Fitting Obama's Legacy ACA Stays

[LoneLaugher]

We desperately need to get out of this binary, either/or way of looking at things. Life is complicated.
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I agree that would be nice, but the way it's been going, it's just getting worse with no end in sight.

Probably wind up having another civil war if it continues.

Nope. No civil war is in our future.

I can see why you gun hating city slickers would hope that.

You think I am a gun hater? You think I live in a big city?

Well if you're not, clear it up...

But the fact of the matter remains, the divide and amount of hate in this country now is far worse than before the first civil war. Many see the democrats at war right now, just fighting without shooting people, aside from the odd man out democrat out shooting up republicans at a ball game. So if things continue to go downhill and the divide gets even worse, which I think is only inevitable, yeah, then there's a real good chance another civil war, whether you want to admit or not.

Clear what up?

 

[Votto]

I agree, but president Trump has the majority of Americans support, but the swamp in Washington is in the toilet.

No. He doesn't. Why do you believe that?

Yes, he does, and for starters, he was elected president in a massive landslide, and he still packs them into his rallies by the thousands with standing room only.

See... I don't believe your BS polls... you know... like the ones that said Hitlery was going to win... FOR SURE.

You really believe he won in a massive landslide don't you? It's really something to witness.

The pills were fairly accurate.

No, Trump won by the skin of his teeth.

The interesting thing is witnessing Venezuala. Socialism has gutted the country as the people now live in utter squander. However, if you take a poll people are still in love with socialism.

You see the same thing happening in the US. As socialism increases, the standard of living decreases, however, more and more people tend to favor socialism anyway.

Perhaps it is because socialism takes over education and indoctrinates, or perhaps it has something to do with the horrible drug problem in the US. The bottom line is, as the destructive forces of socialism increases so does the brain rot.

Very odd.

You are gonna ride that horse for a long time ain't ya?

Venezuela. That's your argument?

Sorry, I guess I should ignore it.

My bad.

 

[007]

Not on obamacare.

He's been a never Trumper since the campaign, and now since he's dying of brain cancer, he doesn't give a flyin' crap who suffers from his actions so long as he can stick it to Trump before he dies.

Well, it would be understandable, given Trump has personally insulted him, his friends & colleagues, and his party on so many occasions.

If Trump thought he could do all that and everyone would still obediently fall in line, he was dreaming.
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I agree, but president Trump has the majority of Americans support, but the swamp in Washington is in the toilet.

No. He doesn't. Why do you believe that?

Yes, he does, and for starters, he was elected president in a massive landslide, and he still packs them into his rallies by the thousands with standing room only.

See... I don't believe your BS polls... you know... like the ones that said Hitlery was going to win... FOR SURE.

You really believe he won in a massive landslide don't you? It's really something to witness.

The polls were fairly accurate.

why wouldn't I believe it? It's the truth. We've all seen the map of how many counties in America president Trump won, and it's an impressive, overwhelming majority.

No, the polls were pure leftist lies and all wrong.

Now you're just spewing leftist hot air.

 

[Geaux4it]

LMAO- ACA is Obama's big achievement and look......... It's a failure

Oxymoron to say the least

It is true, everyone gets a trophy..... even when they fail...or in Obama's case, the Nobel Peace Prize

-Geaux

 

[007]

I agree that would be nice, but the way it's been going, it's just getting worse with no end in sight.

Probably wind up having another civil war if it continues.

Nope. No civil war is in our future.

I can see why you gun hating city slickers would hope that.

You think I am a gun hater? You think I live in a big city?

Well if you're not, clear it up...

But the fact of the matter remains, the divide and amount of hate in this country now is far worse than before the first civil war. Many see the democrats at war right now, just fighting without shooting people, aside from the odd man out democrat out shooting up republicans at a ball game. So if things continue to go downhill and the divide gets even worse, which I think is only inevitable, yeah, then there's a real good chance another civil war, whether you want to admit or not.

Clear what up?

Jesus Christ... you forget what the fuck you wrote? You can't reread what you wrote?

Maaaaaaan... how slow are you?

 

[LoneLaugher]

No. He doesn't. Why do you believe that?

Yes, he does, and for starters, he was elected president in a massive landslide, and he still packs them into his rallies by the thousands with standing room only.

See... I don't believe your BS polls... you know... like the ones that said Hitlery was going to win... FOR SURE.

You really believe he won in a massive landslide don't you? It's really something to witness.

The pills were fairly accurate.

