades that was similar in terms of speed and the engines were photographed and in the case of Flight 93 they were not?


No. The continued forthcoming of many reported "witnesses" and otherwise respectable people making claims otherwise. I feel that it is not right to disregard them and deem them as all "crazy" or liars. The list is massive.


Additionally, it is the added stories of findings of cockpits and bodies intact...

the absolute contradictions to the stories and the comprehension of the utter contradictions of seeing what the media/gov showed that day compared to what people are claiming now.

You're not even trying to make sense any longer. First it was the debris field and now you're stating because the initial reports seem to be at odds with a calm, level-headed, even-handed, methodical investigation, you're smelling some sort of cover-up? Either you're 8 years old or have spent a large amount of time in a room with foam rubber tiles.

Well, enjoy your rapid trek toward obscurity and insanity. Say "hi" to curvelight for us in the losers lounge.

 

[candycorn]

sorry, the list is MINOR
and then the deviations are typical for eye witnesses

I disagree. The numbers are growing and there are even many ex-government/military people who are at least starting to question.

Regarding the entire scale, a few polls suggest that One Third of Americans believe there was some kind of previous knowledge or believe that it was an inside job altogether:
scrippsnews.com/911poll

As everybody knows, Two Thirds is a powerful number in this country. I'm sure it will get there in due time.

Well, your poll is 4 years old. There are more recent polls that show thatthere are about 6-7% of the american people that think 911 was an inside job, and about 35% that think the official report was manipulated to protect the government from accusations of mishandling it, and about the same that think the report was botched a to some degree.
But that is a long way from "One Third of Americans believe there was some kind of previous knowledge or believe that it was an inside job" to believeing there are issues in some form with the report or the way the report was handled, and believing that 911 was an inside job are not the same thing.
And, despite what you are claiming, the number of doubters is not growing, it is staying about the same, except for the group that thinks it was an inside job, that group is shrinking.
It is not likely that 2/3 of the American public will ever believ 911 was an inside job. There IS a likelihood that at some point in the future, there wil be another investigation.

I disagree. Its simply not an issue. Watch this November's elections and see if 9/11 conspiracies is ever brought up in any race.

I doubt that in 2012, 2014, or 2016 there will be a candidate running on the platform of re-opening the investigation when there wasn't one in 2002, 2004, 2006, or 2008.

The tea-party movement doesn't hold out much hope either if they are talking about stopping the frivilous spending; few items could be more frivilous than re-doing this investigation since there is overwhelming, independently verified, concrete proof as to who the perpetrators were. I could see them popping the hood open and re-examining air defeneses but that isn't the crazy-assed investigation these losers are pining for.

 

[slackjawed]

I disagree. The numbers are growing and there are even many ex-government/military people who are at least starting to question.

Regarding the entire scale, a few polls suggest that One Third of Americans believe there was some kind of previous knowledge or believe that it was an inside job altogether:
scrippsnews.com/911poll

As everybody knows, Two Thirds is a powerful number in this country. I'm sure it will get there in due time.

Well, your poll is 4 years old. There are more recent polls that show thatthere are about 6-7% of the american people that think 911 was an inside job, and about 35% that think the official report was manipulated to protect the government from accusations of mishandling it, and about the same that think the report was botched a to some degree.
But that is a long way from "One Third of Americans believe there was some kind of previous knowledge or believe that it was an inside job" to believeing there are issues in some form with the report or the way the report was handled, and believing that 911 was an inside job are not the same thing.
And, despite what you are claiming, the number of doubters is not growing, it is staying about the same, except for the group that thinks it was an inside job, that group is shrinking.
It is not likely that 2/3 of the American public will ever believ 911 was an inside job. There IS a likelihood that at some point in the future, there wil be another investigation.

I disagree. Its simply not an issue. Watch this November's elections and see if 9/11 conspiracies is ever brought up in any race.

I doubt that in 2012, 2014, or 2016 there will be a candidate running on the platform of re-opening the investigation when there wasn't one in 2002, 2004, 2006, or 2008.

