First amendment should not protect hate speech.

[Mac1958]

Oh I'm sorry. You're a liberal. I didn't know I had to break it down.

I can say what I want.

So can you.

The original amendments state that.

They never say "you can say what you want as long as they dont hurt other people.

Dude you do know posting on this forum is the utmost expression of free speech right?

Try this in China. See where it gets you.

I see.

Perhaps you didn't read my post correctly. Or the one before it.

I'm a First Amendment purist.

Yikes. And you called me what, precisely?

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You are right. I didn't read your post correctly and I vented without thinking. I just get passionate about these things. People against free speech piss me off. You're not on of them. I'm sorry. Here's a thanks for you.

No problem. You should hear what my mother in law calls me.

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[TheDuke]

I see.

Perhaps you didn't read my post correctly. Or the one before it.

I'm a First Amendment purist.

Yikes. And you called me what, precisely?

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You are right. I didn't read your post correctly and I vented without thinking. I just get passionate about these things. People against free speech piss me off. You're not on of them. I'm sorry. Here's a thanks for you.

No problem. You should hear what my mother in law calls me.

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Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! I'm sure it's no worse than what mine calls me but I'm sure its on the same level.

 

[strollingbones]

now americans are against freedom of speech?

i will be damned...first people are calling for deportation of americans based on their religion and now free speech should be limited?

 

[California Girl]

Oh I'm sorry. You're a liberal. I didn't know I had to break it down.

I can say what I want.

So can you.

The original amendments state that.

They never say "you can say what you want as long as they dont hurt other people.

Dude you do know posting on this forum is the utmost expression of free speech right?

Try this in China. See where it gets you.

I see.

Perhaps you didn't read my post correctly. Or the one before it.

I'm a First Amendment purist.

Yikes. And you called me what, precisely?

.

You are right. I didn't read your post correctly and I vented without thinking. I just get passionate about these things. People against free speech piss me off. You're not on of them. I'm sorry. Here's a thanks for you.

Nicely done, newbie.

 

[California Girl]

now americans are against freedom of speech?

i will be damned...first people are calling for deportation of americans based on their religion and now free speech should be limited?

Sadly, free speech means we have to accept the right of fucking morons to say fucking moronic things... from both sides of the aisle, and from those who have yet to find the aisle. Such is life for America... ain't it great?

 

[Seawytch]

Actually, "hate speech" is exactly the kind of speech that must be protected by the 1st Amendment or it (the amendment, not the speech) is meaningless.

The 1st Amendment is fine the way it is. It already has "fire in a theater" provisions.

 

[Charles_Main]

FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD NOT PROTECT HATE SPEECH.

British law offered no protection to those who dissented against the government, so the king could have anyone arrested or imprisoned at his personal whim.
Recognizing this to be a form of tyranny, the framers added the First Amendment to the Constitution — not to allow one ranting group of citizens the right to harass a group of grieving citizens, but to protect the citizenry as a whole from abuses of power that tend to come from government.
The Huckabees of this country worship the constitution instead of their GOD and that is because GOD is who they want him to be depending on what they need at the moment. The Christian GOD say;
James 1;26.…If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
Matt 13;2.…It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Radical Islam has never spoke ill or made fun of Jesus. “Allah” was the original name of the God in the Christian bible according to Hebrew and Aramaic sources. Muhammad the prophet is the founder of the Islamic religion just as Joseph Smith a prophet the founder of the Mormon religion. Self righteous radical right would learn from Islam.
The sub-human’s video is “hate speech” and should not be protected by the First Amendment. Framers of the First Amendment did not intend for it to protect against bashing but to be protected from the Government. Threatening the president is not protected by the First Amendment.
Hate speech that is designed to incite violence or criminal actions against someone or a group because of their race, religion, or sexual identity, is not protected free speech and can result in legal action and civil action.

Threats to government officials is not protected free speech.

Inciting a riot such as yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected free speech.

Self righteous Americans are not so different from radical Muslims as we claim to be. We don’t get to tell other races and religions how to react with offended. How to practice their religion. To simple say to Muslims to just simple ignore the video just as we would if Jesus was defamed is talking out both side of our mouths. Why don’t see Muslims denouncing he violence reaction? Because if they spoke they would have their heads cut off. And we don’t see masses of Americans denouncing the video but masses protecting it as freedom of speech when it reality it is hate speech and it causes violence and death and should not be protected by the Constitution.