No, Trump won by the skin of his teeth.

The interesting thing is witnessing Venezuala. Socialism has gutted the country as the people now live in utter squander. However, if you take a poll people are still in love with socialism.

You see the same thing happening in the US. As socialism increases, the standard of living decreases, however, more and more people tend to favor socialism anyway.

Perhaps it is because socialism takes over education and indoctrinates, or perhaps it has something to do with the horrible drug problem in the US. The bottom line is, as the destructive forces of socialism increases so does the brain rot.

Very odd.

You are gonna ride that horse for a long time ain't ya?

Venezuela. That's your argument?

Sorry, I guess I should ignore it.

My bad.

You don't nt have to ignore what's going in in Venezuela. But you also don't have to suggest, with zero evidence, that we are headed in that direction.

We aren't. You are coming off like a nut.

 

[Votto]

LMAO- ACA is Obama's big achievement and look......... It's a failure

Oxymoron to say the least

It is true, everyone gets a trophy..... or in Obama's case, the Nobel Peace Prize

-Geaux

The ink is not even dry on the legislation and the same voices that sold us the ACA are now telling us we need a single payer system.

LOL.

The way collectivists operate is this, they either take advantage of or create a crisis in order to gain the consent of the masses to embrace a change. After all, people just want to live their lives in peace and be left alone.

The ACA is just a creation of a crisis. Those that sold us this crisis are the ones who were elected because of the crisis of the economic crash after "W". So for the new crisis, they wanted to make life so miserable that people would be begging for a change, and the only one that will be offered will be the single payer system.

Make no mistake, we have no choice. They will impose a single payer system on us and you can either fight them in futility or drink the cool aid.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Nope. No civil war is in our future.

I can see why you gun hating city slickers would hope that.

You think I am a gun hater? You think I live in a big city?

Well if you're not, clear it up...

But the fact of the matter remains, the divide and amount of hate in this country now is far worse than before the first civil war. Many see the democrats at war right now, just fighting without shooting people, aside from the odd man out democrat out shooting up republicans at a ball game. So if things continue to go downhill and the divide gets even worse, which I think is only inevitable, yeah, then there's a real good chance another civil war, whether you want to admit or not.

Clear what up?

Jesus Christ... you forget what the fuck you wrote? You can't reread what you wrote?

Maaaaaaan... how slow are you?

Clear what up? Idiot.

That I'm not anti gun? OK. I own firearms and I have my CCP.

That I don't live in a big city? I live in a town of about 5000 people.

Speak in clear sentences.

 

[Geaux4it]

LMAO- ACA is Obama's big achievement and look......... It's a failure

Oxymoron to say the least

It is true, everyone gets a trophy..... or in Obama's case, the Nobel Peace Prize

-Geaux

The ink is not even dry on the legislation and the same voices that sold us the ACA are now telling us we need a single payer system.

LOL.

The way collectivists operate is this, they either take advantage of or create a crisis in order to gain the consent of the masses to embrace a change. After all, people just want to live their lives in peace and be left alone.

The ACA is just a creation of a crisis. They wanted to make life so miserable that people would be begging for a change, and the only one that will be offered will be the single payer system.

Indeed. I find it interesting that we have fought wars to prevent this type of government from forming here. Much like we defeated Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor now look, Oahu is little Tokyo anyway

-Geaux

 

[Votto]

Yes, he does, and for starters, he was elected president in a massive landslide, and he still packs them into his rallies by the thousands with standing room only.

See... I don't believe your BS polls... you know... like the ones that said Hitlery was going to win... FOR SURE.

You really believe he won in a massive landslide don't you? It's really something to witness.

The pills were fairly accurate.

No, Trump won by the skin of his teeth.

The interesting thing is witnessing Venezuala. Socialism has gutted the country as the people now live in utter squander. However, if you take a poll people are still in love with socialism.

You see the same thing happening in the US. As socialism increases, the standard of living decreases, however, more and more people tend to favor socialism anyway.

Perhaps it is because socialism takes over education and indoctrinates, or perhaps it has something to do with the horrible drug problem in the US. The bottom line is, as the destructive forces of socialism increases so does the brain rot.

Very odd.

You are gonna ride that horse for a long time ain't ya?

Venezuela. That's your argument?

Sorry, I guess I should ignore it.

My bad.

You don't nt have to ignore what's going in in Venezuela. But you also don't have to suggest, with zero evidence, that we are headed in that direction.

We aren't. You are coming off like a nut.