The tea-party movement doesn't hold out much hope either if they are talking about stopping the frivilous spending; few items could be more frivilous than re-doing this investigation since there is overwhelming, independently verified, concrete proof as to who the perpetrators were. I could see them popping the hood open and re-examining air defeneses but that isn't the crazy-assed investigation these losers are pining for.

I think there will another investigation into the origional investigation.
Not because there is doubt about 19 terrorists ect, but because there are inconsistencies in the report.
I do not see any investigation happening for reasons other than to clear up the first one.
I would think that sometime in the future, congress, who cares nothing about what they spend, will authorize a new investigation.
I don't think the truthers will get the investigation they are "pining for" either, we know what happened.

 

[candycorn]

Well, your poll is 4 years old. There are more recent polls that show thatthere are about 6-7% of the american people that think 911 was an inside job, and about 35% that think the official report was manipulated to protect the government from accusations of mishandling it, and about the same that think the report was botched a to some degree.
But that is a long way from "One Third of Americans believe there was some kind of previous knowledge or believe that it was an inside job" to believeing there are issues in some form with the report or the way the report was handled, and believing that 911 was an inside job are not the same thing.
And, despite what you are claiming, the number of doubters is not growing, it is staying about the same, except for the group that thinks it was an inside job, that group is shrinking.
It is not likely that 2/3 of the American public will ever believ 911 was an inside job. There IS a likelihood that at some point in the future, there wil be another investigation.

I disagree. Its simply not an issue. Watch this November's elections and see if 9/11 conspiracies is ever brought up in any race.

I doubt that in 2012, 2014, or 2016 there will be a candidate running on the platform of re-opening the investigation when there wasn't one in 2002, 2004, 2006, or 2008.

The tea-party movement doesn't hold out much hope either if they are talking about stopping the frivilous spending; few items could be more frivilous than re-doing this investigation since there is overwhelming, independently verified, concrete proof as to who the perpetrators were. I could see them popping the hood open and re-examining air defeneses but that isn't the crazy-assed investigation these losers are pining for.

I think there will another investigation into the origional investigation.
Not because there is doubt about 19 terrorists ect, but because there are inconsistencies in the report.
I do not see any investigation happening for reasons other than to clear up the first one.
I would think that sometime in the future, congress, who cares nothing about what they spend, will authorize a new investigation.
I don't think the truthers will get the investigation they are "pining for" either, we know what happened.

Well, Congress certainly isn't gunshy about spending money...they are gunshy about having their party look incompetent or silly. The "we were in office for 90 days" will be echoed from the GOP casting some blame on the Dems.

Neither party wants to look like they dropped the ball.

 

[csbarry]

Pay no attention to this idiot Terral; he's Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's brother.

 

[DiveCon]

Well, your poll is 4 years old. There are more recent polls that show thatthere are about 6-7% of the american people that think 911 was an inside job, and about 35% that think the official report was manipulated to protect the government from accusations of mishandling it, and about the same that think the report was botched a to some degree.
But that is a long way from "One Third of Americans believe there was some kind of previous knowledge or believe that it was an inside job" to believeing there are issues in some form with the report or the way the report was handled, and believing that 911 was an inside job are not the same thing.
And, despite what you are claiming, the number of doubters is not growing, it is staying about the same, except for the group that thinks it was an inside job, that group is shrinking.
It is not likely that 2/3 of the American public will ever believ 911 was an inside job. There IS a likelihood that at some point in the future, there wil be another investigation.

I disagree. Its simply not an issue. Watch this November's elections and see if 9/11 conspiracies is ever brought up in any race.

I doubt that in 2012, 2014, or 2016 there will be a candidate running on the platform of re-opening the investigation when there wasn't one in 2002, 2004, 2006, or 2008.