This county has a long history of offending and abusing others because of the color of their skin or how the practice their religion. In some places in the country use of the “N” word and foul language is illegal. I have seen someone get their ass kicked for use of he “N” word. People have been hung for exercising their freedom of speech that was not near hate speech. We are so full of it when we claim freedom of speech. When are we going to get it? 19 Muslims brought down the twin towers killing 3,000 Americans and we reacted by killing thousands of Muslims by avenging them. What happen to GOD saying; “Vengeance is mine, I repay evil” “Do into others as you would have then do into you“ “Repay evil or evil to no one?” I am appalled at the way we protect hate speech that incite violence and death and excuse it as freedom of speech. But that is what we do best in this so called civilized society.

We still have thousands of people in this country that will kill you because you are different and the they are called White Hate Groups. Not so long ago a 15 year old Black teen was hung and body mutilated because he was exercising his freedom of speech. Not hate speech. Mary Turner was hung, her baby cut from her body to fall to the ground and her body set on fire. In Texas a few years ago a Black man was dragged by a truck until he died because of the color of his skin. We are not so different than we claim to be from radical Muslims.

Who gets to decide what hate speech is sweet heart? The Founders knew why you had to protect all speech, clearly you don't. You get a very Rare Neg Rep for Advocating we give up our most precious Right to appease a bunch of Animals who would simply find another reason to hate us.

 

[SniperFire]

FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD NOT PROTECT HATE SPEECH.

British law offered no protection to those who dissented against the government, so the king could have anyone arrested or imprisoned at his personal whim.
Recognizing this to be a form of tyranny, the framers added the First Amendment to the Constitution — not to allow one ranting group of citizens the right to harass a group of grieving citizens, but to protect the citizenry as a whole from abuses of power that tend to come from government.
The Huckabees of this country worship the constitution instead of their GOD and that is because GOD is who they want him to be depending on what they need at the moment. The Christian GOD say;
James 1;26.…If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
Matt 13;2.…It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Radical Islam has never spoke ill or made fun of Jesus. “Allah” was the original name of the God in the Christian bible according to Hebrew and Aramaic sources. Muhammad the prophet is the founder of the Islamic religion just as Joseph Smith a prophet the founder of the Mormon religion. Self righteous radical right would learn from Islam.
The sub-human’s video is “hate speech” and should not be protected by the First Amendment. Framers of the First Amendment did not intend for it to protect against bashing but to be protected from the Government. Threatening the president is not protected by the First Amendment.
Hate speech that is designed to incite violence or criminal actions against someone or a group because of their race, religion, or sexual identity, is not protected free speech and can result in legal action and civil action.

Threats to government officials is not protected free speech.

Inciting a riot such as yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected free speech.

Self righteous Americans are not so different from radical Muslims as we claim to be. We don’t get to tell other races and religions how to react with offended. How to practice their religion. To simple say to Muslims to just simple ignore the video just as we would if Jesus was defamed is talking out both side of our mouths. Why don’t see Muslims denouncing he violence reaction? Because if they spoke they would have their heads cut off. And we don’t see masses of Americans denouncing the video but masses protecting it as freedom of speech when it reality it is hate speech and it causes violence and death and should not be protected by the Constitution.

This county has a long history of offending and abusing others because of the color of their skin or how the practice their religion. In some places in the country use of the “N” word and foul language is illegal. I have seen someone get their ass kicked for use of he “N” word. People have been hung for exercising their freedom of speech that was not near hate speech. We are so full of it when we claim freedom of speech. When are we going to get it? 19 Muslims brought down the twin towers killing 3,000 Americans and we reacted by killing thousands of Muslims by avenging them. What happen to GOD saying; “Vengeance is mine, I repay evil” “Do into others as you would have then do into you“ “Repay evil or evil to no one?” I am appalled at the way we protect hate speech that incite violence and death and excuse it as freedom of speech. But that is what we do best in this so called civilized society.