Evidence? How about the fact that the GOP ran on repealing Obamacare and then voted to repeal it under Obama knowing he would veto it.

However, they get into office and then refuse to repeal it again knowing Trump would sign it?

The GOP has run on lies and has no real viable alternative. The only alternative being presented is the single payer system.

What more evidence do you desire sir?

 

[Votto]

LMAO- ACA is Obama's big achievement and look......... It's a failure

Oxymoron to say the least

It is true, everyone gets a trophy..... or in Obama's case, the Nobel Peace Prize

-Geaux

The ink is not even dry on the legislation and the same voices that sold us the ACA are now telling us we need a single payer system.

LOL.

The way collectivists operate is this, they either take advantage of or create a crisis in order to gain the consent of the masses to embrace a change. After all, people just want to live their lives in peace and be left alone.

The ACA is just a creation of a crisis. They wanted to make life so miserable that people would be begging for a change, and the only one that will be offered will be the single payer system.

Indeed. I find it interesting that we have fought wars to prevent this type of government from forming here. Much like we defeated Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor now look, Oahu is little Tokyo anyway

-Geaux

President Wilson and President FDR turned the US into a collectivist nation. They did this in order to fight off the collectivist regimes around the world.

Why was this necessary? It was because collectivist nations are cash cows that can fund world conquering armies. This is why the US has been in a virtual state of war since WW2 around the world.

I guess the lesson is, be wary of becoming what you are fighting.

 

[LoneLaugher]

You really believe he won in a massive landslide don't you? It's really something to witness.

The pills were fairly accurate.

No, Trump won by the skin of his teeth.

The interesting thing is witnessing Venezuala. Socialism has gutted the country as the people now live in utter squander. However, if you take a poll people are still in love with socialism.

You see the same thing happening in the US. As socialism increases, the standard of living decreases, however, more and more people tend to favor socialism anyway.

Perhaps it is because socialism takes over education and indoctrinates, or perhaps it has something to do with the horrible drug problem in the US. The bottom line is, as the destructive forces of socialism increases so does the brain rot.

Very odd.

You are gonna ride that horse for a long time ain't ya?

Venezuela. That's your argument?

Sorry, I guess I should ignore it.

My bad.

You don't nt have to ignore what's going in in Venezuela. But you also don't have to suggest, with zero evidence, that we are headed in that direction.

We aren't. You are coming off like a nut.

Evidence? How about the fact that the GOP ran on repealing Obamacare and then voted to repeal it under Obama knowing he would veto it.

However, they get into office and then refuse to repeal it again knowing Trump would sign it?

The GOP has run on lies and has no real viable alternative. The only alternative being presented is the single payer system.

What more evidence do you desire sir?

That is your evidence that we are a socialist nation with no viable constitution and an oppressive regime as our form of governance?

Awesome.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Fuck. Votto is one of those people who thinks everyone else is a dupe whose blind to the overreach of the state.

What's your take on Sandy Hook and 9-11?

 

[Votto]

No, Trump won by the skin of his teeth.

The interesting thing is witnessing Venezuala. Socialism has gutted the country as the people now live in utter squander. However, if you take a poll people are still in love with socialism.

You see the same thing happening in the US. As socialism increases, the standard of living decreases, however, more and more people tend to favor socialism anyway.

Perhaps it is because socialism takes over education and indoctrinates, or perhaps it has something to do with the horrible drug problem in the US. The bottom line is, as the destructive forces of socialism increases so does the brain rot.

Very odd.

You are gonna ride that horse for a long time ain't ya?

Venezuela. That's your argument?

Sorry, I guess I should ignore it.

My bad.

You don't nt have to ignore what's going in in Venezuela. But you also don't have to suggest, with zero evidence, that we are headed in that direction.

We aren't. You are coming off like a nut.

Evidence? How about the fact that the GOP ran on repealing Obamacare and then voted to repeal it under Obama knowing he would veto it.

However, they get into office and then refuse to repeal it again knowing Trump would sign it?

The GOP has run on lies and has no real viable alternative. The only alternative being presented is the single payer system.

What more evidence do you desire sir?

That is your evidence that we are a socialist nation with no viable constitution and an oppressive regime as our form of governance?

Awesome.

Speaking of the Constitution, we were sold the notion that the ACA was Constitutional. In fact, we were laughed at suggesting it was not.

Then it goes to SCOTUS and low and behold it was not Constitutional. It took an activist Progressive judge who was sold to us as a "conservative" justice, to basically rewrite the law so that it was somewhat Constitutional


So you can take your Constitution and shove it. Either way It gets used as toilet paper anyway.