The tea-party movement doesn't hold out much hope either if they are talking about stopping the frivilous spending; few items could be more frivilous than re-doing this investigation since there is overwhelming, independently verified, concrete proof as to who the perpetrators were. I could see them popping the hood open and re-examining air defeneses but that isn't the crazy-assed investigation these losers are pining for.

I think there will another investigation into the origional investigation.
Not because there is doubt about 19 terrorists ect, but because there are inconsistencies in the report.
I do not see any investigation happening for reasons other than to clear up the first one.
I would think that sometime in the future, congress, who cares nothing about what they spend, will authorize a new investigation.
I don't think the truthers will get the investigation they are "pining for" either, we know what happened.

and the troofer morons will reject any investigation anyway

 

[slackjawed]

I disagree. Its simply not an issue. Watch this November's elections and see if 9/11 conspiracies is ever brought up in any race.

I doubt that in 2012, 2014, or 2016 there will be a candidate running on the platform of re-opening the investigation when there wasn't one in 2002, 2004, 2006, or 2008.

The tea-party movement doesn't hold out much hope either if they are talking about stopping the frivilous spending; few items could be more frivilous than re-doing this investigation since there is overwhelming, independently verified, concrete proof as to who the perpetrators were. I could see them popping the hood open and re-examining air defeneses but that isn't the crazy-assed investigation these losers are pining for.

I think there will another investigation into the origional investigation.
Not because there is doubt about 19 terrorists ect, but because there are inconsistencies in the report.
I do not see any investigation happening for reasons other than to clear up the first one.
I would think that sometime in the future, congress, who cares nothing about what they spend, will authorize a new investigation.
I don't think the truthers will get the investigation they are "pining for" either, we know what happened.

and the troofer morons will reject any investigation anyway

Yeah, they wouldn't. I only think there will be another investigation at some point in the future because there are some inconsistencies in the reports the government issued. It will likely take years for it to happen, and then what i see happening is an investigation of the report, not the events.
What happened on 911 is settled. Only the 6%'ers think otherwise.
About 7% of the world's population has always suffered from mental illness too, coincidence? I think not.

 

[DiveCon]

I think there will another investigation into the origional investigation.
Not because there is doubt about 19 terrorists ect, but because there are inconsistencies in the report.
I do not see any investigation happening for reasons other than to clear up the first one.
I would think that sometime in the future, congress, who cares nothing about what they spend, will authorize a new investigation.
I don't think the truthers will get the investigation they are "pining for" either, we know what happened.

and the troofer morons will reject any investigation anyway

Yeah, they wouldn't. I only think there will be another investigation at some point in the future because there are some inconsistencies in the reports the government issued. It will likely take years for it to happen, and then what i see happening is an investigation of the report, not the events.
What happened on 911 is settled. Only the 6%'ers think otherwise.
About 7% of the world's population has always suffered from mental illness too, coincidence? I think not.

exactly

 

[Systain]

It baffles me that you can make claims that it's just a coincidence that the "crash" was in the very same location of the blemish in the 1994 photo. MSRMaps
That plane could have crashed anywhere…in the trees, the lake, someone's house, not even in Shanksville. The odds of it crashing in that same spot are so minutely thin. What is this probability I ask? Look at the surrounding area, there's maybe another small blemish northeast but that's it.
Have you lost all reasoning to allow any type of comprehension?

To me, it would be like haphazardly lobbing a baseball in the air and having it hit a penny on the ground many, many yards away. The linked similarities of the location of the 1994 trench and 9/11 site gives anyone in their right mind the principal of probable cause to at least question.

It saddens me that there are those of you that oppress the very nature of this questioning and further exacerbate this with personal attacks. Some of you are probably better suited to be deemed Fascists instead of US citizens.

As for you douches who constantly need to insult to make up for your pathetic shortcomings like Hillbilly’sme and DiveOnCock:
You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

DiveOnCock, I think you need to stuff algae in your ears, put on your stupid little snorkel, and sit at the bottom of a river for a while and contemplate your inabilities to contribute anything worthwhile.