We still have thousands of people in this country that will kill you because you are different and the they are called White Hate Groups. Not so long ago a 15 year old Black teen was hung and body mutilated because he was exercising his freedom of speech. Not hate speech. Mary Turner was hung, her baby cut from her body to fall to the ground and her body set on fire. In Texas a few years ago a Black man was dragged by a truck until he died because of the color of his skin. We are not so different than we claim to be from radical Muslims.

Who gets to decide what hate speech is sweet heart? The Founders knew why you had to protect all speech, clearly you don't.

Thread killer.

 

[PredFan]

FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD NOT PROTECT HATE SPEECH.

British law offered no protection to those who dissented against the government, so the king could have anyone arrested or imprisoned at his personal whim.
Recognizing this to be a form of tyranny, the framers added the First Amendment to the Constitution — not to allow one ranting group of citizens the right to harass a group of grieving citizens, but to protect the citizenry as a whole from abuses of power that tend to come from government.
The Huckabees of this country worship the constitution instead of their GOD and that is because GOD is who they want him to be depending on what they need at the moment. The Christian GOD say;
James 1;26.…If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
Matt 13;2.…It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Radical Islam has never spoke ill or made fun of Jesus. “Allah” was the original name of the God in the Christian bible according to Hebrew and Aramaic sources. Muhammad the prophet is the founder of the Islamic religion just as Joseph Smith a prophet the founder of the Mormon religion. Self righteous radical right would learn from Islam.
The sub-human’s video is “hate speech” and should not be protected by the First Amendment. Framers of the First Amendment did not intend for it to protect against bashing but to be protected from the Government. Threatening the president is not protected by the First Amendment.
Hate speech that is designed to incite violence or criminal actions against someone or a group because of their race, religion, or sexual identity, is not protected free speech and can result in legal action and civil action.

Threats to government officials is not protected free speech.

Inciting a riot such as yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected free speech.

Self righteous Americans are not so different from radical Muslims as we claim to be. We don’t get to tell other races and religions how to react with offended. How to practice their religion. To simple say to Muslims to just simple ignore the video just as we would if Jesus was defamed is talking out both side of our mouths. Why don’t see Muslims denouncing he violence reaction? Because if they spoke they would have their heads cut off. And we don’t see masses of Americans denouncing the video but masses protecting it as freedom of speech when it reality it is hate speech and it causes violence and death and should not be protected by the Constitution.

This county has a long history of offending and abusing others because of the color of their skin or how the practice their religion. In some places in the country use of the “N” word and foul language is illegal. I have seen someone get their ass kicked for use of he “N” word. People have been hung for exercising their freedom of speech that was not near hate speech. We are so full of it when we claim freedom of speech. When are we going to get it? 19 Muslims brought down the twin towers killing 3,000 Americans and we reacted by killing thousands of Muslims by avenging them. What happen to GOD saying; “Vengeance is mine, I repay evil” “Do into others as you would have then do into you“ “Repay evil or evil to no one?” I am appalled at the way we protect hate speech that incite violence and death and excuse it as freedom of speech. But that is what we do best in this so called civilized society.

We still have thousands of people in this country that will kill you because you are different and the they are called White Hate Groups. Not so long ago a 15 year old Black teen was hung and body mutilated because he was exercising his freedom of speech. Not hate speech. Mary Turner was hung, her baby cut from her body to fall to the ground and her body set on fire. In Texas a few years ago a Black man was dragged by a truck until he died because of the color of his skin. We are not so different than we claim to be from radical Muslims.

Popular speech doesn't need protection moron.

 

[Sallow]

You sir, are a complete fucking moron.

Nuff Said...

My apologies for being a complete fucking moron, I'm doing the best with what I have.

Now, please explain. "Nuff said" doesn't quite cut it. Keep it simple for me, thanks.

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Oh I'm sorry. You're a liberal. I didn't know I had to break it down.

I can say what I want.

So can you.

The original amendments state that.

They never say "you can say what you want as long as they dont hurt other people.

Dude you do know posting on this forum is the utmost expression of free speech right?

Try this in China. See where it gets you.

And you're calling Mac a moron?

He agreed with you.

 

[PredFan]

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I want to know what a wacko is thinking.

I want to know who that wacko is.

I want to know where that wacko is.

I want to know who agrees with that wacko.

I want to be able to expose that wacko for who they are.

Without the First Amendment, I can do none of the above.