 

[Votto]

Fuck. Votto is one of those people who thinks everyone else is a dupe whose blind to the overreach of the state.

What's your take on Sandy Hook and 9-11?

Overreach by the state? That is just crazy talk. Since when has the state had any overreach?

Bwhahahaha!!!

 

[LoneLaugher]

You are gonna ride that horse for a long time ain't ya?

Venezuela. That's your argument?

Sorry, I guess I should ignore it.

My bad.

You don't nt have to ignore what's going in in Venezuela. But you also don't have to suggest, with zero evidence, that we are headed in that direction.

We aren't. You are coming off like a nut.

Evidence? How about the fact that the GOP ran on repealing Obamacare and then voted to repeal it under Obama knowing he would veto it.

However, they get into office and then refuse to repeal it again knowing Trump would sign it?

The GOP has run on lies and has no real viable alternative. The only alternative being presented is the single payer system.

What more evidence do you desire sir?

That is your evidence that we are a socialist nation with no viable constitution and an oppressive regime as our form of governance?

Awesome.

Speaking of the Constitution, we were sold the notion that the ACA was Constitutional. In fact, we were laughed at suggesting it was not.

Then it goes to SCOTUS and low and behold it was not Constitutional. It took an activist Progressive judge who was sold to us as a "conservative" justice, to basically rewrite the law so that it was somewhat Constitutional


So you can take your Constitution and shove it.

Man. You sure hate the conservative health care plan that Obama adopted.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Fuck. Votto is one of those people who thinks everyone else is a dupe whose blind to the overreach of the state.

What's your take on Sandy Hook and 9-11?

Overreach by the state? That is just crazy talk. Since when has the state had any overreach?

Bwhahahaha!!!

No reply on Sandy Hook? 9-11? How about Pizza Gate or Seth Rich?

How far gone are you?

 

[Votto]

Sorry, I guess I should ignore it.

My bad.

You don't nt have to ignore what's going in in Venezuela. But you also don't have to suggest, with zero evidence, that we are headed in that direction.

We aren't. You are coming off like a nut.

Evidence? How about the fact that the GOP ran on repealing Obamacare and then voted to repeal it under Obama knowing he would veto it.

However, they get into office and then refuse to repeal it again knowing Trump would sign it?

The GOP has run on lies and has no real viable alternative. The only alternative being presented is the single payer system.

What more evidence do you desire sir?

That is your evidence that we are a socialist nation with no viable constitution and an oppressive regime as our form of governance?

Awesome.

Speaking of the Constitution, we were sold the notion that the ACA was Constitutional. In fact, we were laughed at suggesting it was not.

Then it goes to SCOTUS and low and behold it was not Constitutional. It took an activist Progressive judge who was sold to us as a "conservative" justice, to basically rewrite the law so that it was somewhat Constitutional


So you can take your Constitution and shove it.

Man. You sure hate the conservative health care plan that Obama adopted.

Conservatives? You mean the GOP that disdains the Tea Party?

Sure, everyone hates it. You hate it and want a single payer system, I hate it, along with the rest of the country, because they have a pulse and at least half a brain.

So what?

 

[Votto]

Fuck. Votto is one of those people who thinks everyone else is a dupe whose blind to the overreach of the state.

What's your take on Sandy Hook and 9-11?

Overreach by the state? That is just crazy talk. Since when has the state had any overreach?

Bwhahahaha!!!

No reply on Sandy Hook? 9-11? How about Pizza Gate or Seth Rich?

How far gone are you?

Obviously you cannot stay on topic.

I can sympathize knowing you have virtually no possible substantive retort.

So bugger off.

 

[mudwhistle]

There isn't a better example of what happens to an important issue when it becomes politicized.

The answers are out there, but our "leaders" are more worried about re-election and remaining obedient to their ideology.

I think that its bigger than that. McCain is getting even with POTUS in spades. Collins? Enough said there.

It could be the best thing ever since sliced bread, but if Mr Trump looks good as a result, forget about it. The machine cannot afford to have Trump succeed at any cost.

-Geaux

Tough to figure out McCain's motivations on stuff. Everything is so polarized, any person who doesn't obediently fall in line is either brave & principled or shifty & suspect.
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McCain's motivations are wealth and the love of the media.

He has few principles and weak character traits. and in a nut-shell, his half-ass presidential campaign gave us 8 years of Obama.