 

[DiveCon]

It baffles me that you can make claims that it's just a coincidence that the "crash" was in the very same location of the blemish in the 1994 photo. MSRMaps
That plane could have crashed anywhere…in the trees, the lake, someone's house, not even in Shanksville. The odds of it crashing in that same spot are so minutely thin. What is this probability I ask? Look at the surrounding area, there's maybe another small blemish northeast but that's it.
Have you lost all reasoning to allow any type of comprehension?

To me, it would be like haphazardly lobbing a baseball in the air and having it hit a penny on the ground many, many yards away. The linked similarities of the location of the 1994 trench and 9/11 site gives anyone in their right mind the principal of probable cause to at least question.

It saddens me that there are those of you that oppress the very nature of this questioning and further exacerbate this with personal attacks. Some of you are probably better suited to be deemed Fascists instead of US citizens.

As for you douches who constantly need to insult to make up for your pathetic shortcomings like Hillbilly’sme and DiveOnCock:
You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

DiveOnCock, I think you need to stuff algae in your ears, put on your stupid little snorkel, and sit at the bottom of a river for a while and contemplate your inabilities to contribute anything worthwhile.

dipshit, you get it because you are fucking pathetic

btw, i'm positive a LOT of things baffle you

 

[candycorn]

It baffles me that you can make claims that it's just a coincidence that the "crash" was in the very same location of the blemish in the 1994 photo. MSRMaps
That plane could have crashed anywhere…in the trees, the lake, someone's house, not even in Shanksville. The odds of it crashing in that same spot are so minutely thin. What is this probability I ask? Look at the surrounding area, there's maybe another small blemish northeast but that's it.
Have you lost all reasoning to allow any type of comprehension?

To me, it would be like haphazardly lobbing a baseball in the air and having it hit a penny on the ground many, many yards away. The linked similarities of the location of the 1994 trench and 9/11 site gives anyone in their right mind the principal of probable cause to at least question.

It saddens me that there are those of you that oppress the very nature of this questioning and further exacerbate this with personal attacks. Some of you are probably better suited to be deemed Fascists instead of US citizens.

As for you douches who constantly need to insult to make up for your pathetic shortcomings like Hillbilly’sme and DiveOnCock:
You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

DiveOnCock, I think you need to stuff algae in your ears, put on your stupid little snorkel, and sit at the bottom of a river for a while and contemplate your inabilities to contribute anything worthwhile.

So, exactly what point of the 9/11 Commission Report are you questioning?

 

[Liability]

* * * *

You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

* * * *

I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.


Speaks for itself, Shitstain.

 

[Fizz]

It baffles me that you can make claims that it's just a coincidence that the "crash" was in the very same location of the blemish in the 1994 photo. MSRMaps
That plane could have crashed anywhere…in the trees, the lake, someone's house, not even in Shanksville. The odds of it crashing in that same spot are so minutely thin. What is this probability I ask? Look at the surrounding area, there's maybe another small blemish northeast but that's it.
Have you lost all reasoning to allow any type of comprehension?

To me, it would be like haphazardly lobbing a baseball in the air and having it hit a penny on the ground many, many yards away. The linked similarities of the location of the 1994 trench and 9/11 site gives anyone in their right mind the principal of probable cause to at least question.

It saddens me that there are those of you that oppress the very nature of this questioning and further exacerbate this with personal attacks. Some of you are probably better suited to be deemed Fascists instead of US citizens.

As for you douches who constantly need to insult to make up for your pathetic shortcomings like Hillbilly’sme and DiveOnCock:
You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

DiveOnCock, I think you need to stuff algae in your ears, put on your stupid little snorkel, and sit at the bottom of a river for a while and contemplate your inabilities to contribute anything worthwhile.

i dont understand why you are baffled. what is it you are having trouble with? you can pick any spot on earth and say "what are the chances of flight 93 hitting here?" and still have the same problem. your baseball and penny analogy doesnt work unless the earth was covered in pennies. the chance of it hitting any single penny is extremely small but the ball is going to come down and it is going to hit a penny.

what are the chances of the plane hitting the high school Bush attended? the chance is really small.... but guess what..... it didnt happen. what are the chances of the plane hitting home plate in yankee stadium? infinitely small again but again it didnt happen.

the plane is going to come down someplace. the chances of the plane hitting the spot it actually did hit are still going to be infinitely small no matter where it hits. but it is going to hit someplace.

you are trying to draw a conclusion from the odds that just isnt there.