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You sir, are a complete fucking moron.

Nuff Said...

My apologies for being a complete fucking moron, I'm doing the best with what I have.

Now, please explain. "Nuff said" doesn't quite cut it. Keep it simple for me, thanks.

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That was one of the most subtile beat-downs I've ever witnessed. Kudos.

 

[PredFan]

now americans are against freedom of speech?

i will be damned...first people are calling for deportation of americans based on their religion and now free speech should be limited?

Not Americans, Liberals.

 

[zeke]

See if some rightwing whack job can explain this for me.

It seems to be ok to make a film that causes millions of Muslims to go apeshit, killing each other and killing our people and that is aok protected free speech.

But you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

Why is that?

Both exercises in free speech are designed to cause people to get hurt. But one is ok the other not.

Could it be because one "excercise" in free speech motivates? Muslims to show their worst behaviour, thereby fulfilling the opinion that most rethug Americans have that muslims are low life, camel humping goat herders.

 

[PredFan]

Actually, "hate speech" is exactly the kind of speech that must be protected by the 1st Amendment or it (the amendment, not the speech) is meaningless.

The 1st Amendment is fine the way it is. It already has "fire in a theater" provisions.

Agreed. Popular speech doesn't need protection.

 

[PredFan]

See if some rightwing whack job can explain this for me.

It seems to be ok to make a film that causes millions of Muslims to go apeshit, killing each other and killing our people and that is aok protected free speech.

But you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

Why is that?

Both exercises in free speech are designed to cause people to get hurt. But one is ok the other not.

Could it be because one "excercise" in free speech motivates? Muslims to show their worst behaviour, thereby fulfilling the opinion that most rethug Americans have that muslims are low life, camel humping goat herders.

Fail post.
The movie is just a movie. It doesn't excuse the actions of the muslinms. It isn't the fault of the movie or the filmmaker, it's the fault of the perps.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD NOT PROTECT HATE SPEECH.

British law offered no protection to those who dissented against the government, so the king could have anyone arrested or imprisoned at his personal whim.
Recognizing this to be a form of tyranny, the framers added the First Amendment to the Constitution — not to allow one ranting group of citizens the right to harass a group of grieving citizens, but to protect the citizenry as a whole from abuses of power that tend to come from government.
The Huckabees of this country worship the constitution instead of their GOD and that is because GOD is who they want him to be depending on what they need at the moment. The Christian GOD say;
James 1;26.…If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
Matt 13;2.…It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Radical Islam has never spoke ill or made fun of Jesus. “Allah” was the original name of the God in the Christian bible according to Hebrew and Aramaic sources. Muhammad the prophet is the founder of the Islamic religion just as Joseph Smith a prophet the founder of the Mormon religion. Self righteous radical right would learn from Islam.
The sub-human’s video is “hate speech” and should not be protected by the First Amendment. Framers of the First Amendment did not intend for it to protect against bashing but to be protected from the Government. Threatening the president is not protected by the First Amendment.
Hate speech that is designed to incite violence or criminal actions against someone or a group because of their race, religion, or sexual identity, is not protected free speech and can result in legal action and civil action.

Threats to government officials is not protected free speech.

Inciting a riot such as yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected free speech.

Self righteous Americans are not so different from radical Muslims as we claim to be. We don’t get to tell other races and religions how to react with offended. How to practice their religion. To simple say to Muslims to just simple ignore the video just as we would if Jesus was defamed is talking out both side of our mouths. Why don’t see Muslims denouncing he violence reaction? Because if they spoke they would have their heads cut off. And we don’t see masses of Americans denouncing the video but masses protecting it as freedom of speech when it reality it is hate speech and it causes violence and death and should not be protected by the Constitution.

This county has a long history of offending and abusing others because of the color of their skin or how the practice their religion. In some places in the country use of the “N” word and foul language is illegal. I have seen someone get their ass kicked for use of he “N” word. People have been hung for exercising their freedom of speech that was not near hate speech. We are so full of it when we claim freedom of speech. When are we going to get it? 19 Muslims brought down the twin towers killing 3,000 Americans and we reacted by killing thousands of Muslims by avenging them. What happen to GOD saying; “Vengeance is mine, I repay evil” “Do into others as you would have then do into you“ “Repay evil or evil to no one?” I am appalled at the way we protect hate speech that incite violence and death and excuse it as freedom of speech. But that is what we do best in this so called civilized society.