 

[DiveCon]

It baffles me that you can make claims that it's just a coincidence that the "crash" was in the very same location of the blemish in the 1994 photo. MSRMaps
That plane could have crashed anywhere…in the trees, the lake, someone's house, not even in Shanksville. The odds of it crashing in that same spot are so minutely thin. What is this probability I ask? Look at the surrounding area, there's maybe another small blemish northeast but that's it.
Have you lost all reasoning to allow any type of comprehension?

To me, it would be like haphazardly lobbing a baseball in the air and having it hit a penny on the ground many, many yards away. The linked similarities of the location of the 1994 trench and 9/11 site gives anyone in their right mind the principal of probable cause to at least question.

It saddens me that there are those of you that oppress the very nature of this questioning and further exacerbate this with personal attacks. Some of you are probably better suited to be deemed Fascists instead of US citizens.

As for you douches who constantly need to insult to make up for your pathetic shortcomings like Hillbilly’sme and DiveOnCock:
You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

DiveOnCock, I think you need to stuff algae in your ears, put on your stupid little snorkel, and sit at the bottom of a river for a while and contemplate your inabilities to contribute anything worthwhile.

i dont understand why you are baffled. what is it you are having trouble with? you can pick any spot on earth and say "what are the chances of flight 93 hitting here?" and still have the same problem. your baseball and penny analogy doesnt work unless the earth was covered in pennies. the chance of it hitting any single penny is extremely small but the ball is going to come down and it is going to hit a penny.

what are the chances of the plane hitting the high school Bush attended? the chance is really small.... but guess what..... it didnt happen. what are the chances of the plane hitting home plate in yankee stadium? infinitely small again but again it didnt happen.

the plane is going to come down someplace. the chances of the plane hitting the spot it actually did hit are still going to be infinitely small no matter where it hits. but it is going to hit someplace.

you are trying to draw a conclusion from the odds that just isnt there.

just more proof shitstain is a fucking moronic troofer

 

[eots]

It baffles me that you can make claims that it's just a coincidence that the "crash" was in the very same location of the blemish in the 1994 photo. MSRMaps
That plane could have crashed anywhere…in the trees, the lake, someone's house, not even in Shanksville. The odds of it crashing in that same spot are so minutely thin. What is this probability I ask? Look at the surrounding area, there's maybe another small blemish northeast but that's it.
Have you lost all reasoning to allow any type of comprehension?

To me, it would be like haphazardly lobbing a baseball in the air and having it hit a penny on the ground many, many yards away. The linked similarities of the location of the 1994 trench and 9/11 site gives anyone in their right mind the principal of probable cause to at least question.

It saddens me that there are those of you that oppress the very nature of this questioning and further exacerbate this with personal attacks. Some of you are probably better suited to be deemed Fascists instead of US citizens.

As for you douches who constantly need to insult to make up for your pathetic shortcomings like Hillbilly’sme and DiveOnCock:
You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

DiveOnCock, I think you need to stuff algae in your ears, put on your stupid little snorkel, and sit at the bottom of a river for a while and contemplate your inabilities to contribute anything worthwhile.

i dont understand why you are baffled. what is it you are having trouble with? you can pick any spot on earth and say "what are the chances of flight 93 hitting here?" and still have the same problem. your baseball and penny analogy doesnt work unless the earth was covered in pennies. the chance of it hitting any single penny is extremely small but the ball is going to come down and it is going to hit a penny.