We still have thousands of people in this country that will kill you because you are different and the they are called White Hate Groups. Not so long ago a 15 year old Black teen was hung and body mutilated because he was exercising his freedom of speech. Not hate speech. Mary Turner was hung, her baby cut from her body to fall to the ground and her body set on fire. In Texas a few years ago a Black man was dragged by a truck until he died because of the color of his skin. We are not so different than we claim to be from radical Muslims.

Who is to say what is and isn't hate speech?

 

[Sallow]

now americans are against freedom of speech?

i will be damned...first people are calling for deportation of americans based on their religion and now free speech should be limited?

I find it interesting that the very same folks that so passionately protect the right of some idiot to denigrate the muslim religion get all nuts over flag burners and ows protesters..

 

[Freewill]

FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD NOT PROTECT HATE SPEECH.

British law offered no protection to those who dissented against the government, so the king could have anyone arrested or imprisoned at his personal whim.
Recognizing this to be a form of tyranny, the framers added the First Amendment to the Constitution — not to allow one ranting group of citizens the right to harass a group of grieving citizens, but to protect the citizenry as a whole from abuses of power that tend to come from government.
The Huckabees of this country worship the constitution instead of their GOD and that is because GOD is who they want him to be depending on what they need at the moment. The Christian GOD say;
James 1;26.…If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
Matt 13;2.…It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” Radical Islam has never spoke ill or made fun of Jesus. “Allah” was the original name of the God in the Christian bible according to Hebrew and Aramaic sources. Muhammad the prophet is the founder of the Islamic religion just as Joseph Smith a prophet the founder of the Mormon religion. Self righteous radical right would learn from Islam.
The sub-human’s video is “hate speech” and should not be protected by the First Amendment. Framers of the First Amendment did not intend for it to protect against bashing but to be protected from the Government. Threatening the president is not protected by the First Amendment.
Hate speech that is designed to incite violence or criminal actions against someone or a group because of their race, religion, or sexual identity, is not protected free speech and can result in legal action and civil action.

Threats to government officials is not protected free speech.

Inciting a riot such as yelling fire in a movie theater is not protected free speech.

Self righteous Americans are not so different from radical Muslims as we claim to be. We don’t get to tell other races and religions how to react with offended. How to practice their religion. To simple say to Muslims to just simple ignore the video just as we would if Jesus was defamed is talking out both side of our mouths. Why don’t see Muslims denouncing he violence reaction? Because if they spoke they would have their heads cut off. And we don’t see masses of Americans denouncing the video but masses protecting it as freedom of speech when it reality it is hate speech and it causes violence and death and should not be protected by the Constitution.

This county has a long history of offending and abusing others because of the color of their skin or how the practice their religion. In some places in the country use of the “N” word and foul language is illegal. I have seen someone get their ass kicked for use of he “N” word. People have been hung for exercising their freedom of speech that was not near hate speech. We are so full of it when we claim freedom of speech. When are we going to get it? 19 Muslims brought down the twin towers killing 3,000 Americans and we reacted by killing thousands of Muslims by avenging them. What happen to GOD saying; “Vengeance is mine, I repay evil” “Do into others as you would have then do into you“ “Repay evil or evil to no one?” I am appalled at the way we protect hate speech that incite violence and death and excuse it as freedom of speech. But that is what we do best in this so called civilized society.

We still have thousands of people in this country that will kill you because you are different and the they are called White Hate Groups. Not so long ago a 15 year old Black teen was hung and body mutilated because he was exercising his freedom of speech. Not hate speech. Mary Turner was hung, her baby cut from her body to fall to the ground and her body set on fire. In Texas a few years ago a Black man was dragged by a truck until he died because of the color of his skin. We are not so different than we claim to be from radical Muslims.

I consider most of your posts hate speech, you should be banned. And yes, it is I who gets to decide.

 

[Seawytch]

I've seen that Americans do just fine condemning hate speech without needing new laws.

 

[Sallow]

I've seen that Americans do just fine condemning hate speech without needing new laws.

One of the best beatdowns of the head of a foreign nation..ever..


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