what are the chances of the plane hitting the high school Bush attended? the chance is really small.... but guess what..... it didnt happen. what are the chances of the plane hitting home plate in yankee stadium? infinitely small again but again it didnt happen.

the plane is going to come down someplace. the chances of the plane hitting the spot it actually did hit are still going to be infinitely small no matter where it hits. but it is going to hit someplace.

you are trying to draw a conclusion from the odds that just isnt there.

just more proof shitstain is a fucking moronic troofer

more proof that divemoroncon is the lamest of all the debwunkers and essential has nothing to say but 5 word sentences of denial with out a glimmer of thought or creativity of any kind just an empty void of nothingness

 

[DiveCon]

i dont understand why you are baffled. what is it you are having trouble with? you can pick any spot on earth and say "what are the chances of flight 93 hitting here?" and still have the same problem. your baseball and penny analogy doesnt work unless the earth was covered in pennies. the chance of it hitting any single penny is extremely small but the ball is going to come down and it is going to hit a penny.

what are the chances of the plane hitting the high school Bush attended? the chance is really small.... but guess what..... it didnt happen. what are the chances of the plane hitting home plate in yankee stadium? infinitely small again but again it didnt happen.

the plane is going to come down someplace. the chances of the plane hitting the spot it actually did hit are still going to be infinitely small no matter where it hits. but it is going to hit someplace.

you are trying to draw a conclusion from the odds that just isnt there.

just more proof shitstain is a fucking moronic troofer

more proof that divemoroncon is the lamest of all the debwunkers and essential has nothing to say but 5 word sentences of denial with out a glimmer of thought or creativity of any kind just an empty void of nothingness

keep using that word, no one will think your any more of a dipshit



at least not any more than already DO

 

[Liability]

If you look up "debwunker" in a dictionary, sooner or later what you will find is:

debwunker: 1. this is not a word. It probably originates from the misuse of the word 'debunk.' Today, the use of the faux-word "debwunker" means only one thing: All 9/11 Troofers are stupid lying scumbags.

2. id-eots is a retard.​

 

[slackjawed]

It baffles me that you can make claims that it's just a coincidence that the "crash" was in the very same location of the blemish in the 1994 photo. MSRMaps
That plane could have crashed anywhere…in the trees, the lake, someone's house, not even in Shanksville. The odds of it crashing in that same spot are so minutely thin. What is this probability I ask? Look at the surrounding area, there's maybe another small blemish northeast but that's it.
Have you lost all reasoning to allow any type of comprehension?

To me, it would be like haphazardly lobbing a baseball in the air and having it hit a penny on the ground many, many yards away. The linked similarities of the location of the 1994 trench and 9/11 site gives anyone in their right mind the principal of probable cause to at least question.

It saddens me that there are those of you that oppress the very nature of this questioning and further exacerbate this with personal attacks. Some of you are probably better suited to be deemed Fascists instead of US citizens.

As for you douches who constantly need to insult to make up for your pathetic shortcomings like Hillbilly’sme and DiveOnCock:
You 2 jokers have absolutely zero merit. I’ve seen no evidence of brightness from neither of you.

DiveOnCock, I think you need to stuff algae in your ears, put on your stupid little snorkel, and sit at the bottom of a river for a while and contemplate your inabilities to contribute anything worthwhile.

Raising questions or spreading discontent? I ask because while you claim to be questioning, the arguments that you present seem to expose you as one who has made up their mind and are simply looking for a way to 'prove' what you already think.

There are legitimate reasons and methods to question the vents of 911, and the reports issued in response thereof. So far, we have seen no credible evidence from you. On the contrary, you have only presented links to support your seemingly preconceived notions. When given links from credible sources, so far you have either ignored them, or presented some objection to them, justified by only the words in your posts and no links.
Then there is the disturbing trend towards insults and name-calling........


Yep, one by one as the twoofers have proven themselves to be nothing more than treasonous scum, the rational people here have responded by treating them as such.

It does appear that your headed down that same road yourself little guy.